Actually, I was shooting for Naismith, but if you want to come along for the ride, that's fine, I'm equal opportunity.

And you can't seriously believe that this is the first time, can you? I mean ... why do you think the league made it a point of emphasis, and then specfically went and observed the Patriots? Maybe because they've been doing it for years?

I think the Lombardies should be yanked and awarded to the opponents, such as the Eagles. If the NFL was as concerned about credibility as the NCAA is, that's what would happen. ...

This man is wise.

sorry this is a sensitive topic since i have been a New England fan my whole life. Roger Goodell said after doing his investigation said that it did not have an impact on the game.

I think the media did a really good job of turning this into a bigger deal than it was. I think taking away the three superbowls is waaayyyy overboard. Sorry about 2002 I know it must sting but you are being crazy.

Well, I started working with Steve last December and was doing decently at the time, but I've been a big proponent of continually learning, so I felt like a mentor was the next logical step. His price has been routinely criticized, but for what it was - "6 months" (but basically forever) of coaching from a high stakes player with students proficient in a lot of games. I felt like it'd give me a good source of information for the expansion of my game. I think that it accomplished this purpose...even though I still haven't fully taken advantage of it.

I stayed out of the recent round of discussions, because while I know that it helped me by forced accountability, I also know that it wouldn't be the same value to everyone. My feeling was: if you can afford it and are looking to improve your game, do it, but don't fret if the situation's not right.

C'mon, bro, I'm all for stripping the Patriots of all trophies and making everyone in Massachusetts miserable, but you can't honestly tell me that any of this puts an asterisk on how great Tom Brady is?

Also, I think if they stripped the title and gave it to the Eagles, it would be a super-fitting way for Philly to get a title. If that wasn't the perfect reflection of the Philly franchise, I don't know what would be!

Agree.

They should be rewarded for their consistency. Glad to see you're coming around.

mt collects allies ...



As honestly as I can say this, I don't think ANYONE but the people involved can say what impact this truly had. And about the 2002 playoffs, you're right, but not for the reason you think: I'm a die-hard Steeler fan.



I agree with all that, except to say that, if you know where the defense is going as an NFL QB, it is a distinct advantage. You still have to execute.

Only the Eagles would want to win a title because their opponents get stripped of it years later.

You continue to be both an embarrassment to and an accurate portrayal of the average Eagle fan!

I dont really understand this statement.

Are you saying the most value you took from it was that you had other strong players/players looking to get better to talk to all the time. And people you had to be honest with for results? Who was your group of players anyways? Do you feel like you improved as a player during this time? Did you roll reflect that? Did you stay close with the group?

To me, you seem more like a NL strat person than a S7S person. With a lot of them they seem to have a clique (not that there is anything wrong with that at all, and the people that I've talked to are all friendly/willing to talk) that you don't outwardly take part in. Do you still like meet up with your class and encourage one another or talk strategy?

If any of that stuff is invasive you don't need to answer it, just thought this thread could use some fresh topics and this is something of interest to me.

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!!!!

I'm also being sarcastic, I don't want a Super Bowl given to us. We're gonna turn this year around, I'm about to trade for McNabb on the cheap in fantasy, I got faith.

God, I'm such a moron. I can't believe that while you were making your truly ridiculous "Eagles are most consistent" claim, I only brought up the Patriots and left out the Colts.

Between the Patriots, Colts and Bucs, we have three teams that have made the playoffs at least as frequently over the last decade and each have a SB win!

I'm talking this century homie. I know the Pats and Bucs havent made it as often. I'm confident the Colts haven't but not positive. Your first sentence was correct though.

Maybe if you stopped all your responses after one sentence you could establish some credibility here.

It's really hard to deal with some Eagle fans. It's like the Yankees/Red Sox fans syndrome. You have some of the most arrogant, self dilluted, and irritating fans on both sides that create this idea that both Boston and NY are full of nothing but a bunch of whiny 8 year-olds that have nothing better to do than talk about how their new bike is better than yours. Granted, not all Eagle fans are as stubborn/delusional about sticking up for their franchise as you are. But this is really the sort of behavior that has earned Philadelphia fans such a bad reputation (following only behind NY fans). The Eagles have been good over the past years, but you can't compare them to Indy or the Patriots. Those 2 teams are in a league of their own and then Philly is behind them in a league of its own.

