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troyomac
It's too bad, one of the funniest actors around.

http://entertainment1.sympatico.msn.ca/Owe...ct=&abc=abc
El Guapo
wow I wouldn't have put money on that happening
Jadaki
He realized that after just being himself in movies and not actually playing roles wasn't going to pan out for much longer, why wait to become carrot top.
SuitedAces21
Negrodamus predicted this whole thing.
coesillian
what a doushe (is it politically correct to bash on suicidal people, i guess if they are celebrities they don't really count as people, they owe it to us to stay alive)

selfish jerk
davezz5
The plastic surgeon gave him the estimate for his nose job.
Jadaki
QUOTE (davezz5 @ Tuesday, August 28th, 2007, 3:00 PM) *
The plastic surgeon gave him the estimate for his nose job.


Oh...
DrawingDeadInDM
I don't know why people are making such a big deal of this..people get killed and raped everyday, not to mention we're in a war..
showstopper24
My sister likes to celebrity hunt when she is in LA. She goes to a restaurant called 'Il Sole' where a bunch of celebrities normally go for dinner. She saw Owen Wilson there once and she asked one of the waiters if he is nice. He told her that he is somewhat paranoid and he hates being asked for autographs. My sister wanted to ask him for one, but he seemed too interested in trying to impress a girl. Although I never would have thought that he would attempt suicide, he seems like the most likely to out of his group (Luke Wilson, Ben Stiller, Vince Vaughn, Will Ferrell...)
timwakefield
LOL at all the heartfelt replies. If he had been stabbed or died there would be an outpouring of support, but he's sick in the head and attempts suicide so he's "selfish?"

Remember the scene in Royal Tennenbaums where Luke Wilson slits his wrists? Slightly eerie.
Kuge
I always thought Luke Wilson would've been the one to attempt suicide first.

*Can't stand Luke Wilson, he isn't even a good actor IMO*
LongLiveYorke
QUOTE (DrawingDeadInDM @ Tuesday, August 28th, 2007, 4:40 PM) *
I don't know why people are making such a big deal of this..people get killed and raped everyday, not to mention we're in a war..


Because we have a lot more contact with Owen Wilson than most of those people, even if it's only through television and film. Boy, that one was obvious.

If someone's friend died and they were upset, would you ask them why they were making such a huge deal about it and that so many other people died on the same day? It's the same thing, just to a much smaller extent.

Best Friend > (more imporant to the general public than ) Owen Wilson > (more important than) random person we've never heard of

I'm not saying that one shouldn't feel equally sad for the death of all people, but clearly that's not how we as a species work.
troyomac
QUOTE (DrawingDeadInDM @ Tuesday, August 28th, 2007, 12:40 PM) *
I don't know why people are making such a big deal of this..people get killed and raped everyday, not to mention we're in a war..


What a weird reply, who was making a big deal?
digitalmonkey
I think Erik was being facetious as that comment seems to come up in a lot of these types of threads.

+1
Ron_Mexico
The Butterscotch Kid is still kicking.

Anyone know that story? Its a great story.
Sheiky
QUOTE (LongLiveYorke @ Tuesday, August 28th, 2007, 10:57 PM) *
Because we have a lot more contact with Owen Wilson than most of those people, even if it's only through television and film. Boy, that one was obvious.

If someone's friend died and they were upset, would you ask them why they were making such a huge deal about it and that so many other people died on the same day? It's the same thing, just to a much smaller extent.

Best Friend > (more imporant to the general public than ) Owen Wilson > (more important than) random person we've never heard of

I'm not saying that one shouldn't feel equally sad for the death of all people, but clearly that's not how we as a species work.


+1
grocery_mony
QUOTE (Ron_Mexico @ Tuesday, August 28th, 2007, 8:54 PM) *
The Butterscotch Kid is still kicking.

Anyone know that story? Its a great story.

