You're probably right.

But I would say I bet the turn quite a bit here, I really don't know the %, maybe about 50%. It's villain dependent but I basically bet the turn with some timing tells and if I don't have other reads on the villain. When I make it $8 my turn bet can be smaller. Also there isn't a flush draw out here, so I'm not really charging against that right now, it's a dryish board. If I made it $10 and he called I'd pretty much always shut down on the turn. Is that how you do it? I'm not saying that's good or bad, just wondering.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $93.95
UTG+1: $49.75
CO: $110.50
Hero: $53.25
SB: $51.55
BB: $50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with A Q
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, UTG calls, CO folds.

Flop: K 7 J ($7.25, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $5, UTG raises to $12.5, Hero raises to $33, UTG calls.

Turn: K ($73.25, 2 players)
UTG is all-in $62.95, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $62.95 returned to UTG.

Results:
Final pot: $73.25


Bleh. I should have called the turn with those odds.

BTW, this was a read based flop reraise. His limping range just doesn't come close to that flop unless he has 77. He raises KJ+ preflop, and I thought he had air (small pair maybe) or T9/QT. I was snap calling a shove on the flop, but the stop and go threw me completely, and I didn't think it through enough.

LOL. Your game at Tilt is officially way tougher than my game at Absolute for same stakes if you're going through that much though process.

I used to do this - value raise the flop as a bluff in order to make more when he folds the turn. I now just prefer to get the hand over with because you end up playing an expensive multistreet guessing game where you pay off big hands handsomely and don't make too much more from weak hands.

If he calls a larger flop raise I'm giving up unless I catch something on the turn.

I was so happy with my play on that hand until I folded the turn. I saw his shove for $60 and it didn't fully process with me that I was getting almost 4:1.

He showed QhTh btw.

http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=back2evenvq7.jpg

Somehow this is ok with me. The 1st 120 hands were played against a guy who was good enough that I shouldn't have played him AND he ran white hot (87% won at SD, 67% won when saw flop) and the biggest pot I won against him was $6. I just played for a little bit because it was a chance to 2-table against one person.

After that it was mostly donks and shortstackers.

That's sort of funny. Oh, and he couldn't have had AK

And I can't tell you how many times this has happened to me.

Yeah, pretty stupid..... thanks

I cant understand any of that

sniff sniff...... whats that smell

http://img239.imageshack.us/my.php?image=doneuy4.jpg

I flirted with that $1k for a while. That is all .5/1 HU. I hope to string together a few more days like this one.

made $26 profit @ a home game yesterday and got to see the Zeebo theorem proved 100% accurate too. I also misheard a showdown and mucked the winning hand face down...totally my bad, I wasn't paying attention. All in all, was a fun night except now I smell like an ashtray.

WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I got my laptop fixed...


haven't been playing any poker lately but I have a feeling this week is going to be 1000% poker to try to make some end of the month goals.

Hows everyone doing?

Check my graph above. I played a lot this weekend and I think that I played well almost the whole time with just a few mistakes inbetween.

Also, it's good that I set no goals for myself since I wouldn't meet any of them

QFT

Setting goals is the first step a player can make towards playing the reverse of optimal.

yeah I am only $5k short of my goal. Big end of the month rush one time!!!?!?!

Today so far: 500 hands, -4.5 buyins. Really happy with how I've played actually.



******* Hand 1 ********

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $73.65
UTG+1: $149.60
CO: $46.65
Button: $50.50
Hero: $52
BB: $23.10

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with K A
UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $1.75, CO calls, Button raises to $8, Hero raises to $20, 3 folds, Button raises all-in $50.5, Hero calls $30.5 (pot was $74.25).

Flop: 5 9 9 ($105, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $105)


Turn: 7 ($105, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $105)


River: Q ($105, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $105)


Results:
Final pot: $105
Button showed Ks As
Hero showed Kh Ad


His squeezing range there is pretty big, and I don't want to flat call $8 OOP. I can't fold to a shove getting 2.5:1.

