Andromeda
Wednesday, November 7th, 2007, 9:54 AM
here's one for you Nate: When the University of Nebraska Cornhuskers play football at home, the stadium becomes the state's third largest city.
No_Neck
Wednesday, November 7th, 2007, 10:11 AM
QUOTE (Andromeda @ Wednesday, November 7th, 2007, 12:54 PM)

here's one for you Nate: When the University of Nebraska Cornhuskers play football at home, the stadium becomes the state's third largest city.
lol and they get crushed
krup24
Wednesday, November 7th, 2007, 10:17 AM
QUOTE (No_Neck @ Wednesday, November 7th, 2007, 12:51 PM)

any more interesting facts anyone? Krup I am l looking at you.
Polar bears are left-handed.
No_Neck
Wednesday, November 7th, 2007, 10:24 AM
QUOTE (krup24 @ Wednesday, November 7th, 2007, 1:17 PM)

Polar bears are left-handed.
Did a little fact checking on Krups fact, it is true.
Look what I also found The origin of the term "Southpaw"
Southpaw
Southpaw has its origins in 1880s' baseball slang. Baseball diamonds were often arranged so the batters would face east, to avoid looking into the afternoon sun. The pitcher's left hand, or paw, would therefore be on the southern side.
Andromeda
Wednesday, November 7th, 2007, 10:27 AM
In 1845 Boston had an ordinance banning bathing unless you had a doctor's prescription.
No_Neck
Wednesday, November 7th, 2007, 10:29 AM
Vermont fun facts
Vermont was the first state admitted to the Union after the ratification of the Constitution.
With a population of fewer than nine thousand people, Montpelier, Vermont is the smallest state capital in the U.S.
Montpelier, Vermont is the only U.S. state capital without a McDonalds.
In ratio of cows to people, Vermont has the greatest number of dairy cows in the country.
Montpelier, Is the largest producer of maple syrup in the U.S.
Vermont’s largest employer isn’t Ben and Jerry’s, it’s IBM.
Until recently, the only way a Vermonter could get a drivers license with their photo on it was to drive to Montpelier.
Vermont was, at various times, claimed by both New Hampshire and New York.
Until 1996, Vermont was the only state without a Wal-Mart.
Ben & Jerry’s Ice Cream company gives their ice cream waste to the local Vermont farmers who use it to feed their hogs. The hogs seem to like all of the flavors except Mint Oreo.
Rudyard Kipling, living in Vermont in the 1890’s invented the game of snow golf.
Vermont’s state capitol building is one of only a few to have a gold dome. Atop the dome is a statue of Ceres.
Andromeda
Wednesday, November 7th, 2007, 10:32 AM
QUOTE (No_Neck @ Wednesday, November 7th, 2007, 1:29 PM)

Montpelier, Vermont is the only U.S. state capital without a McDonalds.
I think everyone has heard this one!
No_Neck
Wednesday, November 7th, 2007, 10:36 AM
QUOTE (Andromeda @ Wednesday, November 7th, 2007, 1:32 PM)

I think everyone has heard this one!
as of two years ago they have 0 fast food chains of any kind, no burger king, mcdonalds, wendys or even a damn subway.
dms26
Wednesday, November 7th, 2007, 11:45 AM
QUOTE (Andromeda @ Wednesday, November 7th, 2007, 1:27 PM)

In 1845 Boston had an ordinance banning bathing unless you had a doctor's prescription.
Most ridiculous British law:
1. It is illegal to die in the Houses of Parliament (27 percent)
2. It is an act of treason to place a postage stamp bearing the British monarch upside-down (seven percent)
3. In Liverpool, it is illegal for a woman to be topless except as a clerk in a tropical fish store (six percent)
4. Mince pies cannot be eaten on Christmas Day (five percent)
5. In Scotland, if someone knocks on your door and requires the use of your toilet, you must let them enter (four percent)
6. A pregnant woman can legally relieve herself anywhere she wants, including in a policeman's helmet (four percent)
7. The head of any dead whale found on the British coast automatically becomes the property of the king, and the tail of the queen (3.5 percent)
8. It is illegal to avoid telling the tax man anything you do not want him to know, but legal not to tell him information you do not mind him knowing (three percent)
9. It is illegal to enter the Houses of Parliament in a suit of armour (three percent)
10. In the city of York it is legal to murder a Scotsman within the ancient city walls, but only if he is carrying a bow and arrow (two percent)
mtdesmoines
Wednesday, November 7th, 2007, 12:06 PM
QUOTE (Temporary Nuts @ Wednesday, November 7th, 2007, 7:15 AM)