Something to do with a rim job
Zilla
Suicide is a horrible thing, but from what is usually taught about suicide, the way in which he attempted it can just be looked as desperate desires for attention. I look at him as a weak person, for 2 things those being attempting suicide and failing at it. Most people who’ve ever sat through a basic college level psych course know, anyone who really wants to kill themselves go for the most efficient ways, i.e.: poisoning, explosion, electrocution, hanging, shooting, jumping, or the ever so popular suicide by cop. If you’re attempting suicide as a way to gain attention, then you usually go for the prescription pill overdose (which is usually a slower acting poisoning compared to true chemical poisonings) and/or cutting of the wrists.

But anyways, why should we as a society allow him the attention he wants, we should have let him pass on, and followed the old tradition of burying him at a crossroads, and explain how he had no self-respect for himself so he took the easy way out, and thus the living should be allowed to walk over him to show to him (if there is an immortal soul) the pain he must endure for an eternity. What about the fact that suffering is what defines us and how we react to it, why should we as a society burden ourselves with a potential time bomb that could produce more death than just a single death?


Also with him surviving, how can you ever trust him again with anything important, if you were a close friend or family? He's broke the ultimate trust, that someone will be there no matter what, baring outside uncontrollable influences. I may sound a little heartless, but in the last two weeks I’ve attended a few funerals for suicides, had a grandfather who killed himself (before I was born), and a brother who attempted to, whom I’ve never spoke to again since. I don’t believe in surrounding yourself with weak people, and I believe those who attempt suicide as some of the weakest people in the world, and why not allow evolutionists to be right and let the strong survive? I just don’t believe they deserve to live if they are weak enough to hurt all who truly love them. It all comes down to the classic evil of vanity/pride.

And remember those of us who live in Vegas are living in the Suicide Capital of America, and because of that, they’ve welded most hotel windows closed (3-25 jumpers a years, no hard evidence on it though, casinos thinks its bad PR). Or if you want to have real fun as a jumper go to San Fran, you got the Golden Gate Bridge, 1000+ have taken the plunge.


And if you need help in deciding the way to do it, remember the classic Maddox “How to kill yourself like a man” post @ http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c....u=manly_suicide
El Guapo
Dude who spray farted in your dinner?
IQCrash
QUOTE (Zilla @ Tuesday, August 28th, 2007, 11:02 PM) *
I'm a cunt.


FYP
DrawingDeadInDM
QUOTE (LongLiveYorke @ Tuesday, August 28th, 2007, 1:57 PM) *
Because we have a lot more contact with Owen Wilson than most of those people, even if it's only through television and film. Boy, that one was obvious.

If someone's friend died and they were upset, would you ask them why they were making such a huge deal about it and that so many other people died on the same day? It's the same thing, just to a much smaller extent.

Best Friend > (more imporant to the general public than ) Owen Wilson > (more important than) random person we've never heard of

I'm not saying that one shouldn't feel equally sad for the death of all people, but clearly that's not how we as a species work.



QUOTE (troyomac @ Tuesday, August 28th, 2007, 3:06 PM) *
What a weird reply, who was making a big deal?


Well..

QUOTE (digitalmonkey @ Tuesday, August 28th, 2007, 3:26 PM) *
I think Erik was being facetious as that comment seems to come up in a lot of these types of threads.

+1



Exactly.

As Per The Vick Threads: Any time a celebrity acts out, we're not allowed to discuss it because, well, obv much more serious things are happening minute by minute in this world of ours.
BigDMcGee
QUOTE (coesillian @ Tuesday, August 28th, 2007, 11:50 AM) *
what a doushe (is it politically correct to bash on suicidal people, i guess if they are celebrities they don't really count as people, they owe it to us to stay alive)

selfish jerk




um, you're the douche.. who are you to say how much pain someone is suicidal should have to live with, particularly someone you don't even know?

unless you were just joking, then I'm the douche.


I think calling a suicide selfish is redundant, of course it's selfish ( unless it's like a suicide bomber, or something), so what?
Dirtydutch
Some great quotes on suicide:

"Life's like a movie: it's you're half way through, and you hate every second of it, it's probably not going to get a whole lot better."

"Life's like animal porn: it's not for everybody."

