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Temporary Nuts
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mtdesmoines
QUOTE (CobaltBlue @ Wednesday, January 2nd, 2008, 11:02 AM) *
(Oh, and the goal here is not really to 'poke her'.)


Lie.
Zach6668
QUOTE (NoBBiR @ Wednesday, January 2nd, 2008, 11:36 AM) *
I DONT HAVE A JOB.

GO ME!
drcossack
QUOTE (NoBBiR @ Wednesday, January 2nd, 2008, 11:36 AM) *
I DONT HAVE A JOB.

GO ME!
Acid_Knight
Get a job you bums!
krup24
QUOTE (No_Neck @ Wednesday, January 2nd, 2008, 12:14 PM) *
Krup quit your job and go pro... come on you know you want to.


would love too but the wife is in grad school and if i don't bring in a steady income for the next 24 months then i probably lose my house, car, etc. so maybe in 24 months but probably not. i actually just tallyed my cashouts from stars this year and i brought home really close to 5 figures which amazed me being i never played higher than 1/2 NL on there. i don't have much to show for it though as i put most of those winnings into my wedding in one way or the other and the rest went to pay off some debt or wile out like Nick Cannon.

stars sent me this sick ass email that had an attachment of all my transactions (cashout, deposit, transfer, bonuses etc.) for as long as my account has been active. it was really nice. it was funny to see that i had about 1K in deposits of $50 the first year that i played then something clicked and i haven't had a real deposit (other than a transfer via neteller) in 3 years. Without this forum and learning BR management this woulda never happened.
No_Neck
QUOTE (krup24 @ Thursday, January 3rd, 2008, 10:16 AM) *
Without this forum and learning BR management this woulda never happened.



Amen brother


congrats on the 5 figure year. I think I ended up making a Toyota corolla.


there is a guy named Justblz out there that basically taught me how to play poker. If you are lurking blaze thanks a lot.


Today it is 12 degrees out here. God damn it is cold.
krup24
wow i just reread DN's post on the Q8 hand. he shoulda left that in this forum i think we coulda got a great discussion going. like 5 dudes joined the forum just to post in that thread lol.
Naismith
QUOTE (krup24 @ Thursday, January 3rd, 2008, 11:34 AM) *
wow i just reread DN's post on the Q8 hand. he shoulda left that in this forum i think we coulda got a great discussion going. like 5 dudes joined the forum just to post in that thread lol.


It really is a shame it was moved. This forum could use a little more traffic and, I don't know, I kind of lost interest in it once it was moved. I know that's a silly reason, but whatever.

I do think it's a fold preflop, though. smile.gif
No_Neck
QUOTE (Naismith @ Thursday, January 3rd, 2008, 3:14 PM) *
It really is a shame it was moved. This forum could use a little more traffic and, I don't know, I kind of lost interest in it once it was moved. I know that's a silly reason, but whatever.

I do think it's a fold preflop, though. smile.gif



NIT!
rdtedm
QUOTE (Naismith @ Thursday, January 3rd, 2008, 1:14 PM) *
It really is a shame it was moved. This forum could use a little more traffic and, I don't know, I kind of lost interest in it once it was moved. I know that's a silly reason, but whatever.

I do think it's a fold preflop, though. smile.gif


Link?
tskillz187
I never saw the hand either. He said he put it in the strat forum and the regulars posted, which I thought would have been talked about in here. I look in strat forum and don't find it and no talk in here, til now. I'm assuming it was moved to his blog? I don't know though.
dms26
linkage
mtdesmoines
QUOTE (Naismith @ Thursday, January 3rd, 2008, 12:14 PM) *
I do think it's a fold preflop, though. smile.gif


QUOTE (No_Neck @ Thursday, January 3rd, 2008, 12:32 PM) *
NIT!


What year is it?
Acid_Knight
QUOTE (Naismith @ Thursday, January 3rd, 2008, 12:14 PM) *
It really is a shame it was moved. This forum could use a little more traffic and, I don't know, I kind of lost interest in it once it was moved. I know that's a silly reason, but whatever.

I do think it's a fold preflop, though. smile.gif

I got called a nit by a guy with 5 posts (all in that thread i think) for suggesting that folding Q8o out of the SB is the best play. As if they have no concept that 5-1 or 7-1 preflop pot odds doesn't mean that you win the pot 1 out of 5 times or 1 out fo 7 times.