Edit: I actually do like the Eagles as a team. I really what Andy Reid's done over the years to keep his team competitive almost every year, and I like the team's style of football. I can only really name 2 players that I can't stand: McNabb and Dawkins (TO obviously when he was there.)

1. Hmmmm. .... did they drink too much water? ...... . was it of their own volition?

2. Agree.

3. Agree generally, but I like Reggie McNabb.

I kind of take this as a compliment. I also highly doubt I'd be an Eagles fan if I was from there, I'm not about rooting for home teams.



The Eagles can be compared quite favorably to the Colts. It's very hard to honestly say they have been better than a team that beat them in the Super Bowl and has 3 rings during the same period that I am questioning. What makes it sting a bit less is that the Eagles played poorly in that game and lost by 3 after everyone was saying the Eagles would have to play their best and the Pats their worst for it to be a close game.

Oh and I'm having trouble with choosing a Rounders quote to defend how I talk to Naismith, you can choose.

"In this thread I will talk shit about Naismith whenever the fuck I please"

or

"We're all kind of friends here, and if he doesn't mind - Do you mind sir? Then I'll talk shit to him."

I didn't see this edit before I responded.

I'm done with you.

P.S. Andy Reid sucks.

Ahhhh, memories.



You know, there is a reason the old Linc had a jail in the basement. They used to arrest Philly fans during the game and take them downstairs instead of downtown. Savages, all of them!



Agreed.

Also I think I can honestly say that Carolina is a legitimate deep playoff contender this year. Steve Smith is averaging 150 ypg and is on pace for over 2000 yards receiving. Now if only DeAngleo Williams would get out of the muck, they'd be high flyin'. All they have to do is sweep those stupid Bucs and have Julius Peppers flatten the tires on a certain Cadillac

T.O. > YOU.

Yeah, cuz he's pretty scary at full throttle.

I think it's safe to say those Auburn backs weren't that good. I hope it's too early to call Benson a bust cuz my fantasy season kinda depends on it.

Ah, well, originally you argued this decade, but I guess if we can change things, we can make any argument work for us.

Still, if we're including the 1999-2000 season (which I know you won't since it doesn't help your ridiculous side), the Colts have been there more times. Without it, the same. The Patriots and Bucs have been to the playoffs one less time than the Eagles. All three have actually won the SB.

I know it sucks cheering for a team that has nothing to hang their hat on, bro, but you'll always have how awesome Randall Cunningham used to be on the Nintendo.

The Spurs are my favorite team in my favorite sport, shrug.

If the goal is to like the best team, I'd just say I was a Pats fan.

I don't think this is accurate, but last time I looked for this stuff it was surprisingly difficult to get this information. Any clean link with that info?

http://www.hickoksports.com/history/profoo...ions.shtml#1999

The year listed is the start of the season, so "1999" refers to "1999-2000".

I have nothing negative to say about the Spurs except I think Tony Parker made a marriage mistake.

Convenient that the link gives me an error message.

Tony Parker needs to pass the ball to Ginobili more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9QZmLRIna8

His only marriage mistake is that he married my future wife, and I have his murder conspiracy in the works. Other than that, who can complain?

Yeah...that's pretty much what I'm saying. I had/have plenty of poker friends that I can rely on for advice, but there's an accountability that came with joining the group...and I'm not sure how to completely explain that. The group includes/included Vick, AAsnake, Mark, TB17, hblask, mikeysong, PoppinFresh, BubbleBoy, wrto, checkymcfold, wisky, mx957, psujohn, nutzbuster...and I might be forgetting a couple. I think I improved as a player through the regular chats and opportunities to hang out. My poker earnings were actually pretty decent during the winter and spring. I've actually been a little disconnected lately (entirely my fault), but I know I could approach almost any of them (particularly Steve) for help within minutes.