Thank God for heads up SNG's. People play with their freaking cards face up in those I swear.
Your welcome for that little tip. Let's keep it our secret, though, ok?
No_Neck
Wednesday, November 7th, 2007, 12:08 PM
In Scotland, if someone knocks on your door and requires the use of your toilet, you must let them enter (four percent)
6. A pregnant woman can legally relieve herself anywhere she wants, including in a policeman's helmet (four percent)
those are two great rules.
CobaltBlue
Wednesday, November 7th, 2007, 9:26 PM
Played for nickels with friends in Spring 2004...then for play money online that summer. Threw $25 on Bodog that fall and was lucky to never go broke. Pretty crazy to have turned that $25 into $90k at this point. Probably averaged about 24 hours (mostly online) per week over that span.
Temporary Nuts
Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 7:21 AM
QUOTE (CobaltBlue @ Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 12:26 AM)

Played for nickels with friends in Spring 2004...then for play money online that summer. Threw $25 on Bodog that fall and was lucky to never go broke. Pretty crazy to have turned that $25 into $90k at this point. Probably averaged about 24 hours (mostly online) per week over that span.
I'd say you're right on pace
NoBBiR
Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 7:25 AM
QUOTE (Andromeda @ Wednesday, November 7th, 2007, 9:54 AM)

here's one for you Nate: When the University of Nebraska Cornhuskers play football at home, the stadium becomes the state's third largest city.
When the University of Nebraska Cornhuskers play football at home, the stadium becomes the state's third largest city. Then at the end of the third quarter it becomes the state's 7,059th largest city, FTW.
QUOTE (CobaltBlue @ Wednesday, November 7th, 2007, 9:26 PM)

Played for nickels with friends in Spring 2004...then for play money online that summer. Threw $25 on Bodog that fall and was lucky to never go broke. Pretty crazy to have turned that $25 into $90k at this point. Probably averaged about 24 hours (mostly online) per week over that span.
I just wish I wasn't an online spew factory sometimes.
I was even playing 5x your stakes, for QUARTERS, with friends in spring 2004. Now I have 0 online, not to mention the 350 I've blown over that time periodically trying to form an online roll. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Andromeda
Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 8:07 AM
so what seems to be everyone's (except for Nate obviously) challenge with the online game? Seems like those of you who are good live struggle online.
mtdesmoines
Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 8:16 AM
QUOTE (Andromeda @ Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 8:07 AM)