****ing morons smile.gif
krup24
QUOTE (Naismith @ Thursday, January 3rd, 2008, 3:14 PM) *
It really is a shame it was moved. This forum could use a little more traffic and, I don't know, I kind of lost interest in it once it was moved. I know that's a silly reason, but whatever.

I do think it's a fold preflop, though. smile.gif


i am silly too then cause i didn't post in it once it was moved. i thought the hand was interesting and obv it came from DN. all the guys i respect were on the first two pages. then i opened up the NL forum and saw it was moved and instantly thought this is gonna get gay fast.

oh well i just thought it was a nice first for a strat post in our main forum to debate with DN cause i definitely think his play is questionable.

i do think the turn is a bet. preflop im undecided, slightly swayed by DN.
Naismith
Honestly, I think this might be profitable or might not be profitable for a world class player. I don't think 1) it's profitable for a good, winning player or 2) Daniel really knows whether he's profitable from the SB in these spots online.

I don't say that disrespectfully, obviously, but I doubt he knows whether he's winning or losing from the blinds; rather, since he's a winning player overall, it masks that leak. I might be wrong. I asked him if he had PT or was willing to try PT and he didn't respond.

Live, though, is entirely different and I have no doubt he can play junk OOP profitably.
David_Nicoson
QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Thursday, January 3rd, 2008, 4:26 PM) *
I got called a nit by a guy with 5 posts (all in that thread i think) for suggesting that folding Q8o out of the SB is the best play. As if they have no concept that 5-1 or 7-1 preflop pot odds doesn't mean that you win the pot 1 out of 5 times or 1 out fo 7 times.

Yeah, but it's 7:1.
David_Nicoson
QUOTE (Naismith @ Thursday, January 3rd, 2008, 8:34 PM) *
Honestly, I think this might be profitable or might not be profitable for a world class player. I don't think 1) it's profitable for a good, winning player or 2) Daniel really knows whether he's profitable from the SB in these spots online.

QFT
QUOTE
I don't say that disrespectfully, obviously, but I doubt he knows whether he's winning or losing from the blinds; rather, since he's a winning player overall, it masks that leak. I might be wrong. I asked him if he had PT or was willing to try PT and he didn't respond.
QFT
QUOTE
Live, though, is entirely different and I have no doubt he can play junk OOP profitably.

QFT
David_Nicoson
Why don't people on Who Wants to be a Millionaire get backers? It's an easy game when you're properly bankrolled.
No_Neck
QUOTE (David_Nicoson @ Thursday, January 3rd, 2008, 8:45 PM) *
Why don't people on Who Wants to be a Millionaire get backers? It's an easy game when you're properly bankrolled.



huh?

I have a feeling the joke went right over my head.
krup24
QUOTE (David_Nicoson @ Thursday, January 3rd, 2008, 8:45 PM) *
Why don't people on Who Wants to be a Millionaire get backers? It's an easy game when you're properly bankrolled.


yeah huh? you don't put up money to play.
David_Nicoson
QUOTE (krup24 @ Thursday, January 3rd, 2008, 8:52 PM) *
yeah huh? you don't put up money to play.

****. I mean the other one. Deal or No Deal.
krup24
QUOTE (David_Nicoson @ Thursday, January 3rd, 2008, 8:54 PM) *
****. I mean the other one. Deal or No Deal.


huh. you don't put up money to play.
David_Nicoson
QUOTE (krup24 @ Thursday, January 3rd, 2008, 8:55 PM) *
huh. you don't put up money to play.

OK, sorry for the senior moment. You're going on the the show and you know that the whole game has expectation E. They offer you a bunch of deals for D when your expectation at that moment is Eo with D < Eo. The players make a judgment based on their personal utility function.

Instead, before you go on the show, sell your friends shares so that you can play optimally with the knowledge that your payout is guaranteed.
krup24
QUOTE (David_Nicoson @ Thursday, January 3rd, 2008, 9:04 PM) *
OK, sorry for the senior moment. You're going on the the show and you know that the whole game has expectation E. They offer you a bunch of deals for D when your expectation at that moment is Eo with D < Eo. The players make a judgment based on their personal utility function.

Instead, before you go on the show, sell your friends shares so that you can play optimally with the knowledge that your payout is guaranteed.


lol now i get it
CobaltBlue
QUOTE (mtdesmoines @ Wednesday, January 2nd, 2008, 1:55 PM) *
Lie.

Not really. She's cute, no doubt. Have I contemplated sex with her? Nope.
David_Nicoson
rec.gambling.poker is going to hell. Look at this crap.

