it was probably the boss anyways!

FWIW, I'm loling at this topic and getting weird looks... it's one of those half laughs that you try to suppress but can't

i don't know we have this older fellow who everyone says has clogged the toilet before because they say he eat alot of fiber?

whatever, the turd is so gross. i just hope i don't get blamed for it cause i went in there 3x in the last 20 mins to see if it was gone.

i think i'm gonna choose option 3 and wait 15 more mins to lunch.

fucking sloppy joes

Get teh plunger and get to work

what about sending an email to just the guys and telling whoever the jerk is to clean it up?

Andromeda, the people in here are a little friendlier than the donks in General. Do you understand why that one hand is always a shove and never a check through?

EDIT: Sorry to interrupt what was a compelling conversation.

I've been on enough forums to not take anything personally


Do I understand it? Yes and no - it just seems to me like even though if 1 out of 1,000,000 hands a solid player effs up and folds/misclicks, why put extra chips in the pot if I don't have to? The reason I opt for the check is because I would just end up getting the chips I put into the pot back. In the effort to get someone to be a nit and fold, I don't really see this being necessary long term.

am I not making any sense though? I kinda feel like everyone thinks there is no logic to what I am saying. There is no -EV here, only +EV IF they're dumb enough to fold - I give my home game peeps more credit than that I guess.

Can I get a link to this hand?

http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...howtopic=113656

i tried to plunge it. honestly i went in for at least six plunges. flush and nothing but water in bowl getting very high. i went at lunch at the chinese buffet with all kinda chinese writing (gang signs) on the walls. i feel better.

what hand are we talking about

Yup, tourney it's always a shove, cash game always check-call. If the board shows the nuts in holdem, and you don't have to worry about rake, just do something to try to get them to fold... you can never be hurt by going all in there and can only be helped.

well then we obviously bet/shove here right?

Ed Zachary

I personally don't know much about tournament playing so good to know!





good call, it doesn't hurt either way (check it down or bet/call/shove).



still got so much to learn, this game is tough

anyone want to mentor me? lol

No we never check this ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever

got it

yes, what I meant by that is that since the worst that can happen is the split, the result is the same whether it's a check or a shove - so might as well shove.

LOL. I've only played about 60 hours since yesterday. How is that not giving up poker?

Also, how's the maple syrup-eating, Penguin-cheering, Labatt-guzzling surly moderator from Lakehead doing?

indeed - he hasn't stopped by to berate me about my check vs. raise when playing the board situation yet. so unlike him...

I saw him for liek 5 mins last night while he and mike were gonna go and play 3 card poker but didn't want to dole out $15 min per hand at Caesar's.

I'm picking them both up tomorrow after work and we're gonna go play at Red Rock.

Andromeda, think of it like this, there is no advantage to checking, but there is a small advantage to betting. Even if your opponent only folds as a misclick, you make more money than if you just check.

This is always true in a tourney.

Guys in general are generally douche bags overall, fyi.

Obviously if you're playing someone you know knows what they're doing then shoving does nothing.

Yes it does. This is not being douchey. If they only ever fold on a misclick, your still making money.

Admittedly it might .2 of 1 chip, but it's still +EV to shove. You should always do this in a tourney, there is not one good reason not to.

guys, I GET IT

I don't play much online, mainly a home game amongst friends - and I have never played a tournament.

@ min_falcon, but there is no disadvantage to checking as you wouldn't lose any money in the pot. I now understand what everyone is saying and to take a neutral EV instead of a +EV is not the right decision. This is why I signed up, obviously I've got a long way to go in my game and I'm trying to learn. I look at this as a good thing - I am open and willing to discuss it, even if it makes me look like a fool/donkey/fish.

@NoBBiR - As for the guys in general - I've experienced worse than them, little fish in the big pond of internet forums. The annoying part is no one was reading what I wrote, just what I said vs. what the original post was - in this case, my mistake of trying to compare a online tourney hand to a live cash game hand - obvious differences that I was just not paying attention to.

ez boys, gonna go watch TV with the gf and eat dinner - talk to you in the AM!

Does anyone know why House is the best show on TV? Is it just Hugh Laurie, or something else I can't quite put my finger on?



I was talking about live, I just forgot to put that in my post because I'm retarded.

And I wasn't talking about you, you might post in General, but I wouldn't know, I never go there anymore.

don't start, it drives you insane. I've gotten all in with dominating hands the last 5 SNG's I've played when I busted.

I went on a date tonight with an 18-year-old. I'm very much trying to decide how big of an issue the age difference is.

LOL.

Tell us more.

If she's hot, there is no issue.

She's quite cute. And, she's one of the most intelligent girls I've ever met.

I was gonna type something helpful but I'm deciding on "GL" instead.

it probably won't work out, but enjoy it while it lasts

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Don't ruin it for him!
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(He's right)

Good luck Colbat. I know you have quite a screening process so she must be an amazing girl.