so what seems to be everyone's (except for Nate obviously) challenge with the online game? Seems like those of you who are good live struggle online.
I struggle with patience in cash games online.
That's why I play HU tourneys and short-handed turbos sngs.
I seem to excel at those.
David_Nicoson
Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 8:44 AM
I'm thinking that I'd like to see some online poker videos done by my respected peers.
Zach "XAQ" Morphy did some
PLO videos in his usual clown style, which I enjoyed. I imagining someone (e.g., Acid Knight, nudge, nudge) taking this a little more seriously, and it sounds pretty compelling to me.
Andromeda
Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 9:00 AM
Top 10 Bad Things That Are Good For You according to Livescience.com
10. Beer
The newest bad kid on the block, beer has long been overshadowed by its healthier alcoholic cousins. While no one's suggesting you switch that glass of antioxidant-rich Pinot Noir for a tall glass of lager--there's still that beer gut to worry about--new research has suggested that moderate beer intake can actually improve cardiovascular function. Now if only a scientist will discover the health benefits of ballpark franks and chicken wings. Heaven.
9.Anger
If you're one of those people who tends to bottle things up, only to explode ... don't hold it in so long. Studies show that bursts of anger here and there are good for the health, and can be an even more effective coping mechanism than becoming afraid, irritated or disgusted. Anger, like the consumables in this list, however, is best in moderation: stay angry for long periods of time and you'll be plagued with a host of health issues, like blood pressure, sleep disorders and lung damage.
8. Coffee
Java is one of the most debated substances around. Is it good for you? Is it bad for you? Both? The consensus, now anyways, seems to favor those who enjoy their morning jolt--unrelated studies claim coffee is a major source of antioxidants in our diet and can help lower your risk of diabetes. Something in the beans is also thought to ease the onset of cirrhosis of the liver and pancreatitis, good news for those who like to party hard all night before their morning caffeine boost.
7. LSD
We're definitely not in the business of advocating drug use. But check out this interesting science: In heavy drinkers, small doses of LSD have been thought to help bypass the rock-bottom stage of alcoholism and prevent relapses. These studies--some decades old--were done in closely monitored, clinical settings; many patients haven't had a drink in the many years since. It's an interesting finding that needs a lot more investigation, and not a remedy that should ever be tried at home. Meantime--and this may come as no surprise--a recent study of 36 volunteers who took an LSD-like drug in a lab setting had them reporting mystical experiences and behavior changes that lasted for weeks.
6. Sunlight
Exposure to the sun's rays is necessary to survive, but can also kill you in gross, cancerous quantities. Asthmatics, at least, could benefit from measured doses of ultraviolet rays, according to scientists. Sunlight suppressed the immune reactions that cause asthma in some lab studies with mice and could be used to treat humans afflicted with the disease in the future. And sunlight--even if indirect, such as on a shaded porch--is known to boost the mood. Extra sunlight can help office workers avoid afternoon drowsiness, a recent study found. There's still no excuse to head outside and bake, however.
5. Maggots
They're creepy, slimy and altogether ooky, but maggots can save your life. These squirmy larvae are science's newest wonder-cure and were approved in 2003 as the Food & Drug Administration's only live medical device. Placed on serious wounds, maggots mimic their "wild" lifestyle and munch on bacteria and dead tissue, stimulating healing and helping to prevent infection.
4. Marijuana
It's medicinal, we swear! Marijuana, often associated with memory loss, is ironically now being hyped as a way to stave off the ultimate form of memory loss--Alzheimer's. Recent studies on mice suggest that anti-inflammatories found in the drug prevent the clumping of brain proteins, one major cause of the disease. So when should you start preventative therapy? We suggest waiting for the human studies to wrap up.
3. Red Wine
A crucial ingredient in the diets of the world's heart-healthiest populations--like those Bordeaux-guzzling French--red wine has long been known to have potent anti-cancer and artery-protecting benefits. The key, some studies indicate, is an antioxidant found specifically in the skin of red wine grapes, called resveratrol. The latest studies even link resveratrol to greater endurance, a reduction in gum disease and Alzheimer's. White wine, which is fermented after the skins are removed, is less beneficial according to some studies
2. Chocolate
Chocolate lovers rejoice: study after study lately has touted the magical benefits of the indulgent treat, which is packed with the antioxidant flavonols that prevent certain cancers and keep your arteries from clogging. The most recent news? These powerful chemicals may even increase blood flow to the brain, warding off dementia. Just stick to the highest cocoa content possible--the bars packed with sugar don't help your health one bit.
1. Sex
Scientists have found that the benefits of sex go beyond immediate, ahem, gratification and satisfying the goal of procreation. Besides the obvious evolutionary purposes, we can all take pleasure in the news that having sex is an easy way to reduce stress, lower cholesterol and improve circulation throughout the body. As if you needed another excuse.
NoBBiR
Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 9:16 AM
QUOTE (Andromeda @ Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 8:07 AM)