"If suicide were really the 'coward's way out,' we wouldn't have to worry about overpopulation, because there aren't a lot of 'brave' people around."
BigDMcGee
QUOTE (Dirtydutch @ Wednesday, August 29th, 2007, 2:26 AM) *
Some great quotes on suicide:

"Life's like a movie: it's you're half way through, and you hate every second of it, it's probably not going to get a whole lot better."

"Life's like animal porn: it's not for everybody."

"If suicide were really the 'coward's way out,' we wouldn't have to worry about overpopulation, because there aren't a lot of 'brave' people around."




LOL
Dirtydutch
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Wednesday, August 29th, 2007, 2:31 AM) *
LOL

Those are all Doug Stanhope. Are you familiar with DS's wonder, D? Because I think he's up your alley, moreso than he is mine. And I can't really listen to other comedians, anymore.
BigDMcGee
QUOTE (Dirtydutch @ Wednesday, August 29th, 2007, 2:37 AM) *
Those are all Doug Stanhope. Are you familiar with DS's wonder, D? Because I think he's up your alley, moreso than he is mine. And I can't really listen to other comedians, anymore.



wasn't he that guy who went on the manshow after kimmel left? If so, then I'm just barely aware of who he is, if not, then.. I have no idea who he is.. but I like his views on suicide.
Dirtydutch
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Wednesday, August 29th, 2007, 2:42 AM) *
wasn't he that guy who went on the manshow after kimmel left? If so, then I'm just barely aware of who he is, if not, then.. I have no idea who he is.. but I like his views on suicide.


Yeah, that was him. He did mostly the sickest, best gross-out jokes I've ever heard, about ****ing tranny hookers and whatnot, and then did the Manshow for two years. That whole experience embittered him ("some religious fanatics and tribal people believe that a camera can steal year soul. I thought it was crazy until I did the Man Show") and turned him into (not to sound like a cliche) the next logical evolutionary step from Bill Hicks. He's crude, vicious, spiteful, nihilistic, and brilliant. Here are some links. There not the greatest, but you should get a feel for his general tone, anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t2mMMp7bjU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0qJcGhmvqc

It takes a little while to get into him, so if you don't hate him, surf around a bit and watch as many as you can.
coesillian
QUOTE (coesillian @ Tuesday, August 28th, 2007, 11:50 AM) *
what a doushe (is it politically correct to bash on suicidal people, i guess if they are celebrities they don't really count as people, they owe it to us to stay alive)

selfish jerk
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Wednesday, August 29th, 2007, 6:13 AM) *

um, you're the douche.. who are you to say how much pain someone is suicidal should have to live with, particularly someone you don't even know?

unless you were just joking, then I'm the douche.


I think calling a suicide selfish is redundant, of course it's selfish ( unless it's like a suicide bomber, or something), so what?


ya i don't use the sw nearly enough, but I thought "if they are celebrities they don't really count as people" made it obvious that I was kidding.

now go take a shower
ajs510
So what the hell? Now it's coming out that he's been a well known coke and heroin abuser for a long time now?

Wilson visited a St. Monica church in his neighborhood on August 23, out of either devotion or desperation. Three days later, actor Luke Wilson, 35, found his brother in his Santa Monica, California, home with his left wrist slashed, having ingested a quantity of pills.
While the news stunned Owen's fans, members of his and Hudson's inner circles were reportedly all too aware of his private struggles with depression and addiction to cocaine and heroin.
According to sources close to the actor, his downward spiral only worsened after his June split from Hudson, 28.
"We always thought he was just too fun-loving, but now it's obvious he was just dealing with way too much to handle," says a family friend.


Hopefully he'll get some help or something, guy's starting to sound like a sad John Belushi.
Zach6668
Depression is an awful, serious disease.





I <3 Owen Wilson, so I wish him all the best.
Jadaki
QUOTE (DrawingDeadInDM @ Tuesday, August 28th, 2007, 3:40 PM) *
I don't know why people are making such a big deal of this..people get killed and raped everyday, not to mention we're in a war..


He was probably involved in illegal gambling.
SBriand
QUOTE (Jadaki @ Wednesday, August 29th, 2007, 10:19 AM) *
He was probably involved in illegal gambling dog fighting.