******* Hand 2 ********

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $57.15
CO: $100.85
BB: $23.1
Button: $98.90
SB: $34.85
BB: $50

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with Q Q
Hero raises to $1.75, CO folds, Button raises to $6, 2 folds, Hero raises to $19.75, Button raises all-in $98.9, Hero calls all-in $39.15.
Uncalled bets: $40 returned to Button.

Flop: K 2 K ($1.5, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $118.55)


Turn: 2 ($1.5, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $118.55)


River: 5 ($1.5, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $118.55)


Results:
Final pot: $1.5
Button showed Kc Ah
Hero showed Qd Qh


Standard.


******* Hand 3 ********

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $50.70
UTG+1: $153.80
CO: $34.60
Button: $49.25
Hero: $50
BB: $100.85

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with K K
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, Button folds, Hero raises to $2.75, BB folds, UTG calls, CO calls.

Flop: 8 5 6 ($8.75, 3 players)
Hero bets $6, UTG folds, CO calls.

Turn: 9 ($20.75, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $5.5, Hero calls $5.5 (pot was $26.25).

River: 4 ($31.75, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $8, Hero calls $8 (pot was $39.75).

Results:
Final pot: $47.75
CO showed 6h 6d
Hero mucks Kh Kc


God I wanted to fold the turn and river. It was just soooooooooooooooooooooooooo cheap. If he raises the flop he doubles through though, so I guess I saved money there.


******* Hand 4 ********

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $50.20
CO: $177.70
Hero: $50
SB: $50
BB: $14.90

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with J A
2 folds, Hero raises to $1.75, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: 2 8 A ($3.75, 2 players)
BB bets $3.75, Hero calls $3.75 (pot was $7.5).

Turn: K ($11.25, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $7, BB calls.

River: Q ($25.25, 2 players)
BB is all-in $2.4, Hero calls $2.4 (pot was $27.65).

Results:
Final pot: $30.05
BB showed Ad Qs
Hero mucks Jc Ah


Lol. Just about sums up the session really.




This was the only mistake I made:


Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $39.65
UTG+1: $30.30
Hero: $50
Button: $36.15
SB: $33.25
BB: $110.90

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with T T
UTG raises to $1.75, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to $5.75, Button calls, 2 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: 4 J 2 ($18, 3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $12, Button calls, UTG folds.

Turn: Q ($42, 2 players)
Hero is all-in $32.25, Button calls all-in $18.4.
Uncalled bets: $13.85 returned to Hero.

River: Q ($78.8, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $78.8)


Results:
Final pot: $78.8
Hero showed Ts Tc
Button showed Jc Jh


Hated the idea of check/folding to a 1/2 pot allin. In retrospect his range for flat calling the flop is probably 80% JJ and 20% QQ.

Sigh. Correction: 6.5 buyins down.

PokerEV keeps my sanity intact though.

You take some sick swings man. How many tables do you play at once?

Usually 4-6, but sometimes 8. I want to bump it to 8 full time, but I lose a little concentration when I have that many going at the moment. Today was just 4 tabling, and I decided to nit up a bit, playing 18/15ish (I'm usually 23/20ish - just wanted to try something different). I just finished:

These are the only hands I won more than $10 on:


******* Hand 1 ********

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $72.25
Hero: $50.75
Button: $11.70
SB: $52.45
BB: $46.90

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with 7 7
UTG folds, Hero raises to $1.75, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: 6 7 J ($5.5, 3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4.5, Button raises all-in $9.95, BB folds, Hero calls $5.45 (pot was $19.95).

Turn: T ($25.4, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $25.4)


River: 2 ($25.4, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $25.4)


Results:
Final pot: $25.4
Hero showed 7s 7h
Button showed Kd Ah


******* Hand 2 ********

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $72.25
UTG: $102
Button: $55.25
SB: $49.75
Hero: $55.60

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is BB with T 9
UTG folds, Button raises to $1.75, SB folds, Hero calls $1.25 (pot was $2.5).

Flop: T 6 2 ($3.75, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $3, Hero calls $3 (pot was $6.75).

Turn: 5 ($9.75, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $7, Hero calls $7 (pot was $16.75).