so what seems to be everyone's (except for Nate obviously) challenge with the online game? Seems like those of you who are good live struggle online.
Personally I pride myself on being a good live player. I've taken shots at online from time to time but I really think that it takes away some of my best abilities to be a winning player while sitting directly in front of people.
I'm a lively sort of entertainment at the table. It both helps lighten me up and not to be such scared money, but it loosens people up at the table more, making them give off tells more readily and I've even seen people avoid me because they like the conversation at the previously quiet mundane table.
I'm a decent reader of peoples hands, but I'm pretty spot on in strength/weakness analysis. I know when to abandon ship and when to stay aboard when playing live. However, I think while playing online that I do not focus enough or utilize this skill well enough to be profitable. I find myself paying people off on the river when I know I'm beat just because I want to see what they sucked out on me with so I can bemoan my bad luck and how ridiculous online poker is. I think it's a sickness.
/brag
tskillz187
Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 10:32 AM
I mean the real reason most of us play better live is the competition is far worse.
Other factors: I pay attention at the live table, I only play when I want to (because I have to drive there), live tells.
Online play focuses a ton of preflop aggression, whereas live is very loose passive, you can basically limp every hand live at 5-10nl and lower and still do okay if you have solid postflop skills because other people suck, don't punish you for limping, and stack off lighter.
Acid_Knight
Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 10:50 AM
QUOTE (David_Nicoson @ Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 8:44 AM)

I'm thinking that I'd like to see some online poker videos done by my respected peers.
Zach "XAQ" Morphy did some
PLO videos in his usual clown style, which I enjoyed. I imagining someone (e.g., Acid Knight, nudge, nudge) taking this a little more seriously, and it sounds pretty compelling to me.
Can you give me a rundown of what this is and why you reference me since I'm at work and can't watch these right now?
tskillz187
Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 10:51 AM
QUOTE (Andromeda @ Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 10:00 AM)

1. Sex
Scientists have found that the benefits of sex go beyond immediate, ahem, gratification and satisfying the goal of procreation. Besides the obvious evolutionary purposes, we can all take pleasure in the news that having sex is an easy way to reduce stress, lower cholesterol and improve circulation throughout the body. As if you needed another excuse.
Just three more ways people can identify that I don't get any.
tskillz187
Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 10:52 AM
QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 11:50 AM)

Can you give me a rundown of what this is and why you reference me since I'm at work and can't watch these right now?
I think it's like Cardrunners.
I also think he foolishly assumes you play well and can learn something from watching you and hearing your thought process
Acid_Knight
Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 10:55 AM
QUOTE (tskillz187 @ Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 10:32 AM)

Online play focuses a ton of preflop aggression, whereas live is very loose passive, you can basically limp every hand live at 5-10nl and lower and still do okay if you have solid postflop skills because other people suck, don't punish you for limping, and stack off lighter.
I'll be the first to admit that live poker is so much easier than online (not online 2 years ago, but online now) becuase the players really do suck. There were so many fundamental flaws in my game playing 5/10 NL live that I knew about (ie, EP hand selection and limp/calling raises) but that didn't matter because my postflop skills and the general ineptitude of my opponents cancelled it all out.
It wasn't like I didn't know how to play good positional poker, it was just that I didn't have to put it into practice because I could win without it. Playing the last 20k hands online, I stopped making those stupid "I'm gonna ignore my position" type of plays after the first few thousand hands becuase it became blatantly obvious that you can't win doing that crap online.
In summation: Live is easier becuase people are too passive preflop and let you see the flop to cheaply and then make HUGE mistakes after you've made your hand which allows you to continue to make the smaller mistakes as long as their mistakes continue to be greater than your mistakes.
Acid_Knight
Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 10:56 AM
QUOTE (tskillz187 @ Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 10:52 AM)

I think it's like Cardrunners.
I also think he foolishly assumes you play well and can learn something from watching you and hearing your thought process