NLHE hand for discussion

What do I do with pocket aces here think about it.
No_Neck
QUOTE (David_Nicoson @ Thursday, January 3rd, 2008, 11:46 PM) *
rec.gambling.poker is going to hell. Look at this crap.

NLHE hand for discussion

What do I do with pocket aces here think about it.




newsgroups are sooooo 1989.

message boards are much better smile.gif
David_Nicoson
QUOTE (No_Neck @ Friday, January 4th, 2008, 12:07 AM) *
newsgroups are sooooo 1989.

message boards are much better smile.gif

The thing that's magic about usenet is that it's all archived and seachable plain text. Try to something from FCP from a couple years ago.

S/N is starting to suck pretty bad on this particular group.
NoBBiR
I won $$$ tonight playing live for the second time in a week! I must be breaking a trend.
tskillz187
I actually have a poker related question, so try not to be too angry. I just got Poker Tracker like a week ago and started playing online again, on Absolute, starting at $25nl. Weeee. Anyways, I have stats on about 5,000 hands and I want to see where I stand, some general leaks just by looking at stats.

I started as a rating of an Eagle, tight and aggressive, then Jay went over some hands with me and I decided to start isolating limpers more. This worked a lot and my winrate started to shoot up. I think I may have gone too far though, as my rating is now a bomb (ultra-aggressive)! When I used the PokerEV graph, I'm running very slightly bad, basically how I should run, but the numbers are negative! So basically I'm getting it in bad a decent bit, but still winning because of all the money I pick up w/o showdown.

Stats: 20.6/17.8/6.6. I'm kind of worried about my aggression factor. I'm not sure what aggression factor means, but the breakdown of my AF for flop, turn and river is 10.88, 4.33, and 1.88. Right now I'm running at about 8bb/100. Not sure if that's gonna come down or not.

Any insight is appreciated.
cwik
QUOTE (tskillz187 @ Thursday, January 3rd, 2008, 11:22 PM) *
I actually have a poker related question, so try not to be too angry. I just got Poker Tracker like a week ago and started playing online again, on Absolute, starting at $25nl. Weeee. Anyways, I have stats on about 5,000 hands and I want to see where I stand, some general leaks just by looking at stats.

I started as a rating of an Eagle, tight and aggressive, then Jay went over some hands with me and I decided to start isolating limpers more. This worked a lot and my winrate started to shoot up. I think I may have gone too far though, as my rating is now a bomb (ultra-aggressive)! When I used the PokerEV graph, I'm running very slightly bad, basically how I should run, but the numbers are negative! So basically I'm getting it in bad a decent bit, but still winning because of all the money I pick up w/o showdown.

Stats: 20.6/17.8/6.6. I'm kind of worried about my aggression factor. I'm not sure what aggression factor means, but the breakdown of my AF for flop, turn and river is 10.88, 4.33, and 1.88. Right now I'm running at about 8bb/100. Not sure if that's gonna come down or not.

Any insight is appreciated.


I read an article once that analyzed a bunch of datamined data from a bunch of different databases, to see what styles were the biggest winners/losers. slightly-loose aggressive and ultra-agressive where 1/2, followed by TAG (eagle)... calling stations and moneybags where last. Hope that helps.

Oh... and wow, your aggression numbers are sick high. My guess you are cbetting EVERY hand, and/or possibly donking OOP a lot too. Better players (probably at higher limits) will eventually be able to take advantage of this, but erroring on the aggressive side is usually not a huge leak. It is also good you are backing it up on the turn. From the looks of those numbers alone, my guess is you are a very annoying person to have to play against.
krup24
wow i just got to work an hr late. no more advil pm. i made up a story that i was rear ended by a Saab which did no damage to my SUV but the biotch wanted the police involved. fing women.
Andromeda
QUOTE (cwik @ Friday, January 4th, 2008, 6:51 AM) *
calling stations and moneybags were last.



you hear that No Neck??? bubble_lol.gif




How is everyone's 2008 so far? Mine is absolute garbage so I hope I'm getting it out of the way now or I'm in for a miserable ride. Since Jan 1, I haven't been able to sleep, I'm sick, and I just sprained my ankle this morning. Yay me!
Andromeda
QUOTE (krup24 @ Friday, January 4th, 2008, 9:05 AM) *
wow i just got to work an hr late. no more advil pm. i made up a story that i was rear ended by a Saab which did no damage to my SUV but the biotch wanted the police involved. fing women.



