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NoSup4U
Should I bet flop here?

Edit: This is a tourney, blinds are 25/50. Not sure why converter says its a ring game. Anyway, mostly just want opinions on leading flop, or check/trapping the donks.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $25/$50
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $1335
UTG+1: $1405
MP1: $1170
MP2: $1560
MP3: $4170
CO: $2815
Button: $1480
SB: $2345
NoSup4U: $1580

Pre-flop: (9 players) NoSup4U is BB with 3 icon_suit_heart.gif 3 icon_suit_diamond.gif
UTG raises to $150, 3 folds, MP3 calls, 2 folds, SB calls, NoSup4U calls.

Flop: K icon_suit_spade.gif 3 icon_suit_spade.gif 5 icon_suit_spade.gif ($600, 4 players)
SB checks, NoSup4U checks, UTG checks, MP3 checks.

Turn: J icon_suit_club.gif ($600, 4 players)
SB checks, NoSup4U bets $400, 2 folds, SB raises to $1550, NoSup4U calls all-in $1030.
Uncalled bets: $120 returned to SB.

River: A icon_suit_heart.gif ($3460, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $3460)


Results:
Final pot: $3460
SB showed 9s 6s
NoSup4U showed 3h 3d

Thx!
Mark
PoppinFresh
expert flop check sir! you get a cookie
StupidKid
Don't show results n00b!
I play it the same.
Edit. Saying that, a bet could induce a shove by A icon_suit_spade.gif x
Meh.
TB17
lol, this is gonna be the best donkament thread ever
NoSup4U
QUOTE (StupidKid @ Tuesday, August 7th, 2007, 1:58 PM) *
Don't show results n00b!


I thought about editing out, but I was too lazy and just care about the flop check anyway so I figured wth smile.gif

Also, Jeet, Teddy and I just spent at least 30 mins arguing about this hand over IM.

Mark
TB17
lead, please.

I've spent like 4 hours arguing with Jeet over two hands, this one, and gabe's laydown. God I hate Jeet.
Loismustdie
Well, if you bet I probably reraise you all in with my flush draw.

Just ask yourself what would the donk do? If you are not sure, give me a ring,and I will tell you exactly what I would do.

The serious answer- I raise the flop.
timwakefield
This is really a son of a bitch, but I think you played it correctly and here's why: It appears that this tourney everybody started with 1500 chips (or maybe 2000?), and either way, the whole table is quite short compared to if this was a rebuy or a 3k-starting-stack where you'd have more room to breathe. The pot on the flop represents over 1/3 of your stack, and a significant portion of your three opponents' stacks as well (especially the PF raiser's). I think it would be very difficult for any of these 3 opponents to fold to a check-raise all-in from you if they decide to open on the flop (assuming they open for at least half the pot). Let's say you open for 350 on the flop - is a naked spade really gonna shove on you with almost no perceived fold equity???? Probably not. Is a naked spade (or 88 with a draw, or a weak king, etc) gonna have to call your check-raise all in? Probably. Ship it.
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