So, the videos are actually supposed to be helpful or it's a big joke?
Temporary Nuts
Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 11:11 AM
Where the hell are these games that are so passive preflop?
Every casino I've gone down to in AC like 9 out of 10 hands get raised preflop, and the standard open raise is gianormous... like 6-7 BB's
And all my friends raise like... everything preflop in the dumbass home games we play.
I find preflop play to be softer in online play... people refuse to go beyond a three bet even with aces and kings.
Acid_Knight
Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 11:25 AM
QUOTE (Temporary Nuts @ Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 11:11 AM)

Where the hell are these games that are so passive preflop?
Every casino I've gone down to in AC like 9 out of 10 hands get raised preflop, and the standard open raise is gianormous... like 6-7 BB's
And all my friends raise like... everything preflop in the dumbass home games we play.
I find preflop play to be softer in online play... people refuse to go beyond a three bet even with aces and kings.
Yeah, people might raise preflop, but a TON more people limp and hardly nobody reraises without a real hand. The way people react to bullies who are raising too much is to call preflop, call flop, call turn and call river. It's pretty gay.
simo_8ball
Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 11:35 AM
QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 7:25 PM)

The way people react to bullies who are raising too much is to call preflop, call flop, call turn and call river. It's pretty gay.
Yep.
Standard thing is that you c/bet the flop, and then when he calls you think he was floating you, so you fire the turn. When he calls you're done with the hand, except on the river:
1) The draw hits, so you fire out to represent it. He calls because he had the draw.
or
2) The draw misses, so you fire out again because he is now folding his busted draw. He calls because he had top pair.
tskillz187
Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 11:36 AM
QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 12:25 PM)

Yeah, people might raise preflop, but a TON more people limp and hardly nobody reraises without a real hand. The way people react to bullies who are raising too much is to call preflop, call flop, call turn and call river. It's pretty gay.
It's pretty awesome.
I strongly believe that getting a foundation in live play stunted my growth as a poker player huge. My preflop game was soooooo bad because of all the bad habits I learned live. There simply aren't the implied odds online that are there live and it definitely hurt me.
And I agree with the post above, except it's not gay, it's glorious. The 3-betting and 4-betting preflop online just doesn't exist live (at least not where I've played), and it makes the game much tougher to control. Basically I'd give the advantage to any winning $50 max player over a 2-5nl live table.
I guess to close out my piece for Andromeda, the success doesn't correlate because the game is tougher. If all of us could beat 3-6, 5-10 online we'd be playing it and beating it. That's not to say that I don't think any of us can. I'll speak for myself and say I would lose at $600max 6 max online. I have a winning record over a small sample at $1000max but I highly doubt it would have staying power.
Look at the people in the challenge thread. There are some very sound players in there, players that if they contributed to the strat forum would bring the talent level up a ton here. Look at their HH, a lot of the very good players are playing anywhere from $200-$600 max. The games are just tough. Those guys would all be huge favorites in a 5-10live setting.
tskillz187
Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 11:38 AM
While I'm on my rant - preflop play is so huge online that it's insane. I can't believe how important that street is and how generally overlooked it is by most players. It's super hard to overcome preflop leaks.
I think I'm a very sound post flop player and I would struggle at low limits because my preflop game was wayyyyy too passive. Just because I was used to making up that money by stacking someone when I hit or got a big hand. Those opportunities are not as frequent online if you are playing passive. The pot is just too small because of no preflop action.
Acid_Knight
Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 11:44 AM
QUOTE (simo_8ball @ Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 11:35 AM)

Yep.
Standard thing is that you c/bet the flop, and then when he calls you think he was floating you, so you fire the turn. When he calls you're done with the hand, except on the river:
1) The draw hits, so you fire out to represent it. He calls because he had the draw.
or
2) The draw misses, so you fire out again because he is now folding his busted draw. He calls because he had top pair.
or
3) The draw hits, so you fire out to represent it. He calls because he had top pair.
FYP
simo_8ball
Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 11:45 AM
QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 7:44 PM)

FYP
Oops, forgot that one.
Acid_Knight
Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 12:42 PM
QUOTE (David_Nicoson @ Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 8:44 AM)

