Would they really check/call on that board with a good hand? Kinda dangerous to check twice on that drawy board if you have top 2 pair/set...I'm repping a hand to protect...meaning they might think their draws are live (which they are) and they would be inclined to chase with improper odds.

As shortstacked as we are, isn't this still a +ev result?

Yeah I was wondering the +ev of it all...I'm really not sure to be honest.

Well, the way I look at it, you're "most" likely ahead on the flop. If one guy calls with a 35% chance against you, that is +ev. If nobody calls, you take the pot, and that is +ev. If you got outflopped, you're usually not worse than 30%, and with the size of the pot and your remaining stack size you have to be getting at least close to the right price.

Just a heads up....I'm returning to the PLO's so expect some crappy beat posts and whining and redonkulous brags again. Just downloaded PTO and PAHUD on my new computer and got re-registered.....Lets goooooo.

No more NLHU?

Yep, will probably be 70/30 in favor of HU for now - just want to get some variety. Playing any game exclusively for too long gets boring and I think negatively affects your overall game. I have no problem admitting that for the 8 months or so that I played nothing but plo, the rest of my poker game suffered immensely.

These are the only kinds of hands I can win now.

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($23.25)
SB ($153.35)
Hero (BB) ($29.95)
UTG ($4.75)
MP ($8)
CO ($28.70)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9 , Q , 7 , 7
UTG calls $0.25, 2 folds, Button calls $0.25, SB calls $0.15, Hero checks

Flop: ($1) 7 , 4 , 8 (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.95, UTG raises to $3.80, Button calls $3.80, SB calls $3.80, Hero raises to $19.95, UTG calls $0.70 (All-In), Button raises to $23 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero calls $3.05

Turn: ($55.30) K (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($55.30) 4 (3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $55.30 | Rake: $2.75

Results:
Button mucked A , 3 , 2 , 3 (two pair, fours and threes).
Hero had 9 , Q , 7 , 7 (full house, sevens over fours).
UTG had 6d, 10d, 6h, 5c (straight, eight high).
Outcome: Hero won $52.55

Before twodiming it, anyone like to guess win%?

Just off the top of my head I'd think somewhere in the 15-20% range.

Why so low? Around %26 IMO

higher than 26 i think. you have one 6 thats clean, plus your boat outs, which you can take into account that there are 8 cards removed from the deck since nobody has paired on the flop (so 37 unseen cards instead of 45), plus the other guy has a pair of also 3s which helps you make a boat a teeny tiny bit more. one flush blocker adds a little (the seven doesn't count since it makes you quads) you also have a runner runner ten-jack straight you can hit and there are no tens or jacks in your or your opponents hands.


im gonna guess 35.

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i just checked and im significantly low. you have more equity than the straight.

I still haven't checked but i have a hard time believing our equity is higher than 35.

Btw Naked Straight is totally ****ed here against these two hands.

nope the naked straight has more than
33

a lil bit more than 33 with the nuts isn't the best situation imo

oh wow jokes on me. i thought you were saying something about having 33 so i put the huge percent sign.

I R Have A Pair. I win.

Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($101.05)
MP ($198.50)
Button ($100)
Hero (SB) ($108.30)
BB ($278.30)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8 , 7 , 10 , J
2 folds, Button raises to $3.50, Hero calls $3, BB calls $2.50

Flop: ($10.50) 4 , Q , 9 (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, Button bets $10, Hero raises to $40.50, 1 fold, Button raises to $96.50 (All-In), Hero calls $56

Turn: ($203.50) 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($203.50) 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $203.50 | Rake: $3

Results in white below:
Button had K , J , 10 , A (high card, Ace).
Hero had 8 , 7 , 10 , J (one pair, sevens).
Outcome: Hero won $200.50

edited

QFT

Been back for 2 weeks or so now...things going well so far. Took a jump up to 100 today that didn't go so hot, but it's all good, I'll just keep trying to own 50 and get back to where I need to be.