I was an hour and a half late today but I beat my boss in so as far as he knows I was here on time and leaving on time hehe
Temporary Nuts
QUOTE (CobaltBlue @ Thursday, January 3rd, 2008, 11:20 PM) *
Not really. She's cute, no doubt. Have I contemplated sex with her? Nope.


See a doctor smile.gif
Temporary Nuts
QUOTE (David_Nicoson @ Thursday, January 3rd, 2008, 11:46 PM) *


That was quite possibly the worst thing I've read in a looooong time.
mtdesmoines
QUOTE (Naismith @ Thursday, January 3rd, 2008, 5:34 PM) *
Honestly, I think this might be profitable or might not be profitable for a world class player. I don't think 1) it's profitable for a good, winning player or 2) Daniel really knows whether he's profitable from the SB in these spots online.

I don't say that disrespectfully, obviously, but I doubt he knows whether he's winning or losing from the blinds; rather, since he's a winning player overall, it masks that leak. I might be wrong. I asked him if he had PT or was willing to try PT and he didn't respond.

Live, though, is entirely different and I have no doubt he can play junk ATC OOP profitably.



QUOTE (CobaltBlue @ Thursday, January 3rd, 2008, 8:20 PM) *
Not really. She's cute, no doubt. Have I contemplated sex with her? Nope.


Cobalt ... I'm a little worried.

QUOTE (David_Nicoson @ Thursday, January 3rd, 2008, 8:46 PM) *
rec.gambling.poker is going to hell. Look at this crap.

NLHE hand for discussion

What do I do with pocket aces here think about it.


LOL ... I want my 15 seconds back.
krup24
OMG one of my coworkers just gave me tickets to the Stillerz game 12 rows of the field at the 40 yd line. sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.
Zach6668
QUOTE (David_Nicoson @ Thursday, January 3rd, 2008, 11:46 PM) *

I think my head just exploded.
mtdesmoines
QUOTE (krup24 @ Friday, January 4th, 2008, 7:04 AM) *
OMG one of my coworkers just gave me tickets to the Stillerz game 12 rows of the field at the 40 yd line. sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.



Sweet. Now if they only weren't playing Jacksonville.
krup24
QUOTE (mtdesmoines @ Friday, January 4th, 2008, 10:28 AM) *
Sweet. Now if they only weren't playing NE next week.


fyp
No_Neck
so wait what? you get ticket to where? In Jacksonville or do you go to the Steelers stadium and watch on the jumbotron?

QUOTE (Andromeda @ Friday, January 4th, 2008, 9:09 AM) *
you hear that No Neck??? bubble_lol.gif


people want to give me monies I will gladly accept it.
mtdesmoines
QUOTE (krup24 @ Friday, January 4th, 2008, 7:35 AM) *
fyp



The Jags organization was constructed to compete with and beat the Steelers. Even after the realignment and leaving the AFC Central, Jax has lost none of that core philosophy, and are probably the one team in the league that best matches up with the Steelers, position for position.

I really wish the Steelers had won Sunday, and sent the Jags to NE. Jax is one of a couple teams in the league right now that can beat NE.

It was nice we made the playoffs and it has been a good year, but we're outmanned and spinning downward, not peaking and fast willie busted his leg and Ben is hurting.

Good first year for a new coach, but losing the last game and lining up to play Jax and NE was a disaster.
Andromeda
QUOTE (No_Neck @ Friday, January 4th, 2008, 10:40 AM) *
people want to give me monies I will gladly accept it.



I seem to be the only one you lose to then icon_cool.gif

blessed be my min-raise icon_dance.gif
Andromeda
QUOTE (mtdesmoines @ Friday, January 4th, 2008, 10:42 AM) *
Jax is one of a couple teams in the league right now that can beat NE.



except it's January and New England - not sunny florida! I do have to appreciate Jax for their running game but I just think the Pats will be too dominant for them over the full 4 quarters.
mtdesmoines
QUOTE (No_Neck @ Friday, January 4th, 2008, 7:40 AM) *
so wait what? you get ticket to where? In Jacksonville or do you go to the Steelers stadium and watch on the jumbotron?


http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/matchup?game...amp;week=POST18
krup24
QUOTE (No_Neck @ Friday, January 4th, 2008, 10:40 AM) *
so wait what? you get ticket to where? In Jacksonville or do you go to the Steelers stadium and watch on the jumbotron?


no dopey the game is in Pittsburgh
Acid_Knight
Naismith, I see you in here.

What are we doing about the Giants/TB game?
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