I'm thinking that I'd like to see some online poker videos done by my respected peers.
Zach "XAQ" Morphy did some
PLO videos in his usual clown style, which I enjoyed. I imagining someone (e.g., Acid Knight, nudge, nudge) taking this a little more seriously, and it sounds pretty compelling to me.
Ok, I went home at Lunch at watched the first one of those, which was hilarious.
I think if I did it, I'd probably be doing the same thing he did. I dunno. Is that a simple thing to set up or no?
No_Neck
Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 2:27 PM

month so far. Meh...
CobaltBlue
Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 4:11 PM
I wish I knew why I sucked playing live.
Part of me feels like I run horrendously. I know I've been oversetted 4 times live...and I don't think I've ever oversetted anyone. I've also only cashed in like 2/30 live tournaments I've played. I mean, I guess a big part of that is sample size, but it drives me nuts, cause I know the games are beatable.
I recently read "Bigger Deal" by Tony Holden...he kept talking about how he'd sit down in 2/5 and 5/10 NL live games and consistently pick up a buyin or two over a few hours...and from his writing, he doesn't sound like a very "good" player. That knowledge really frustrated me.
David_Nicoson
Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 4:23 PM
QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 3:42 PM)

I think if I did it, I'd probably be doing the same thing he did. I dunno. Is that a simple thing to set up or no?
I dunno. I'm playing around with ultravnc recorder to see if can get it to work.
Zach6668
Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 6:14 PM
Camtasia or something like that.
Temporary Nuts
Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 6:39 PM
QUOTE (David_Nicoson @ Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 7:23 PM)

I dunno. I'm playing around with ultravnc recorder to see if can get it to work.
http://www.debugmode.com/wink/It's free (open source). It's still "beta", but so is google heh.
I use wink at work. Not sure what video format you're working with, but if you're planning on posting it on your own webspae it can automatically set it up in flash, including the html page. I think it might support others but I really haven't had the need.
You can also use it to make a pdf file frame by frame, if you wanted that for whatever reason

I haven't tried it for anything longer than 15 minutes, but it's really solid and the frame by frame editor is really easy to use. It includes timing bars if you want to freeze on a frame, placeable notes, and a bunch of other features I haven't got around to trying out. I believe you can overlay audio with it too. The hot button start/stop record is nice too

It took me all of 10 minutes to learn and I was flying around... and didn't have to open the help file it's pretty intuitive.
No_Neck
Friday, November 9th, 2007, 6:45 AM
Anyone from here going to Foxwoods this weekend? FCP meet up baby.
David_Nicoson
Friday, November 9th, 2007, 7:07 AM
QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 1:55 PM)

I'll be the first to admit that live poker is so much easier than online (not online 2 years ago, but online now) becuase the players really do suck. There were so many fundamental flaws in my game playing 5/10 NL live that I knew about (ie, EP hand selection and limp/calling raises) but that didn't matter because my postflop skills and the general ineptitude of my opponents cancelled it all out.
That's easy enough to fix. Do you think the live preflop "mistakes" were actually losing you money overall, or were you still making money on those hands? That is, if you tighten all up from on-line and bring that style back to your 5/10, what happens to your expectation?
Oh, and we're conflating live with casino here in a big way. Many of the underground games are tough as hell after midnight, when all the fools have gone broke. *sniff* I miss those guys.
Temporary Nuts
Friday, November 9th, 2007, 7:16 AM
QUOTE (David_Nicoson @ Friday, November 9th, 2007, 10:07 AM)

That's easy enough to fix. Do you think the live preflop "mistakes" were actually losing you money overall, or were you still making money on those hands? That is, if you tighten all up from on-line and bring that style back to your 5/10, what happens to your expectation?
I tried playing online style TAG at a live cash game all of once... every pot I took down was uncontested except when I had to c-c the nut straight in a multiway pot on a paired, 3 flush board. Sure it was profitable, but people stopped leaking to me postflop *and* my threebets preflop were *never* called, which kind of sucks.
mtdesmoines
Friday, November 9th, 2007, 7:20 AM
QUOTE (Temporary Nuts @ Friday, November 9th, 2007, 7:16 AM)

