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tskillz187
Honestly I don't understand all the shouting in the thread though, it's wasted. Royal is very stubborn in his approach to poker and IMO it's not likely he is going to say "Wow, I was wrong, great point Acid." And anyone that is reading it can see that what he's saying doesn't make sense.

No need to fight about it. One thing that is very impressive to me is that he has found a game that he can be quite profitable in and he takes advantage of that. That's good for him and kind of a good reason to play - to make money.

I know we have both stated (this is directed at Acid Knight)we play for the challenge and competition, it doesn't seem to be the case with him. He plays to find easy games and make money, which is a great goal (and probably the correct goal) to have.

What does bother me is that because of this success against very poor players he has a false sense of ability. I guess it's kind of natural though when you've had a lot of success against the players you face day in and day out.
Acid_Knight
QUOTE (tskillz187 @ Friday, August 31st, 2007, 1:56 PM) *
I know we have both stated (this is directed at Acid Knight)we play for the challenge and competition, it doesn't seem to be the case with him.

Hey, I like money too!

All good points.
NoBBiR
QUOTE (No_Neck @ Friday, August 31st, 2007, 11:51 AM) *
So I typed Santa rape into google and look what I found.
Ultimate Warrior had a comic book. I found this in his wiki page.
Comic book
Beginning in May 1996, Warrior began writing with Jim Callahan and The Sharp Brothers illustrating a comic book entitled ‎WARRIOR, featuring himself as the main character. The comics sold well in the first two months of their distribution, before sales plummeted and the comic was taken out of circulation in early 1997. The initial success of the comic and its ultimate failure are often attributed to the same things.


Did you know that the guy actually legally changed his name to "Warrior"? He's a freak.


QUOTE (tskillz187 @ Friday, August 31st, 2007, 12:56 PM) *
Honestly I don't understand all the shouting in the thread though, it's wasted. Royal is very stubborn in his approach to poker and IMO it's not likely he is going to say "Wow, I was wrong, great point Acid." And anyone that is reading it can see that what he's saying doesn't make sense.

No need to fight about it. One thing that is very impressive to me is that he has found a game that he can be quite profitable in and he takes advantage of that. That's good for him and kind of a good reason to play - to make money.

I know we have both stated (this is directed at Acid Knight)we play for the challenge and competition, it doesn't seem to be the case with him. He plays to find easy games and make money, which is a great goal (and probably the correct goal) to have.

What does bother me is that because of this success against very poor players he has a false sense of ability. I guess it's kind of natural though when you've had a lot of success against the players you face day in and day out.


This happens to a lot of players, btw. I think it is a faze in a poker players life after playing with the same people for awhile. I went through it, until I lost 500 dollars playing above my head at Turningstone, (even though those players are worse than the one's I play with regularly) which coincidentally was about my networth at the time. Now several of the other players in my little poker circle are going through it, and it is a bit annoying.

Too bad royal never checks the IBAW thread (because he's not cool), it gives you guys a place to bash him in private smile.gif
tskillz187
QUOTE (NoBBiR @ Friday, August 31st, 2007, 3:17 PM) *
Too bad royal never checks the IBAW thread (because he's not cool), it gives you guys a place to bash him in private smile.gif


That's what I was worried about with my post. I don't think it's cool to just bash a regular poster from nl strat cuz he's brash. So I hope I didn't come off that way, but I'm sure it wasn't the most positive thing.

I agree a lot of players get into a phase of thinking they know a lot and are great. Then you talk to people better than you and you play with smart people and you realize you're not that good and you just can beat up on really dumb players or people slightly below your curve.

Like I don't think I'm a very good thinking player at all. I think I play pretty soundly against a robot but against a strong thinking opponent I don't think I have a significant edge or anything. Just takes time and patience.

Thinking that you are smarter than everyone and not being able to criticize your own play to a tee is horrible. You'll never have a satisfying poker career if you eternally think you run bad when you are losing and that you are always making smart plays.