I've done a lot of talking with them online outside of the forums, and we got together in LA during February. A big portion also congregated several times in Vegas during June, and there's a get-together in LA this week, though I'm not going due to work obligations.

I think that I definitely started as an NL strat person, and I consider this my foremost home within the forums (even though I think I've been neglectful lately). I think I mingle a lot. I'd guess there are at least 20-30 people around here that I'd consider friends. In addition to S7S, I get along okay with the JC/looshle/Hoosier crowd decently, some of the OT crowd, and a number of "independents". Just looking at my IM list...I've got 53 people listed under "Poker".

How can u root for that man period? And especially dallas fans.. How can u root for this guy after the star incident?

I have 76 under "boyz"

4 of which I could talk to about poker for advice.

The z makes it cooler.

That was such an awesome day to watch sports. George Teague, you are awesome!

So this isn't entirely true. Test time today/tomorrow. Gotta run good in life, one timeeeeeee. If not, better be male so I can name him Huck. Huck Skillz is a badass name.

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/...rinates-on.html

Ok, I think I'm gonna become an NL donk again, as of tomorrow.

GL sir.

good luck Poker sucks, I always seem to run worse on the weekends.


Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $25
Hero: $85.45
CO: $31.80
Button: $24.65
SB: $27.70
BB: $191.60

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with Q Q
UTG calls, Hero raises to $1, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls, BB raises to $5, UTG folds, Hero calls, 2 folds.

Flop: T 9 Q ($12.25, 2 players)
BB bets $8, Hero raises to $80.45, BB calls.

Turn: J ($173.15, 2 players)

River: 7 ($173.15, 2 players)


Results:
Final pot: $173.15
BB showed Kd Ks
Hero mucks Qd Qh


Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $9.65
Hero: $30.90
Button: $2.60
SB: $47.05
BB: $14.55

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with 5 5
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.75, Button folds, SB raises to $1.25, BB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: Q 5 J ($2.75, 2 players)
SB bets $1, Hero raises to $4, SB raises to $7, Hero raises all-in $29.65, SB calls.

Turn: 8 ($62.05, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $62.05)


River: K ($62.05, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $62.05)


Results:
Final pot: $62.05
SB showed Kc Kd
Hero mucks 5h 5c

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $27.35
Hero: $37.40
CO: $25.25
Button: $91.45
SB: $13.60
BB: $45.60

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with 5 5
UTG calls, Hero raises to $0.75, CO folds, Button raises to $2.5, 2 folds, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Flop: T 6 5 ($7.85, 3 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks, Button bets $5, UTG folds, Hero raises to $13, Button raises all-in $88.95, Hero calls all-in $21.9.
Uncalled bets: $54.05 returned to Button.

Turn: 3 ($77.65, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $77.65)


River: J ($77.65, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $77.65)


Results:
Final pot: $77.65
Hero showed 5c 5s
Button showed JJ

I run like a 1 legged donkey

Those are pretty sick. Looks like my hand histories! I run good in life again though, negative, negative.

WEEEEEEEEEEE that is awesome news.

they are making way too big of a deal with this, does any other sport have a rule like this? I doubt it. If they are dumb enough to not try to disguise the signals in some way it's their own fault, in baseball you usually have a guy or two in the dugout trying to pick up the other teams signs. It's just part of the game. Taking away a superbowl would be the stupidest thing I've ever heard for trying to steal signs.

Sidenote - And I am not a Boston fan.

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t50/t100
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t1130
UTG+1: t1715
MP1: t1415
MP2: t1320
MP3: t1870
CO: t870
Button: t1815
SB: t1915
Hero: t1425

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with 6 Q
2 folds, MP1 calls t100 (pot was t150), 3 folds, SB calls t50 (pot was t250), Hero checks.

Flop: 6 3 5 (t300, 4 players)
SB bets t200, Hero raises all-in t1325, MP1 calls all-in t1315.
Uncalled bets: t10 returned to Hero.