I tried playing online style TAG at a live cash game all of once... every pot I took down was uncontested except when I had to c-c the nut straight in a multiway pot on a paired, 3 flush board. Sure it was profitable, but people stopped leaking to me postflop *and* my threebets preflop were *never* called, which kind of sucks.
You gotta give action to get it.
Acid_Knight
Friday, November 9th, 2007, 7:22 AM
QUOTE (mtdesmoines @ Friday, November 9th, 2007, 7:20 AM)

You gotta give action to get it.
Not online.
mtdesmoines
Friday, November 9th, 2007, 7:22 AM
QUOTE (CobaltBlue @ Thursday, November 8th, 2007, 4:11 PM)

I wish I knew why I sucked playing live.
Part of me feels like I run horrendously. I know I've been oversetted 4 times live...and I don't think I've ever oversetted anyone. I've also only cashed in like 2/30 live tournaments I've played. I mean, I guess a big part of that is sample size, but it drives me nuts, cause I know the games are beatable.
I recently read "Bigger Deal" by Tony Holden...he kept talking about how he'd sit down in 2/5 and 5/10 NL live games and consistently pick up a buyin or two over a few hours...and from his writing, he doesn't sound like a very "good" player. That knowledge really frustrated me.
I run horrendously period. I had not one but TWO people apologizing to me last night for the beats they laid on me within an hour. I just want my 80% favorites to hold up half the time. I'd be a ****ng poker brazillionaire.
Temporary Nuts
Friday, November 9th, 2007, 7:49 AM
QUOTE (mtdesmoines @ Friday, November 9th, 2007, 10:20 AM)

You gotta give action to get it.
That's why I cross-styled a grand total of once.
mtdesmoines
Friday, November 9th, 2007, 7:54 AM
QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Friday, November 9th, 2007, 7:22 AM)

Not online.
Have you been playing much lately?
tskillz187
Friday, November 9th, 2007, 10:02 AM
QUOTE (mtdesmoines @ Friday, November 9th, 2007, 8:20 AM)

You gotta give action to get it.
I don't think I ever give a ton of action. And I can definitely get a ton. Just by limping all the time people think you are a maniac and give you action not noticing that you only pump the pot when you hit hard. That's just how bad the game is where I play.
I would think I'd get MORE action playing tighter and more aggressive preflop just because I'd be reraising PF so often and pots would be much bigger. I would look much more maniacal and they certainly wouldn't notice that it's only in position. They'd just see every pot I played had more than $100 in it.
dms26
Friday, November 9th, 2007, 11:02 AM
QUOTE (mtdesmoines @ Friday, November 9th, 2007, 10:22 AM)

I run horrendously period. I had not one but TWO people apologizing to me last night for the beats they laid on me within an hour. I just want my 80% favorites to hold up half the time. I'd be a ****ng poker brazillionaire.
At least you know you're a Sklansky brazillionaire
Acid_Knight
Friday, November 9th, 2007, 11:21 AM
QUOTE (mtdesmoines @ Friday, November 9th, 2007, 7:54 AM)

Have you been playing much lately?
Only online. About 20k hands in the last 30 days.
Acid_Knight
Friday, November 9th, 2007, 11:24 AM
QUOTE (David_Nicoson @ Friday, November 9th, 2007, 7:07 AM)

That's easy enough to fix. Do you think the live preflop "mistakes" were actually losing you money overall, or were you still making money on those hands? That is, if you tighten all up from on-line and bring that style back to your 5/10, what happens to your expectation?
I'm interested to see what happens when I go back to playing more live poker, which will hopefully come about in January. I think that I was bleedling a little money overall with some of the plays that I made, but it really ensured that I got full action when I did hit. I'd imagine with the bulletproof LAG image that I have from the players who know me, I could go back with a tighter game and have a slightly higher expectation.
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