Meh, there's my rant. Just saying once you think you are good at poker, that's when you finally hit the tip of the poker iceburg and you start to see how many really fucking good players there are in the world.
Lavitz
QUOTE (tskillz187 @ Friday, August 31st, 2007, 12:56 PM) *
Honestly I don't understand all the shouting in the thread though, it's wasted. Royal is very stubborn in his approach to poker and IMO it's not likely he is going to say "Wow, I was wrong, great point Acid." And anyone that is reading it can see that what he's saying doesn't make sense.

No need to fight about it. One thing that is very impressive to me is that he has found a game that he can be quite profitable in and he takes advantage of that. That's good for him and kind of a good reason to play - to make money.

I know we have both stated (this is directed at Acid Knight)we play for the challenge and competition, it doesn't seem to be the case with him. He plays to find easy games and make money, which is a great goal (and probably the correct goal) to have.

What does bother me is that because of this success against very poor players he has a false sense of ability. I guess it's kind of natural though when you've had a lot of success against the players you face day in and day out.


Biggg burnnn. Also, making money is the reason most regular solid players play. I love the game and all but honestly I wouldn't be playing as much as I do if it was all for play money, and I'd rather sit at a table of donks then regs. Screw "challenging" myself.

Speaking of money....biggest pot of the month: Shipppp. (other guy in this hand folded 55 lolol)



FullTiltPoker Game #3420601290: Table Butternut (6 max) - $10/$20 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:23:34 ET - 2007/08/31
Seat 1: cudd517 ($2,869)
Seat 2: life-on-mars ($2,115.50)
Seat 3: DaEvils ($2,788)
Seat 4: dwballz ($2,864)
Seat 5: tehdrunky ($2,017)
Seat 6: jay92175 ($1,661.50)
jay92175 posts the small blind of $10
cudd517 posts the big blind of $20
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to cudd517 [9h Th]
life-on-mars folds
DaEvils raises to $70
dwballz has 15 seconds left to act
dwballz is sitting out
dwballz has timed out
dwballz folds
dwballz has returned
tehdrunky calls $70
jay92175 calls $60
cudd517 calls $50
*** FLOP *** [8h 5h 2h]
jay92175 checks
cudd517 bets $140
life-on-mars has been disconnected
DaEvils folds
tehdrunky raises to $460
life-on-mars has reconnected
jay92175 calls $460
cudd517 raises to $2,799, and is all in
tehdrunky calls $1,487, and is all in
jay92175 has 15 seconds left to act
jay92175: flush???
jay92175 has requested TIME
jay92175: &#!%ing set
jay92175 is sitting out
jay92175 has timed out
jay92175 folds
cudd517 shows [9h Th]
tehdrunky shows [4h 6h]
Uncalled bet of $852 returned to cudd517
*** TURN *** [8h 5h 2h] [Qd]
*** RIVER *** [8h 5h 2h Qd] [5c]
cudd517 shows a flush, Ten high
tehdrunky shows a flush, Eight high
cudd517 wins the pot ($4,631) with a flush, Ten high
cudd517: wow
tehdrunky is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4,634 | Rake $3
Board: [8h 5h 2h Qd 5c]
Seat 1: cudd517 (big blind) showed [9h Th] and won ($4,631) with a flush, Ten high
Seat 2: life-on-mars didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: DaEvils folded on the Flop
Seat 4: dwballz didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: tehdrunky (button) showed [4h 6h] and lost with a flush, Eight high
Seat 6: jay92175 (small blind) folded on the Flop
tskillz187
QUOTE (Lavitz @ Friday, August 31st, 2007, 3:46 PM) *
Biggg burnnn. Also, making money is the reason most regular solid players play. I love the game and all but honestly I wouldn't be playing as much as I do if it was all for play money, and I'd rather sit at a table of donks then regs. Screw "challenging" myself.


First off, nh!

I really didn't think it was a big burn when I wrote it, oh well. I just think people can get an inflated ego when they are the best player that they know or play against, it's natural, like I said. I think that most of us are probably the best player that we know personally, so it's tough to stay grounded.

Obviously I wouldn't play for play money. But I play more for the enjoyment of playing against skilled players than I do for picking off weak targets. That just isn't fulfilling for me anymore. It's like a video game to me, when you can beat a level it's not very fun playing it over and over again, you want to beat the next level.