FYP
LongLiveYorke
QUOTE (DrawingDeadInDM @ Wednesday, August 29th, 2007, 3:24 AM) *
As Per The Vick Threads: Any time a celebrity acts out, we're not allowed to discuss it because, well, obv much more serious things are happening minute by minute in this world of ours.



Damn. I'm usually good at understanding irony. Sorry, DDIDM.
LongLiveYorke
QUOTE (ajs510 @ Wednesday, August 29th, 2007, 9:48 AM) *
So what the hell? Now it's coming out that he's been a well known coke and heroin abuser for a long time now?



Nose was a dead giveaway.
Miguel McHarris
I don't know just where I'm going
But I'm gonna try for the kingdom, if I can
'Cause it makes me feel like I'm a man
When I put a spike into my vein
And I'll tell ya, things aren't quite the same
When I'm rushing on my run
And I feel just like Jesus' son
And I guess that I just don't know
And I guess that I just don't know

I have made the big decision
I'm gonna try to nullify my life
'Cause when the blood begins to flow
When it shoots up the dropper's neck
When I'm closing in on death
And you can't help me not, you guys
And all you sweet girls with all your sweet silly talk
You can all go take a walk
And I guess that I just don't know
And I guess that I just don't know

I wish that I was born a thousand years ago
I wish that I'd sail the darkened seas
On a great big clipper ship
Going from this land here to that
In a sailor's suit and cap
Away from the big city
Where a man can not be free
Of all of the evils of this town
And of himself, and those around
Oh, and I guess that I just don't know
Oh, and I guess that I just don't know

Heroin, be the death of me
Heroin, it's my wife and it's my life
Because a mainer to my vein
Leads to a center in my head
And then I'm better off than dead
Because when the smack begins to flow
I really don't care anymore
About all the Jim-Jim's in this town
And all the politicians makin' busy sounds
And everybody puttin' everybody else down
And all the dead bodies piled up in mounds

'Cause when the smack begins to flow
Then I really don't care anymore
Ah, when the heroin is in my blood
And that blood is in my head
Then thank God that I'm as good as dead
Then thank your God that I'm not aware
And thank God that I just don't care
And I guess I just don't know
And I guess I just don't know
Jennings7
It is widely known that almost everyone in the world has at one point thought about suicide. There is no black and white when it comes to this subject. Just give the man his privacy and let him try to get his life right in private. Isn't that what you would want if you were him?
troyomac
QUOTE (Jennings7 @ Wednesday, August 29th, 2007, 10:44 AM) *
It is widely known that almost everyone in the world has at one point thought about suicide. There is no black and white when it comes to this subject. Just give the man his privacy and let him try to get his life right in private. Isn't that what you would want if you were him?


You're right. How dare people talk about someone who has willingly put them selves in the public eye for many years. And Owen Wilson's probably been lurking this forum for a while now, so it'll suck when he reads this.
BigDMcGee
QUOTE (coesillian @ Wednesday, August 29th, 2007, 4:54 AM) *
ya i don't use the sw nearly enough, but I thought "if they are celebrities they don't really count as people" made it obvious that I was kidding.

now go take a shower


Looks like i'm the douche, then. In my defense, I was pretty delirious with needing to go to sleep, and I did hedge my bet by leaving the " i'm a douche" part in there..

It's just that the right to people to commit suicide is something I feel passionately about. Unless I'm lucky enough to die instantly, in like a car crash or a heart attack or in my sleep, I'm sure I'm going to commit suicide some day. I'm not going to bravely fight a losing battle with cancer for a year, watching my body slowly fade away and living in constant pain. I'm not going to get a false hip and a false knee and piss out of a bag, and wear a diper and live in a nursing home waiting to die. I'm just not. I hope my friends and family understand that I don't wish to live in pain and misery, and that being able to choose how I go out is a beatuiful thing, but if now * shrugs* It's my life, not there's, they don't get to decide for me.
Zilla
QUOTE
It is widely known that almost everyone in the world has at one point thought about suicide. There is no black and white when it comes to this subject. Just give the man his privacy and let him try to get his life right in private. Isn't that what you would want if you were him?
There's a huge difference between thinking and doing, doing shows the inability to deal with pain. I honestly wished he succeed because the burden he's now putting on his family is a lot harder to deal with than putting him in the ground. Just my take, I've seen what it has done to my folks when one of their children attempted to end his life, its ruin their marriage, and ruined the family, and I stop talking to him, I really feel his death would have solidified the family in an opposite direction than what his attempts did. Life is a gift it should be treated as one, and if you want to destroy it, then Man up and do it, but if you survive, all I'll do all I can into supporting you to do it again by forgetting who you are.