River: J ($23.75, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

Results:
Final pot: $23.75
Button showed Kd Ac
Hero showed Th 9h


******* Hand 3 ********

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $20.20
UTG+1: $86.35
CO: $153.50
Button: $52.45
SB: $122.70
Hero: $52.30

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 4 4
UTG raises to $1.5, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB folds, Hero calls $1 (pot was $6.75).

Flop: 4 T K ($7.75, 5 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, CO bets $5, Button folds, Hero calls $5 (pot was $12.75), 2 folds.

Turn: A ($17.75, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

River: Q ($17.75, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

Results:
Final pot: $17.75
CO showed Qh Kc
Hero showed 4c 4h


(Ya, I screwed this one up. Anything but an ace or 9 on the turn and I was stacking this guy though)

Pretty gross little session you got there.

I played pretty horrible so far today. Off to do some laundry then try again. I just looked I haven't cracked 10k hands yet this month ROFL!!!

My went to SD is way smaller than yours. Like 22-23% with those 17/14 stats. Maybe you are keeping pots too small and calling too often? Just thought I'd throw it out there. My aggression is similar with river a little higher.

It's probably just variance over a small sample.

If I look at this month with today's session excluded:



I guess dropping the VPIP and PFR means I'm seeing less flops with less speculative hands, and the hands I see the flop with are the ones I'm more likely to go to showdown with. The only thing I changed today was really that I decided not to 3-bet mid pairs as much, and I checked behind on several flops where I would normally bet out:

Dealt to Simo123 [Jh Ah]
echobike folds
blender22 calls $0.50
Simo123 raises to $2.50
wladouille folds
f4t3less folds
blender22 calls $2
*** FLOP *** [8h Kd Ac]
blender22 checks
Simo123 checks
*** TURN *** [8h Kd Ac] [4h]
blender22 bets $5.75
Simo123 raises to $23
blender22 calls $7.20, and is all in
Simo123 shows [Jh Ah]
blender22 shows [Ad 4d]
Uncalled bet of $10.05 returned to Simo123
*** RIVER *** [8h Kd Ac 4h] [9d]
Simo123 shows a pair of Aces
blender22 shows two pair, Aces and Fours
blender22 wins the pot ($30.10) with two pair, Aces and Fours

Little things like that kept happening today.

Student teaching is going to own my soul.

Hurray for running 6.6 buyins below allin luck in 3300 hands.

Making me not want to play tonight. I will regardless, obv.

Time for seminar from 5-7!!!

Holy crap I just did 7 of those carts full of laundry, it cost me $60 but it is done for another two months

holy crap


is there a game on Weds? I can't remember if you said it was still on. I like the idea of having the big game once a month - we could even do it bi-monthly and I can host it every other time.

an email will be sent, I am moving it to Friday so I can grind for the rest of the week. (before the end of the month)

i see you Teddy

excellent, friday works much better for me being a degenerate gambooler.

I'm no longer posting where I play anywhere but in this thread. The site is too soft and I don't want FCP filling it up. But this why my fellow BAW grinders should play there. I'm looking at you Simo. Your playing in way too tough a $50 max game, in absolute you can buyin for 200bbs too, so you get the fish sitting with extra big stacks.


Absolute Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Absolute-Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP ($20)
CO ($20)
Button ($86.30)
Hero ($66.10)
BB ($85.15)
UTG ($49.25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 2, 2.
1 fold, MP checks, CO checks, Button raises to $2.5, Hero calls $2.25, 1 fold, MP folds, CO calls $2.

Flop: ($8.50) Q, Q, 2 (3 players)
Hero bets $5, CO raises to $17.5, Button calls $17.50, Hero raises to $63.6, Button calls $46.10.

Turn: ($153.20) K (3 players)

River: ($153.20) 8 (3 players)

Final Pot: $153.2

Results in white below:
Hero has 2c 2d (full house, twos full of queens).
CO has As 9h (one pair, queens).
Button has Kh Jh (two pair, kings and queens).
Outcome: Hero wins $153.20.

pm sn please

I would be doing great, except my allin luck is $373 = 7.5 buyins down for my last 2500 hands.

Oh I wasn't saying you aren't winning. Hope you didn't think that, was just saying it's verrrrrrrry soft at absolute.