That's how it is for me anyways, but I'm not out on my own and using this for grocery money, just tuition money and that's easy come easy go. I bet once I am in my career that I will care much more about supplementing my income and will find other ways to let my competitive juices flow.
NoBBiR
Was the spread in the Argentina vs. US game 25 points? O_o
tskillz187
QUOTE (NoBBiR @ Friday, August 31st, 2007, 5:57 PM) *
Was the spread in the Argentina vs. US game 25 points? O_o


I got 28. It was a 15 point game.
Naismith
I hate the poker
Poker makes me really mad
Die poker, please die
tskillz187
QUOTE (Naismith @ Friday, August 31st, 2007, 6:31 PM) *
I hate the poker
Poker makes me really mad
Die poker, please die


Old people FTW
Lavitz
QUOTE (Naismith @ Friday, August 31st, 2007, 5:31 PM) *
I hate the poker
Poker makes me really mad
Die poker, please die


First I had the boom
Now they come gives me the doom
Four K in ten min.


(I will never slowplay AA p-flop again, ever)
FullTiltPoker Game #3423449924: Table Larson (6 max) - $10/$20 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:44:40 ET - 2007/08/31
Seat 1: DrunkPPlaya ($2,004)
Seat 2: Keystone_Co ($2,107)
Seat 3: UR Chips ($1,368.50)
Seat 4: cudd517 ($1,990)
Seat 5: tehdrunky ($2,651)
Seat 6: Mr Braski ($3,641)
Mr Braski posts the small blind of $10
DrunkPPlaya posts the big blind of $20
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to cudd517 [Ac Ah]
Keystone_Co folds
UR Chips raises to $70
cudd517 calls $70
tehdrunky folds
Mr Braski has 15 seconds left to act
Mr Braski calls $60
DrunkPPlaya folds
*** FLOP *** [4s 6h 2h]
Mr Braski checks
UR Chips has 15 seconds left to act
UR Chips checks
cudd517 bets $150
Mr Braski has 15 seconds left to act
Mr Braski raises to $450
UR Chips folds
cudd517 calls $300
*** TURN *** [4s 6h 2h] [8d]
Mr Braski has 15 seconds left to act
Mr Braski bets $960
cudd517 raises to $1,470, and is all in
Mr Braski calls $510
cudd517 shows [Ac Ah]
Mr Braski shows [6s 5s]
*** RIVER *** [4s 6h 2h 8d] [3d]
cudd517 shows a pair of Aces
Mr Braski shows a straight, Six high
Mr Braski wins the pot ($4,067) with a straight, Six high
Keystone_Co has been disconnected
cudd517 is sitting out
Keystone_Co has reconnected
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4,070 | Rake $3
Board: [4s 6h 2h 8d 3d]
Seat 1: DrunkPPlaya (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: Keystone_Co didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: UR Chips folded on the Flop
Seat 4: cudd517 showed [Ac Ah] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 5: tehdrunky (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: Mr Braski (small blind) showed [6s 5s] and won ($4,067) with a straight, Six high

