I am just trying to bring up a subject that I think might go either way. I think a difficult choice has to be made when holding 246xx and your facing the decision
whether to open, limp, call a raise, or fold to a raise. My play I generally fold these types of hands in early position because just calling is stupid because you get
raised to much and then your in a pot with a worse drawing hand. You're probably already holding a worse draw(not to mention you might not have position) than
them so I think calling is too great of a risk with the possibility of being raised. This is the same reason why I don't raise this hand from early position, however, I feel
that if I had to play the hand(such as in a TD tournament when the blinds were low) a raise would be best because it would eliminate any players who would limp in
with something stupid like 874 that they would fold to a raise. From late position I play this hand much differently if it is unopened I will open with this hand and I will
even call a raise sometimes with 246xx because of the position advantage I will have. I am just curious to see how other people play these types of hands and their
thought process for playing them that way. I think we can become better players by posting this way so if you come across another situation or don't agree with me
at all let me know.
IWU4U
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you might want to consider laying off the enter button
you're right about raising/folding this hand in ep, and it should apply to almost any position unless there are already a sea of limpers in there...if someone raises it and you have position or are in the BB it is an easy call...basically the only spot where i would think about throwing this hand away is probably in the SB after a tight player raises it, otherwise it is a very playable hand
you're right about raising/folding this hand in ep, and it should apply to almost any position unless there are already a sea of limpers in there...if someone raises it and you have position or are in the BB it is an easy call...basically the only spot where i would think about throwing this hand away is probably in the SB after a tight player raises it, otherwise it is a very playable hand
OK for when checky gets here:
If you have some time, can you also talk about playing 863xx, especially from EP and the blinds? Limped to us, facing a raise, and unopened (EP). I always find this tricky.
If you have some time, can you also talk about playing 863xx, especially from EP and the blinds? Limped to us, facing a raise, and unopened (EP). I always find this tricky.
QUOTE (Iwu4u @ Monday, August 27th, 2007, 4:12 PM) 
I am just trying to bring up a subject that I think might go either way. I think a difficult choice has to be made when holding 246xx and your facing the decision
whether to open, limp, call a raise, or fold to a raise. My play I generally fold these types of hands in early position because just calling is stupid because you get
raised to much and then your in a pot with a worse drawing hand. You're probably already holding a worse draw(not to mention you might not have position) than
them so I think calling is too great of a risk with the possibility of being raised. This is the same reason why I don't raise this hand from early position, however, I feel
that if I had to play the hand(such as in a TD tournament when the blinds were low) a raise would be best because it would eliminate any players who would limp in
with something stupid like 874 that they would fold to a raise. From late position I play this hand much differently if it is unopened I will open with this hand and I will
even call a raise sometimes with 246xx because of the position advantage I will have. I am just curious to see how other people play these types of hands and their
thought process for playing them that way. I think we can become better players by posting this way so if you come across another situation or don't agree with me
at all let me know.
IWU4U
whether to open, limp, call a raise, or fold to a raise. My play I generally fold these types of hands in early position because just calling is stupid because you get
raised to much and then your in a pot with a worse drawing hand. You're probably already holding a worse draw(not to mention you might not have position) than
them so I think calling is too great of a risk with the possibility of being raised. This is the same reason why I don't raise this hand from early position, however, I feel
that if I had to play the hand(such as in a TD tournament when the blinds were low) a raise would be best because it would eliminate any players who would limp in
with something stupid like 874 that they would fold to a raise. From late position I play this hand much differently if it is unopened I will open with this hand and I will
even call a raise sometimes with 246xx because of the position advantage I will have. I am just curious to see how other people play these types of hands and their
thought process for playing them that way. I think we can become better players by posting this way so if you come across another situation or don't agree with me
at all let me know.
IWU4U
a few notes:
- open limping in 2-7 is REALLY BAD. never do it.
- 246 is fine to open raise and 3bet in position unless a rocktight guy is raising into you. you need to buy the button, and that's more important than what (playable) cards are with your deuce.
- never ever cold call in 2-7 unless the pot is never going to end up HU. isolation is more important than your cards, generally.
uncooper:
i open raise any clean 68 (no str8 possibilities) draw from any position. buy the button. thin the field. buy the button. thin the field. buy the button. thin the field.
i also defend that hand from the BB or SB if the pot is going to be HU. multiway you'll need to be drawing smoother than a 368 most often, so i just muck.
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