I'm a little frustrated tbh. For some reason variance seems to come in a pattern for me - run even/slightly above expectation for a while, build confidence, play great, crush, and generally win at like 20BB/100 for thousands of hands, then for a couple of days lose every allin and every coinflip to come crashing down. I wish it would just average out at a little bit of variance per day.

It's happened twice at PLO, and it's happened/happening again at NL now.

I love PokerEV because it keeps me sane and helps me to really look back at sessions to see where I made mistakes if any, and recently I've just been looking through and thinking "yeah, played that fine" for almost every pot (and that's not something I've ever been able to really say before). It just really sucks that today I dropped >6 buyins when I really feel like I was reading and playing well.


/rant


Oh, and to end on a positive note, I think I figured out one thing that my game lacked earlier on today - TAG preflop leads to nit postflop. This was from a quick session this evening back playing more LAG (25/21), and I'd probably have folded earlier today (both preflop and on the flop).

Dealt to Simo123 [Kh 9h]
Simo123 raises to $1.75
Loucetius folds
ZeRo115 calls $1.75
jwilson1230 folds
1Timothy folds
liberty21 calls $1.25
*** FLOP *** [2c Jh 4d]
liberty21 bets $5.50
Simo123 has 15 seconds left to act
Simo123 raises to $19
ZeRo115 folds
liberty21 folds
Uncalled bet of $13.50 returned to Simo123
Simo123 mucks
Simo123 wins the pot ($15.70)

Fold is quite standard here. Otherwise, push.


I know you noted this, but please, please check-raise (or lead). Also, you can probably v-bet/fold the river.

Final note...I realize that y'all want to post hands, but this is starting to look a lot like the Challenge thread. I feel like we've got our own thing here...and if you really want analysis, why not just make new strat threads?

I think people are just showing off lately. Usually this thread has little to no actual poker content in it

Full Tilt Poker Game #5036290869: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (38243595), Table 1 - 25/50 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:08:57 ET - 2008/01/28
Seat 1: Italiano67 (805)
Seat 3: Tawbert Roll (2,165)
Seat 4: Jacuzi Casanova (1,575)
Seat 5: Billwv (1,135)
Seat 6: Studinator (3,320)
Jacuzi Casanova posts the small blind of 25
Billwv posts the big blind of 50
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Studinator [Ah Ac]
Studinator raises to 150
Italiano67 calls 150
Tawbert Roll folds
Jacuzi Casanova folds
Billwv folds
*** FLOP *** [4c Th 7h]
Studinator bets 170
Italiano67 calls 170
*** TURN *** [4c Th 7h] [Jc]
Studinator bets 450
Italiano67 has 15 seconds left to act
Italiano67 folds
Uncalled bet of 450 returned to Studinator
Studinator mucks
Studinator wins the pot (715)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 715 | Rake 0
Board: [4c Th 7h Jc]
Seat 1: Italiano67 folded on the Turn
Seat 3: Tawbert Roll (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: Jacuzi Casanova (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: Billwv (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: Studinator collected (715), mucked

Full Tilt Poker Game #5036391906: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (38243595), Table 1 - 30/60 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:16:52 ET - 2008/01/28
Seat 3: Tawbert Roll (2,145)
Seat 4: Jacuzi Casanova (1,545)
Seat 5: Billwv (1,005)
Seat 6: Studinator (4,305)
Studinator posts the small blind of 30
Tawbert Roll posts the big blind of 60
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Studinator [Ad Ac]
Jacuzi Casanova folds
Billwv calls 60
Studinator raises to 240
Tawbert Roll folds
Billwv calls 180
*** FLOP *** [3d 7h 9h]
Studinator bets 360
Billwv raises to 765, and is all in
Studinator calls 405
Billwv shows [Ah 2h]
Studinator shows [Ad Ac]
*** TURN *** [3d 7h 9h] [4s]
*** RIVER *** [3d 7h 9h 4s] [Th]
Billwv shows a flush, Ace high
Studinator shows a pair of Aces
Billwv wins the pot (2,070) with a flush, Ace high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2,070 | Rake 0
Board: [3d 7h 9h 4s Th]
Seat 3: Tawbert Roll (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: Jacuzi Casanova didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: Billwv (button) showed [Ah 2h] and won (2,070) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 6: Studinator (small blind) showed [Ad Ac] and lost with a pair of Aces