OH HAI HE THINKS IM ON A SQUEEZE LOLOLOL TIME TO DYE!!!OH NOZ!! WIAT! NOT ANOTHER HEA....@%!&&@*!&

FullTiltPoker Game #3423542558: Table Larson (6 max) - $10/$20 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:54:04 ET - 2007/08/31
Seat 1: DrunkPPlaya ($2,420)
Seat 2: TheNogre ($493.50)
Seat 3: UR Chips ($1,253.50)
Seat 4: cudd517 ($2,030)
Seat 5: tehdrunky ($2,554.50)
Seat 6: Mr Braski ($5,608)
UR Chips posts the small blind of $10
cudd517 posts the big blind of $20
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to cudd517 [Ac As]
tehdrunky raises to $70
Mr Braski calls $70
DrunkPPlaya folds
TheNogre folds
UR Chips folds
cudd517 has 15 seconds left to act
cudd517 raises to $240
tehdrunky has 15 seconds left to act
tehdrunky raises to $740
Mr Braski folds
cudd517 raises to $2,030, and is all in
tehdrunky calls $1,290
cudd517 shows [Ac As]
tehdrunky shows [Ks Kh]
*** FLOP *** [Qh Ts 2h]
*** TURN *** [Qh Ts 2h] [3h]
*** RIVER *** [Qh Ts 2h 3h] [7h]
cudd517 shows a pair of Aces
tehdrunky shows a flush, King high
tehdrunky wins the pot ($4,137) with a flush, King high
cudd517: omfg
cudd517 is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4,140 | Rake $3
Board: [Qh Ts 2h 3h 7h]
Seat 1: DrunkPPlaya didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: TheNogre (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: UR Chips (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: cudd517 (big blind) showed [Ac As] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 5: tehdrunky showed [Ks Kh] and won ($4,137) with a flush, King high
Seat 6: Mr Braski folded before the Flop
NoBBiR
QUOTE (tskillz187 @ Friday, August 31st, 2007, 5:13 PM) *
I got 28. It was a 15 point game.


Nice win ;-), I'm sort of suprised that was the spread - they did, after all, win the Olympics two years ago.

QUOTE (Lavitz @ Friday, August 31st, 2007, 6:10 PM) *
First I had the boom
Now they come gives me the doom
Four K in ten min.


Maybe Lee Jones passed around my doomswitch and it's safe to get back on PokerStars now? No wait, that's just him trying to make me think I should go throw more money down the toliet. GTFO OF MY HEAD LEE JONES.
No_Neck


I might have to become a tourney donk.basically I started playing a few here and there now I am running "super hot" according to sharkscope.
tskillz187
Rail call, Acid Knight FT at tilt

Edit: He got 2nd, Great game Acid!!!
Lavitz
QUOTE (tskillz187 @ Saturday, September 1st, 2007, 10:48 AM) *
Rail call, Acid Knight FT at tilt

Edit: He got 2nd, Great game Acid!!!


Didn't even know he played at tilt. What's his tilt name and what tourney was it?
Naismith
Your hands above made me want to puke a bit.
SCS
QUOTE (Naismith @ Friday, August 31st, 2007, 9:31 PM) *
I hate the poker
Poker makes me really mad
Die poker, please die



Nice Haiku.
Lavitz
QUOTE (Naismith @ Saturday, September 1st, 2007, 11:50 AM) *
Your hands above made me want to puke a bit.


I was very close to smashing monitor. Yesterday was a very sick, swingy day. Still ended up a decent amount somehow.
Acid_Knight
QUOTE (Lavitz @ Saturday, September 1st, 2007, 12:43 PM) *
Didn't even know he played at tilt. What's his tilt name and what tourney was it?

LOL, that's because I have like $50 on FT and I was playing a 5 table $5 sng. You can hardly call that "playing"
tskillz187
QUOTE (Lavitz @ Saturday, September 1st, 2007, 12:43 PM) *
Didn't even know he played at tilt. What's his tilt name and what tourney was it?


I was just trying to tilt him. He doesn't play much and usually it's just to beat me in HU $5 matches.
NoBBiR
Acid, do you share my online ineptiability? I can't play online poker for my life.

And yet I just keep putting more and more on wink.gif
tskillz187
QUOTE (NoBBiR @ Saturday, September 1st, 2007, 6:46 PM) *
Acid, do you share my online ineptiability? I can't play online poker for my life.

And yet I just keep putting more and more on wink.gif


Apparently you didn't read the rail call I made.

He got 2nd at the FT. Does that smatter of ineptitude to you?

Didn't think so.
NoBBiR
Oh, no I didn't.

DAMN I THOUGHT I FOUND SOMEONE ELSE WHO RUNS BAD ONLINE.
Acid_Knight
QUOTE (NoBBiR @ Saturday, September 1st, 2007, 6:46 PM) *
Acid, do you share my online ineptiability? I can't play online poker for my life.

And yet I just keep putting more and more on wink.gif

I used to own people on PartyPoker. Now, I am much better at live poker.
tskillz187
http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...107448&st=0


Just for those that don't go to general forum. BigDMcgee and FoxwoodsPro are voting to see who gets banned from fcp forever. So rock the vote and do what's right.
David_Nicoson
QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Sunday, September 2nd, 2007, 2:10 AM) *
I used to own people on PartyPoker. Now, I am much better at live poker.