Another range of thoughts here

QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Wednesday, August 29th, 2007, 1:34 PM) *
Looks like i'm the douche, then. In my defense, I was pretty delirious with needing to go to sleep, and I did hedge my bet by leaving the " i'm a douche" part in there..

It's just that the right to people to commit suicide is something I feel passionately about. Unless I'm lucky enough to die instantly, in like a car crash or a heart attack or in my sleep, I'm sure I'm going to commit suicide some day. I'm not going to bravely fight a losing battle with cancer for a year, watching my body slowly fade away and living in constant pain. I'm not going to get a false hip and a false knee and piss out of a bag, and wear a diper and live in a nursing home waiting to die. I'm just not. I hope my friends and family understand that I don't wish to live in pain and misery, and that being able to choose how I go out is a beatuiful thing, but if now * shrugs* It's my life, not there's, they don't get to decide for me.


I think your way of thinking is the easy way out... I think what best defines us as a person is how we handle our pain. I would rather be known as someone who took the long hard fight to death and died with dignity and respect for my creator. Yes I'm getting into religion on that one, but I believe the good and the bad we deal with in life are equal gifts that we as humans must endure to really understand why we're here, why be selfish and end it without a fight? For those who don't believe in some final destination after death, why not be remembered for your personal courage to stand up and fight, instead of being remembered as the guy who gave up?
Loismustdie
QUOTE (Zilla @ Wednesday, August 29th, 2007, 3:31 PM) *
There's a huge difference between thinking and doing, doing shows the inability to deal with pain. I honestly wished he succeed because the burden he's now putting on his family is a lot harder to deal with than putting him in the ground. Just my take, I've seen what it has done to my folks when one of their children attempted to end his life, its ruin their marriage, and ruined the family, and I stop talking to him, I really feel his death would have solidified the family in an opposite direction than what his attempts did. Life is a gift it should be treated as one, and if you want to destroy it, then Man up and do it, but if you survive, all I'll do all I can into supporting you to do it again by forgetting who you are.

Another range of thoughts here
I think your way of thinking is the easy way out... I think what best defines us as a person is how we handle our pain. I would rather be known as someone who took the long hard fight to death and died with dignity and respect for my creator. Yes I'm getting into religion on that one, but I believe the good and the bad we deal with in life are equal gifts that we as humans must endure to really understand why we're here, why be selfish and end it without a fight? For those who don't believe in some final destination after death, why not be remembered for your personal courage to stand up and fight, instead of being remembered as the guy who gave up?




Try getting a fast food nation to get that one, although I see where Big D is coming from.

Guarantee the people that loved someone who commited suicide generally don't go,"****, yeah, good choice. Long time coming. Now we can go about our business."
Ron_Mexico
QUOTE (grocery_mony @ Wednesday, August 29th, 2007, 12:51 AM) *
Something to do with a rim job

yeah, he's a chronic butt licker.
Zilla
QUOTE (Loismustdie @ Wednesday, August 29th, 2007, 5:06 PM) *
Try getting a fast food nation to get that one, although I see where Big D is coming from.

Guarantee the people that loved someone who commited suicide generally don't go,"****, yeah, good choice. Long time coming. Now we can go about our business."


