If he has KQ, I sigh and say NH sir, but really...would he play KQ like this?

Only 22 hands on villain no read yet. Somebody tell me - cough Bud - Simo - Iggy - cough - should I be raising this guy, or just letting him put money in the pots? (for all 3 hands)


Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $15.60
UTG+1: $24.75
CO: $72.55
Button: $22.20
Hero: $26.40
BB: $7.20

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with A 2 8 K
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls, BB checks.

Flop: 3 K 8 ($1.25, 5 players)
Hero bets $1.25, 2 folds, CO calls, Button calls.

Turn: Q ($5, 3 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $3, Button folds, Hero calls.

River: Q ($11, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $11, Hero calls.

Couple hands later -- same villain -- any value in river raise? Should I even be calling?

Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $19.85
Hero: $41.25
CO: $6.10
Button: $20
SB: $23.25
BB: $55.10

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with K Q A K
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.85, 2 folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: 4 6 6 ($2.55, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: Q ($2.55, 3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $2.55, Hero calls, SB folds.

River: Q ($7.65, 2 players)
BB bets $7.65, Hero calls.

Zomg - new best friend SAME villain -- LOOK at the chat from hh--


Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $6.70
UTG+1: $15.65
CO: $27.10
Button: $48.40
SB: $12.45
Hero: $51.90

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 8 2 A A
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: J J 4 ($1, 4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, Button bets $1, SB folds, Hero calls, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: 3 ($3, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $2, Hero calls.

River: K ($7, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $7, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $21
Button showed 6c Kc 9d Th
Hero showed 8h 2h Ad As

Here's the chat (mine anyway, he wasn't saying a word) as I thought out loud...

*** RIVER *** [Jd Jc 4c 3d] [Ks]
jodi911 checks
rdr207 bets $7
jodi911: hehe, i should call.
jodi911 has 15 seconds left to act
jodi911: u have no J
jodi911: maybe a K
jodi911 has requested TIME
jodi911 calls $7

wow u played all these hands like a typical calling station, second hand i think u played ok i guess, but other two, you cant beat all that much.

the fact that ur posting these hands in this order tho tells me that the other guy ur `new best friend`tried bluffing the wrong guy outta of pot tho and you ended up winning all 3.

I don't disagree -- never said I played em correctly, and I post hands for that very reason. There are some solid plo players here, (when they're here), and I try to learn something from their input every time I post a hand.

For these three hands, is it possible that letting a super-aggro guy do most of the betting for you is a good way to play it? If you think I should be raising, where, and to how much, etc? Easy to make a general statement like you did. Feel free to get more specific.

and for Mekan -- you're right -- I did win all three, BUT -- like I say above, I don't say that I played these hands correctly -- I try not to be results based when I analyze hands, and I wasn't posting these to brag about winning 3 small/medium pots. I'm interested to hear some feedback and advice.

Bleh, ugly spot. Without a read I struggle to call this. Villain could easily have a queen here.


Always call this river. Especially so after the previous hand. As soon as you know someone is capable of bluffing the river you can start calling down with marginal hands in certain situations. I can't see much value in a raise though. He can't even have the K high flush.


Why no raise preflop? (even uncoordinated aces are worth raising)

His less than pot bet on the turn looks very suspicious. If he had a jack I would expect a pot bet there. Given that you've seen him bluff two rivers already I think this is a call again. It's very ugly though.

Hand 1 plays way easier if you just pot the turn. You've still got every reason to think your hand's best at that point. Second hand's an easy call, even without a read that villain likes to bluff. The 3rd one's usually just trouble though. Even if you think he bluffs a lot, you've got no reason to get involved on that flop.

Bdc from these limited number of hands , i noticed you are completing a lot of small blinds and having trouble playing them post flop. It is because playing weak small blind hands causes trouble.

You will rarely flop the nuts or nut draw with AKs8s2. It will be quite expensive for you to draw. You won't be able to get paid off when you hit (Actually i don't see any possible draw except the King high flush draw.)

You are calling with this hand to flop two pairs and play it OOP for 3 streets. Even if you flop two pairs , you will be putting your money in with a very little edge or as an underdog.

As in the first hand , you ended up putting more than half your stack in with top pair top kicker. Just fold it and save your 14$ for better situations. You know they will pay your nuts off why are you trying to extract value from playing AK82 out of position against 4 players?

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2nd hand seems standard.

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3rd hand , if you don't raise it preflop then you can fold it on turn or river. People are less likely to bluff in a limped , small pot.

About the read , he can be setting this situation up for the last a few hands you know. Bluff and "get caught" a few times and the whole table will pay you off like crazy for the next 2 hours. I don't like to be the guy who pays off the maniac. I very hardly lower my standards against any player because just because they showed air for a few times doesn't mean they will have air all the time.

Thanks guys -- good advice. Bud - seems like things have come full circle eh? I remember way back in the day when you would play a ton of hands oop and it would always be me preaching about it...lol I'll get it back - even if I break my laptop doing it

lol yeah i remember too. It is just about practice i guess. You will get it back as soon as you start playing regularly again.