Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $21.65
UTG+1: $23.60
CO: $22.75
Hero: $21.45
SB: $7.35
BB: $12.20

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with K 2 Q K
UTG calls, 2 folds, Hero calls, SB calls, BB checks.

Flop: J K J ($1, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $0.25, Hero ???

This guy doesn't bet unless he hit. I didn't raise pre-flop, so he wouldn't put me on KK. Would a raise scare him off? Should I just call and hope he hits his boat on the turn?

Flat call is the only way to go. You want the overcalls and you have a pretty much bulletproof hand, in position.

yup, but pot preflop.

Yeah on the button raise pf.

At times I disagree, certain tables if stacks are deep you have more equity by limping and hoping to flop huge like we did and extract then raise and have players folding a J that would stack off to us, and we keep our hand concieled as players would'nt give us credit for KK all the time. Against players that will stack off with trips etc I dont mind limping as we make value when we flop huge and allow weaker hands to stay in and pay off.

As played flat call flop hope someone calls over comes over the top, and ram and jam on turn and river.

i'm not sure that in this hand, whether we pot or not is going to change whether it gets all in here. if he has a jack, he might be willing to get it in. if he doesn't, he isn't. if we potted preflop, we'd have more money in there to win if he does not have a jack, and with a 1/2 pot c-bet, he'd almost certainly c/r us putting us on AA, which is much more likely than KK given the board.

in general, i agree, sometimes you're right, but that usually has to do more with how many people have entered the pot than anything else. four would be borderline in that case, imho.

It's OK to limp big pair hands in certain situations, but this isn't one of them. We have position, we have a good hand, and we don't have a lot of short-stacks to worry about. Definitely raise this up PF.

On the flop, go ahead and raise it to $1. Just calling the flop and raising later looks more suspicious and it makes it much easier for someone to fold to you. Also, with your read that UTG has trips, you want to start getting money in the pot now. Raising it to $1 is better than raising full pot though as a full pot raise could scare weak trips out of the pot whereas a smaller raise looks like you have weak trips as well and are raising tentatively.

this is a very good point.

its easier to get them to stack off with a jack when the pot is already big from raising preflop.

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