What I'm trying to say is now the family has more pressures of having to help the "victim" go on about his life, and that will ruin, destroy families, unlike in death the family will have a grieving process and that is less time consuming than trying to fix someone. Yes its a hard thing to say, but sometimes its better to sacrifice 1 for the good of the many. That person death will force everyone to pay a heavy price, but that price allows us to celebrate what life is, and how we should treasure the gift that was given to us. Also I believe the person whose attempted suicide is a rotten piece of bread, which has already spread some mold to the other breads, but not enough to destroy the loaf before complete consumption, but allowed to stay around the remaining loaf it'll infect and destroy it quickly.
BigDMcGee
QUOTE (Zilla @ Wednesday, August 29th, 2007, 2:31 PM) *
For those who don't believe in some final destination after death, why not be remembered for your personal courage to stand up and fight, instead of being remembered as the guy who gave up?


Why the **** would i care how I'm remembered at all if I'm dead and there's no final destination? I'm sorry, once I'm dead, how I'm remembered means fck all to me. Putting up a "brave and honorable" fight is a bunch of garbage.. It's only benefit is for the inspiration of others, it's of no comfort to me as my intestines rot a foot at a time. Fck that, find some other hero/sucker willing to live his last days/months/years in excruciating pain. Easy way out ftw.
timwakefield
QUOTE (Dirtydutch @ Wednesday, August 29th, 2007, 2:26 AM) *
Some great quotes on suicide:

"Life's like a movie: it's you're half way through, and you hate every second of it, it's probably not going to get a whole lot better."

"Life's like animal porn: it's not for everybody."

"If suicide were really the 'coward's way out,' we wouldn't have to worry about overpopulation, because there aren't a lot of 'brave' people around."


Woody Allen: "I don't know from suicide, y'know. Where I grew up in Brooklyn we were too unhappy to commit suicide."
fighter
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Thursday, August 30th, 2007, 4:19 PM) *
Why the **** would i care how I'm remembered at all if I'm dead and there's no final destination? I'm sorry, once I'm dead, how I'm remembered means fck all to me. Putting up a "brave and honorable" fight is a bunch of garbage.. It's only benefit is for the inspiration of others, it's of no comfort to me as my intestines rot a foot at a time. Fck that, find some other hero/sucker willing to live his last days/months/years in excruciating pain. Easy way out ftw.


I understand all what you are saying but to give up on the only thing you have.

I believe in euthanasia but your giving up when times get tough is sad.
Ron_Mexico
QUOTE (fighter @ Thursday, August 30th, 2007, 7:41 AM) *
I believe in euthanasia but your giving up when times get tough is sad.

what do young chinese people have to do with Owen Wilson?
Dirtydutch
QUOTE (Ron_Mexico @ Thursday, August 30th, 2007, 3:47 AM) *
what do young chinese people have to do with Owen Wilson?



Man, that pun works extra awesome in writing.
BigDMcGee
QUOTE (fighter @ Thursday, August 30th, 2007, 3:41 AM) *
I understand all what you are saying but to give up on the only thing you have.

I believe in euthanasia but your giving up when times get tough is sad.



I don't think it's sad at all. I think there's something really empowering about it, actually.
LongLiveYorke
QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Thursday, August 30th, 2007, 3:16 PM) *
I don't think it's sad at all. I think there's something really empowering about it, actually.



I agree with what you're saying, but if you don't believe in an afterlife, wouldn't any sort of life be better than an eternity of nothingness? I mean, there's going to be plenty of time for nothingness. I figure as long as I'm not in constant unbearable pain (ie throwing up all day long because there's so much pain) and as long as I can lie in bed, even hooked up to a hundred machines, and watch Seinfeld reruns, then life's worth living. Obviously it's a personal choice, and one that I believe people should be able to make. I was just curious as to your philosophy on the subject.
Dirtydutch
QUOTE (LongLiveYorke @ Thursday, August 30th, 2007, 1:32 PM) *
I agree with what you're saying, but if you don't believe in an afterlife, wouldn't any sort of life be better than an eternity of nothingness? I mean, there's going to be plenty of time for nothingness. I figure as long as I'm not in constant unbearable pain (ie throwing up all day long because there's so much pain) and as long as I can lie in bed, even hooked up to a hundred machines, and watch Seinfeld reruns, then life's worth living. Obviously it's a personal choice, and one that I believe people should be able to make. I was just curious as to your philosophy on the subject.


I can see how some people are so miserable that no life is better than their life.
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