Do you know why that is?
NoBBiR
Because Party Poker wasn't rigged, like PokerStars is smile.gif.
No_Neck
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB (t4270)
UTG (t1590)
Hero (t3360)
Button (t2760)
SB (t1520)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q, Q.
1 fold, Hero raises to t600, Button calls t600, 2 folds.

Flop: (t1500) J, 8, J (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets t1000, Hero raises to t2760, Button calls t1160 (All-In).

Turn: (t6420) 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t6420) T (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t5820

Results in white below:
Hero has Qs Qc (two pair, queens and jacks).
Button has 7d 9d (straight, jack high).
Outcome: Button wins t5820. Hero wins t600.



no kidding
Zach6668
He had a flush draw too.
Acid_Knight
QUOTE (David_Nicoson @ Sunday, September 2nd, 2007, 1:39 AM) *
Do you know why that is?

Well, the people on PP used to be the worst poker players in existence. Trust me.

Also, I do really well at reading people and how they make their bets and things like that. Also, I feel it's easier for me to mislead people at a live table than it is online.
tskillz187
QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Monday, September 3rd, 2007, 11:15 AM) *
Well, the people on PP used to be the worst poker players in existence. Trust me.

Also, I do really well at reading people and how they make their bets and things like that. Also, I feel it's easier for me to mislead people at a live table than it is online.


You're at work on Labor Day. HAHAHAHAHAH
NoBBiR
HSP was so much less exciting this week. sad.gif
Acid_Knight
QUOTE (tskillz187 @ Monday, September 3rd, 2007, 11:33 AM) *
You're at work on Labor Day. HAHAHAHAHAH

I was gonna say that I was at home when I wrote that, but sadly, I wasn't.
No_Neck
QUOTE (NoBBiR @ Monday, September 3rd, 2007, 11:40 PM) *
HSP was so much less exciting this week. sad.gif


DAMMIT, that is basically the highlight of my week.
Acid_Knight
QUOTE (No_Neck @ Tuesday, September 4th, 2007, 5:40 AM) *
DAMMIT, that is basically the highlight of my week.

This is getting to be very sad.
David_Nicoson
QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Monday, September 3rd, 2007, 2:15 PM) *
Well, the people on PP used to be the worst poker players in existence. Trust me.

Also, I do really well at reading people and how they make their bets and things like that. Also, I feel it's easier for me to mislead people at a live table than it is online.

Do you mislead them on a hand-by-hand basis, or by creating a false image of yourself in general?
NoBBiR
QUOTE (No_Neck @ Tuesday, September 4th, 2007, 4:40 AM) *
DAMMIT, that is basically the highlight of my week.


Except when Matusow backdoors that bitch Todd Brunson for 60k. I'd pay good hard earned student loan money to watch that again.
dms26
Raise your hand if you can't beat micro NL games? *raises hand*
Acid_Knight
QUOTE (NoBBiR @ Tuesday, September 4th, 2007, 7:55 AM) *
Except when Matusow backdoors that bitch Todd Brunson for 60k. I'd pay good hard earned student loan money to watch that again.

www.pokertube.com

It's free. Save your mobnies.
Acid_Knight
QUOTE (David_Nicoson @ Tuesday, September 4th, 2007, 7:49 AM) *
Do you mislead them on a hand-by-hand basis, or by creating a false image of yourself in general?

Mostly with an overall image. If that isn't working, I'm gonna go out of my way to show them a hand that send a message about something which I plan to do the exact opposite of in the near future.
Acid_Knight
QUOTE (dms26 @ Tuesday, September 4th, 2007, 8:14 AM) *
Raise your hand if you can't beat micro NL games? *raises hand*

*raises hand*

It's probably because I just don't care about the $3 and I'm impatient and bored. I do however really like the low limit PLO games. People have no clue what they're doing. It's great!
rdtedm
I havent really read this thread past the first few pages, but now it's at 25. What's it really about? Is it like a forum that belongs in gen but is here for the NL strat lurkers?
David_Nicoson
QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Tuesday, September 4th, 2007, 11:25 AM) *
*raises hand*

It's probably because I just don't care about the $3 and I'm impatient and bored. I do however really like the low limit PLO games. People have no clue what they're doing. It's great!