Full Tilt Poker Game #5036435197: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (38243595), Table 1 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:20:17 ET - 2008/01/28
Seat 3: Tawbert Roll (355)
Seat 4: Jacuzi Casanova (1,775)
Seat 5: Billwv (2,830)
Seat 6: Studinator (4,040)
Jacuzi Casanova posts the small blind of 40
Billwv posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Studinator [Ah Ac]
Studinator raises to 240
Tawbert Roll folds
Jacuzi Casanova folds
Billwv calls 160
*** FLOP *** [6d Ad 4d]
Billwv checks
Studinator bets 520
Billwv folds
Uncalled bet of 520 returned to Studinator
Studinator mucks
Studinator wins the pot (520)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 520 | Rake 0
Board: [6d Ad 4d]
Seat 3: Tawbert Roll (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: Jacuzi Casanova (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: Billwv (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: Studinator collected (520), mucked

Did I ever say how much I loved FTP?

Dealt to No_Neck [4s 4d]
No_Neck - Raises $2 to $2
DANGERANG1 - Folds
MAVERIK148 - Calls $2
FUGGEDUP4LYF - Folds
BOCADILLO - Folds
DAVE476976 - Folds
*** FLOP *** [4h Ad Kc]
No_Neck - Bets $3
MAVERIK148 - Raises $6 to $6
No_Neck - Calls $3
*** TURN *** [4h Ad Kc] [Qs]
No_Neck - Checks
MAVERIK148 - Bets $3
No_Neck - Raises $16.50 to $16.50
MAVERIK148 - Raises $30 to $33
No_Neck - All-In(Raise) $107.20 to $123.70
MAVERIK148 - All-In $88.57
No_Neck - returned ($2.13) : not called
*** RIVER *** [4h Ad Kc Qs] [9c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
No_Neck - Shows [4s 4d] (Three of a kind, fours)
MAVERIK148 - Shows [Ah Qc] (Two Pair, aces and queens)
No_Neck Collects $256.39 from main pot

I had his reraising range to be something like 99+,AQ+, with an occasional bluff squeeze. I don't think I can fold against that range. Meh.


Ya. I flatted the flop looking for overcallers and it just went wrong from there. I can usually stack that guy's KQ on anything but an A or 9 turn though.


Ya, I wasn't really posting them for strategy, it was just to kinda vent, and as I'd already posted how the session was going here I just posted the worst/most questionable hands here too.

Matt Andromeda's "Wisdom of the Day"

Do not, and I repeat, DO NOT grab a pan with your bare hand that was sitting in a 400 degree oven for 30 minutes.

jeebus mothershitting christ did that hurt. I seared my entire hand

I did the same once. I pulled a pan out of the oven at 450 degrees, realized I had forgotten to salt the pretzels, salted them, and then not just touched the pan, but actually picked it up bare-handed and set it in the oven. I was able to do this because (as we have seen from my other adventures):

1. I have a good pain tolerance.
2. I'm not very smart.

Salted searing flesh wound? Sounds more like a pain fetish to me.

the stupid part is I used an oven mitt to take it out of the oven - I put it down on the stove and plated the steaks then grabbed some stuff out of the fridge to make a pan sauce. Then I grabbed the handle of the pan and lifted it off the stove to pour in some cream and held it for a second or two before my brain kicked me in the nuts to drop the pan.


the smell of searing flesh b2b steak au poivre and roasted potatoes - not too appealling.

(I ate the steak anyways )


The only reason I feel so retarded about it is because I kept reminding myself to not grab it - I have a history of moving too fast in the kitchen and just grabbing things...like glass baking dishes and cookie sheets. I just need to break down and get the Ove' Glove or something.

Thread is milimeters away from turning totally gay.

at least he was cooking steak and potatoes, it could have been quiche or something

Someone needs to talk about naked chicks.

Fast.