Turn: J (t2025, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: t3130)


River: 3 (t2025, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: t3130)


Results:
Final pot: t2025
MP1 showed Jc 2d
Hero showed 6h Qd

Poker is fun for everyone... i think i tilt people. How do you make this call with J2???

congrats, we don't need any new Eagles fans running around anyway. We could use a few more Huckleberry's though.

Yeah I love the name, I'd prefer to use it in 3-6 years instead.

Grinding back, this dude needed to stop floating me.

Full Tilt Poker Game #3638751680: Table Boseck (6 max) - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 13:35:23 ET - 2007/09/22
Seat 1: calvert_skans ($27.80)
Seat 2: browny24 ($24.55)
Seat 3: ab0r ($38.35)
Seat 4: UFGatorGuy ($35.15)
Seat 5: DamPFwalzEPS ($25.35)
Seat 6: tskillz187 ($23.90)
tskillz187 posts the small blind of $0.10
calvert_skans posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tskillz187 [As Ks]
browny24 folds
ab0r calls $0.25
UFGatorGuy folds
DamPFwalzEPS folds
tskillz187 raises to $1
calvert_skans folds
ab0r calls $0.75
*** FLOP *** [Qd 5d 7s]
tskillz187 bets $1.50
ab0r calls $1.50
*** TURN *** [Qd 5d 7s] [4h]
tskillz187 checks
ab0r bets $2.75
tskillz187 calls $2.75
*** RIVER *** [Qd 5d 7s 4h] [8h]
tskillz187 checks
ab0r bets $8.50
tskillz187 calls $8.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ab0r shows [3d Ad] Ace Queen high
tskillz187 shows [As Ks] Ace King high
tskillz187 wins the pot ($26.40) with Ace King high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $27.75 | Rake $1.35
Board: [Qd 5d 7s 4h 8h]
Seat 1: calvert_skans (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: browny24 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: ab0r showed [3d Ad] and lost with Ace Queen high
Seat 4: UFGatorGuy didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: DamPFwalzEPS (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: tskillz187 (small blind) showed [As Ks] and won ($26.40) with Ace King high

God, I wish I didn't give up poker so I could make fun of you right now.

Sometimes you trap with AK high and let him hang himself!

http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2007...w-not-to-cheat/

This is interesting/scary. I started a thread in gen poker about it.

Next time tskillz complains about running bad, point out this gem of a hand.

Dealt to WoeUntoMe [Jd Ad]
xx Warbo xx folds
KULakester folds
tskillz187 raises to $0.85
WoeUntoMe calls $0.75
CrunkPro calls $0.60
*** FLOP *** [8s Ac Jh]
WoeUntoMe checks
CrunkPro checks
plappy sits down
tskillz187 checks
plappy adds $25
*** TURN *** [8s Ac Jh] [5h]
WoeUntoMe checks
CrunkPro bets $2
tskillz187 calls $2
WoeUntoMe raises to $7
CrunkPro folds
tskillz187 raises to $29.10, and is all in
WoeUntoMe calls $15.80, and is all in
tskillz187 shows [7s As]
WoeUntoMe shows [Jd Ad]
Uncalled bet of $6.30 returned to tskillz187
*** RIVER *** [8s Ac Jh 5h] [7h]
tskillz187 shows two pair, Aces and Sevens
WoeUntoMe shows two pair, Aces and Jacks
WoeUntoMe wins the pot ($47.65) with two pair, Aces and Jacks
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $50.15 | Rake $2.50
Board: [8s Ac Jh 5h 7h]
Seat 1: tskillz187 (button) showed [7s As] and lost with two pair, Aces and Sevens
Seat 2: WoeUntoMe (small blind) showed [Jd Ad] and won ($47.65) with two pair, Aces and Jacks
Seat 3: CrunkPro (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 4: xx Warbo xx didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: KULakester didn't bet (folded)

Instant message from Ganador "I'm gonna lose this buyin so fast being crazy."

First hand played I raise he calls, flops two pair vs top pair and stacks me. God couldn't hate me anymore. And he checked 2pr twice, gawd you suck at the pokahs.

Its called psychology, all part of the game, you one dimensional donkey.

LOL

I always thought T was a little "ODD".

Heh.