I should've just parked my ass at the Rio playing 2/5 PLO in July. 0.10/0.25 Omaha is tougher on-line.
Naismith
QUOTE (David_Nicoson @ Tuesday, September 4th, 2007, 8:34 AM) *
I should've just parked my ass at the Rio playing 2/5 PLO in July. 0.10/0.25 Omaha is tougher on-line.


My buddy, Andy, and I sat at a new 2/5 PLO game at the Rio. The players all knew each other, which made me uncomfortable and, oh yeah, I'm almost as bad as Acid at PLO. I got stacked on, like, the fourth hand with top two pair (ACES UP = NUTZ!!!!). A few hands later, I more than doubled up when I got sticky with bottom set. All of these guys started making fun of me for not folding my set, so I left. Who wants to be ridiculed at the table, right? I got up with a small profit. Andy got up with a huge profit. I had about 15k in my pocket.

I guess there's really no point to that story other than to say, don't make fun of the fish at your table. He might just get up and take 30 buy ins worth of free money with him.
rdtedm
QUOTE (Naismith @ Tuesday, September 4th, 2007, 9:51 AM) *
My buddy, Andy, and I sat at a new 2/5 PLO game at the Rio. The players all knew each other, which made me uncomfortable and, oh yeah, I'm almost as bad as Acid at PLO. I got stacked on, like, the fourth hand with top two pair (ACES UP = NUTZ!!!!). A few hands later, I more than doubled up when I got sticky with bottom set. All of these guys started making fun of me for not folding my set, so I left. Who wants to be ridiculed at the table, right? I got up with a small profit. Andy got up with a huge profit. I had about 15k in my pocket.

I guess there's really no point to that story other than to say, don't make fun of the fish at your table. He might just get up and take 30 buy ins worth of free money with him.


Big pockets?
mtdesmoines
QUOTE (rdtedm @ Tuesday, September 4th, 2007, 7:53 AM) *
Big pockets?


About like having a small paperback in your pocket.

Naismith, what's this "retirement" stuff about?
Naismith
QUOTE (mtdesmoines @ Tuesday, September 4th, 2007, 8:57 AM) *
About like having a small paperback in your pocket.

Naismith, what's this "retirement" stuff about?


Oh, man, I haven't played a decently-played hand of poker since returning to Vegas. I don't know what the problem is. I just can't bring myself to play well. I've had a few winning sessions, but each time I do, I get in about eight buy ins before I turn it around. Thankfully, I've only been playing 1-2NL and haven't gone back to my 2-5 game.

Combine that with a super, duper, extra-fun five-figure property tax bill and I've had neither the desire nor the fundage to be playing lately.

My poker retirements are as real as a...oh, crap, I want to go Terry Funk here, but I'm not sure how many people will get that reference...oh, I know...as real as a Rocky Balboa retirement.
Naismith
QUOTE (rdtedm @ Tuesday, September 4th, 2007, 8:53 AM) *
Big pockets?


LOL. Ever seen Dodgeball? Where Ben Stiller offers Vince Vaughn the money for the gym? He opens the briefcase and it's one small bundle of bills.

That's what getting 15k in cash is like. You expect it to be huge, but it's only a couple inches thick. I carried it around in my jeans pocket the majority of time!
David_Nicoson
QUOTE (Naismith @ Tuesday, September 4th, 2007, 12:07 PM) *
That's what getting 15k in cash is like. You expect it to be huge, but it's only a couple inches thick. I carried it around in my jeans pocket the majority of time!

This makes me cringe now. Don't make yourself a target for robbery.
rdtedm
I went to wells fargo the other day to cash 7k worth of checks. Couple this with being friday (aka check cashing day for the hispanics), and it was probably the worst 30 second walk to my car of my life. I guess my view of 15k is just different because I got mine in $20-$100's, so it was fairly large.
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