Also we need pics

i've found that if you tell her that you are somewhat of a big deal on an internet poker forum that the clothes come flying off.

gl sir, very jealous

do you guarantee that?
















see what I did there? GO PATS!

Jessica Alba is pregnant

Booo. I wanted to be the one to accomplish that!

I hate to really burst your bubble, but if you did manage to get pregnant before her, you still wouldn't have been the first.

But on the flip side you avoided the herp.

That's quite possibly the most disturbing, awful news ever.



Do you honestly think that the threat of the herp would stop any normal man from putting it in Alba? I don't believe so. I know that I'd take the herp for that.

I have a profound fear of STDs and purposely only stick it in women where my risk is next to nothing. There are guys who sleep with anything that moves and even some things that don't. Let me just say that if I were ever gonna get herpes from someone, it'd be an honor to have that someone be Jessica Alba.


This is possibly the most disturbing post I've ever made.

Alright, this is coming from a guy who has never dated anyone over the age of 19... no srsly...

Even if she seems intelligent, the missing life experience will make her seem dumb as hell at inopportune times. If she's 18 she knows nothing of the real world... so trying to take anything seriously, even a conversation, will be difficult to manage at best.

That being said...

Drink, smoke, and fuck, and it all stops mattering... as long as she isn't so inexperienced that she lays there like a fish.

God I hate virgins.

This is actually along the lines of what I was gonna say Cobalt. Think of all of the things that you've done in your life and the places that you've gone and how all of those experiences have affected you. She has none of that. She may be very intelligent and adapt well to situations, but for a guy like you, I think that the fact that she's missing those experiences will make her unappealing to you for any kind of long term commitments regardless of how cute and smart she is.

That being said, everyone is different. Maybe she is remarkably mature and well rounded. Either way, good luck.

Chances are you're going to get teh herp at some point anyway. Even if you're 40 and married, at some point you're gonna cheat on your wife with a hooker, or your wife is gonna have an extra-marital and get teh herp herself.

As you get older, your c0ck is gonna itch, and you're gonna have to buy some cream. Just don't get teh AIDS.

And no, I don't have an STD... yet (and honestly, I really prolly should have contracted one by now).

Ok, this is the most distrubing post ever.

Well played, well played.

Cobalt, the point of hanging out with 18 year olds is because they are naive, unintelligent, and love older guys. You picked the wrong one, dude.

Maybe she'll be cool and it'll work out. I kind of disgaree with Matt and Temporary, but then again - I like 18 year olds Honestly, I have made some good friends, had some good conversations, and probably become a lot more jaded about life since I'm 18, not too much that has completely changed me as a person though. Just some people I'm very happy I met. So basically, if she's a cool person etc, that isn't going to change whether she's 18 or 30 (but her figure sure as shit will,) so good luck etc.

So I made my fantasy football playoffs. 4 teams make it and I'm 4th. Only 1st and 2nd make money so I need to win this round. I'm playing against my best friend and would like nothing more than to pull the upset.

My team: Palmer, A. Johnson, Branch, Marshall (possibly Hackett over Branch if he's playing), Tomlinson, Graham (Lynch, but Graham has been sexy recently and I'm gonna ride him out), I picked up Owen Daniels at TE, SEA d v Carolina, and right now Lindell v Cle at K but I might change that to some free agent kicker like Bryant against ATL.

His team: Favre, TO, Houz, Holt, J. Lewis, Jones-Drew, Gonzalez, GB D v STL, Gostkowski v Jets.

I think I'm a pretty good underdog. I brought out my secret weapon today though. And gave a speech to my team.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO4tIrjBDkk

Then I addressed each starter individually to tell them how big the game was:

Palmer - If you weren't the only QB on my team I'd think about benching you. You better show me something against the piece of shit 49ers. Preferably not through Houzy.

LT - You're the team. We need you for victory.

Graham - You're the best RB no one knows about. Keep doing your thing.

Andre - I took a gamble on you when you were injured. I need you to show up for your biggest game of the year right now! Champ can't hang with you.

Branch - WTF have you been doing? You know if Hackett is healthy I'ma bench you quick. If not, you better get some god damn looks. Get open and fucking score, you're supposed to be quick!

Marshall - I'll never sit you again. You are a gamer, I know you're gonna deliver.

Daniels - I don't really know who you are, but if Andre is getting locked down (in double coverage obviously, cuz Champ can't hang with him) then you're gonna get some red zone looks and I need you!

Kicker - Right now it's you Lindell. I'ma be honest though, you might not be here come game time. If you are, you already know that I'm the true Billiever! I got you and Marshawn on the squad, that poser doesn't have a Bill on his squad.

(team I'm playing against is named "Billiever$"

Sea D - Step it up again just like last week! Trufant that was a huge INT you brought back for the score, we need you again.

LET'S FUCKIN GET ITTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!

An honor? That would be like my crowning achievement.