^^^^^ quality > quantity

WoOt - ship the freeroll

Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($52.25)
Hero (SB) ($200.20)
BB ($48.30)
UTG ($296.85)
MP ($107.35)
CO ($53.40)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9 , 7 , A , 3
UTG calls $1, 2 folds, Button calls $1, Hero calls $0.50, BB checks

Flop: ($4) 5 , 8 , 6 (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets $4, 1 fold, Hero raises to $16, 1 fold, UTG raises to $52, Hero raises to $160, UTG raises to $295.85 (All-In), Hero calls $39.20 (All-In)

Turn: ($402.40) 7 (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($402.40) 10 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $402.40 | Rake: $3

Results:
Hero had 9 , 7 , A , 3 (flush, Ace high).
UTG had 9 , A , K , 7 (straight, ten high).
Outcome: Hero won $399.40

looooooool at his call

Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.50 BB (4 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (BB) ($50)
UTG ($70.55)
Button ($37.45)
SB ($37.60)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A , A , 6 , 8
2 folds, SB calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.50, SB calls $1

Flop: ($3) 4 , 2 , 6 (2 players)
SB bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

Turn: ($6) A (2 players)
SB bets $3, Hero calls $3

River: ($12) 2 (2 players)
SB bets $6, Hero raises to $30, SB calls $24

Total pot: $72 | Rake: $2

Results:
SB had 7 , 3 , Q , 7 (two pair, sevens and twos).
Hero had A , A , 6 , 8 (full house, Aces over twos).
Outcome: Hero won $70

lol he is a genius baby!

He obviously had you pegged for the FD and he was right. He's probably not happy that he was right though.

Note also that he left himself with like $1.35 - which I relieved him of the very next hand

zomg....I don't know how I pulled this one off, and I know it's not the most +ev play long term...had the slider bar shoved all the way to the right, timed down...just felt it here

Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP ($64.45)
CO ($46.85)
Hero (Button) ($103.95)
SB ($228.25)
BB ($49)
UTG ($66.30)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 3 , 5 , 7 , A
UTG calls $1, MP calls $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $1, SB calls $0.50, BB checks

Flop: ($5) 2 , 10 , 4 (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($5) Q (5 players)
SB bets $5, 3 folds, Hero calls $5

River: ($15) 8 (2 players)
SB bets $15, Hero calls $15

Total pot: $45 | Rake: $2.25

Results:
Hero had 3 , 5 , 7 , A (flush, Ace high).
SB had J , 9 , 8 , 4 (Straight flush, Queen high).
Outcome: SB won $42.75

edit, and yes, I know - raise preflop, bet flop, raise turn, etc...
Was my last round at the table, kids running around, dinner on the stove, just wrapping up a session.

If no one responds that you are a nut for not raising here because only one hand will beat you, my feelings will be hurt.

That's a sick hand. I'd and will stack off there everytime.

I would have folded and saved myself $15.

Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $89.50
UTG+1: $637.65
CO: $75.60
Button: $58.50
SB: $202.65
Hero: $540.10

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 7 K A K
UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $3.5, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: T 4 K ($11, 3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $11, Button raises to $31, Hero raises to $115, UTG+1 raises to $398, Button calls all-in $24, Hero raises all-in $536.6, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: 3 ($1139.2, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $176, Sidepot 1: $963.2)


River: 2 ($1139.2, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $176, Sidepot 1: $963.2)


Results:
Final pot: $1139.2
[color=#ffffff]UTG+1 showed 8h 8s 5c Ks
[color=#ffffff]Button showed Td Tc 9h Jd
[color=#ffffff]Hero showed 7d Kd Ah Kh

Damn!

There goes living expenses of one month in Barcelona...

Must have been doing well before that to build up 550bb stack though?

300 of it was that guy's money.

But still down 1400 for the last 3 days and 180 for the day.

Not sure how I feel about a guy shoving for 500+ bb with top pair and 2nd nut flush draw.... (other than to say I'd like to be sitting to his immediate left)

Could be worse though bud - you could run like this guy...

lol

at first it is always very funny to me when it happens to some other guy

then i feel bad about him..

You can feel bad for me now too

Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.50 BB (5 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($113.55)
SB ($98)
BB ($49.25)
UTG ($57.35)
Hero (MP) ($61.15)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 7 , 8 , 7 , 10
1 fold, Hero raises to $1.75, 2 folds, BB calls $1.25

Flop: ($3.75) 2 , 6 , 7 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3.75, BB raises to $15, Hero raises to $48.75, BB calls $32.50 (All-In)

Turn: ($98.75) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($98.75) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $98.75 | Rake: $3

Results:
BB had K , 7 , 6 , J (four of a kind, sixes).
Hero had 7 , 8 , 7 , 10 (full house, sevens over sixes).
Outcome: BB won $95.75

Holy macaroni! That's beyond disgusting, did you quit after this? Or just launch your laptop discus-like into Lake Ontario?

Nah. Took about 30-40 more hands, but I exacted my revenge. Flopped a boat on the same guy and got him to stack off with trips

Well don't worry i am playing $50 now so you can always stack me over and over again.

so i used some fpp's to win some T$ and then used the T$ to inflict some damage on the 180's and then used my 180's winnings to make my much celebrated return to the PLO's

2k hands in under 12h - niiiiice Degen

knew things had been going too well...

Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($98.50)
MP ($123)
Hero (CO) ($100)
Button ($100.90)
SB ($221.80)
BB ($182.20)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J , K , J , 9
2 folds, Hero raises to $3.50, 2 folds, BB calls $2.50

Flop: ($7.50) J , 3 , 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $6, BB raises to $18, Hero raises to $61.50, BB raises to $178.70 (All-In), Hero calls $35 (All-In)

Turn: ($200.50) 3 (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($200.50) 5 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $200.50 | Rake: $3

Results:
BB had 6 , Q , 6 , 3 (four of a kind, threes).
Hero had J , K , J , 9 (full house, Jacks over threes).
Outcome: BB won $197.50

ouch that's twice in the recent past.....doomswitch IMO

Poker Stars
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Frezinator is SB with Q 9 7 Q
UTG calls, UTG+1, folds, CO (poster) checks, Button calls, Frezinator calls, BB (poster) checks.

Flop: 5 8 6 ($2.5, 5 players)
Frezinator checks, BB checks, UTG checks, CO bets $2, Button folds, Frezinator raises to $7, 2 folds, CO raises to $23.4, Frezinator raises to $39.8, CO calls all-in $16.1.
Uncalled bets: $0.3 returned to Frezinator.

Turn: T ($81.5, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $81.5)


River: J ($81.5, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $81.5)


Results:
Final pot: $81.5

Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good Is getting it all in on the flop here standard?

*** SHOW DOWN ***
Frezinator: shows [Qs 9s 7h Qc] (a straight flush, Eight to Queen)
CO: mucks hand [4d As Ks 7d] (nut flush)

I hope you're kidding.

I hope that means of course it is - don't ask such an obv question.

Yes, it does. Flopping the stone nuts with a redraw to Qhi flush, I stack off there all day every day. The amount of times you'll be freerolling a naked straight will more than make up for when they have the naked flush draw (to which you have blockers) and suck out.

sigh.

Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

CO ($175.75)
SB ($99)
Hero (BB) ($111.70)
UTG ($138.10)
MP ($75.10)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K , 9 , Q , 8
3 folds, SB raises to $3, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($6) 3 , J , 10 (2 players)
SB bets $6, Hero raises to $24, SB calls $18

Turn: ($54) Q (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $54, SB calls $54

River: ($162) 2 (2 players)
SB bets $18 (All-In), Hero calls $18

Total pot: $198 | Rake: $3

Results:
SB had Q , A , 7 , A (flush, Ace high).
Hero had K , 9 , Q , 8 (flush, King high).
Outcome: SB won $195