Meh, when I was playing regularly I was at about 30/20 for like 25k hands. You'll have quite a lot of hands on me from early on when I was a lot more tight passive. I do go through phases.

ok but this isn't about you

I agree and also notice that I play a bit looser than I'd like. I find that my biggest losers over the first 1kish hands are hands like AKJx or QK10x, or broadway type hands. Hopefully in the next few thousand hands I can tighten up a bit.

I was going to say he looked too passive preflop, and that was probably the only real mistake. You usually want to be raising at least half of your hands preflop in 6-max. As for playing 25/8, it's OK for FR, but it's pretty TAP (especially passive) for 6-max.

Here are my 6-max stats for June FWIW:
(Time period obviously cherry-picked to make my winrate look more impressive.)

I think part of the reason my PFR is too low is because I'm not comfortable with my 3bet calling range. I'd rather limpcall hands that are borderline raisable. Pots get so incredibly bloated preflop when you have a 3bet and two or three callers. When I play hands like QQ/KK/AAxx (discounting AAQJ, AAds type hands) from early position, I can't find a good reason to bloat the pot preflop esp. if I'm most likely not going to make the nuts. Hence, the low PFR.

Someone 4-betted me then folded to my 5-bet preflop today. What does that mean?

You win $$$?

I would love someone to rail me and discuss my play. Going to hop on two tables right now. rdtedm on stars & aim

Kind of a nitpick, but it tilts me when people talk about "early position" when they're playing 6-max. Uh, there is no early position. The first two positions to act are 2 and 3 OTB. Also, I don't really get what's wrong with "bloating the pot" either. If you've got a hand that plays bad against AA, and there's a shortish stack that has AA, well yeah that's bad. Otherwise, it's no problem though. With weak AA type hands, you should be dying to "bloat the pot".

FWIW, I wouldn't recommend trying to play 36/24 exactly, that's a little tough. I tend to 3-bet a lot myself in marginal situations and raise a lot from the blinds. Something like 32/18 would be standard for playing a good aggressive game though.

Haha, afte3r you left yesterday, bundy, I lost two big pots to essentially breakeven for the day. Some guy called three streets with KKxx on a 9d10d6c4s3c board, when I obviously had AdQdJs10c.

Does
Not
Compute.

Yeah, posted the wrong hand I think. Basically, it was a guy checking down four of a kind all 3 streets. Also, the converter messes up omaha hands a lot in my experience.

use the "nieldwuhrst" (or whatever) one - it's much better imo

there's links in most of the converted posts - you have to register, but it's free.
Also, pokerhand.org is handy for shipping hands back and forth between friends - it posts your hand then gives you a direct link to the hh. Most hh's are too long to post in an aim/msn chat

Haha, why I love $100 PL:

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

saw flop|saw showdown

SB ($59.45)
Hero ($100)
UTG ($104.30)
MP ($117.90)
CO ($43.60)
Button ($119.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, T, J, J.
2 folds, CO calls $1, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero raises to $4, CO calls $3, SB folds.

Flop: ($9) 5, A, Q (2 players)
Hero bets $7, CO calls $7.

Turn: ($23) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $9, Hero raises to $48.9, CO calls $23.60 (All-In).

River: ($88.20) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $88.20

Results in white below:

Seat 5: looord777 mucked [8s 7s 2d 6h]
Seat 6: gavz101 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

4 "wow"s in the chat box :

Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $293.45
UTG+1: $88
CO: $166.30
Hero: $290.40
SB: $286.75
BB: $100

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with 2 T 3 4
UTG raises to $2, 2 folds, Hero folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: 2 7 6 ($6, 3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $6, UTG raises to $24, SB raises to $84, BB folds, UTG calls.

Turn: A ($180, 2 players)
SB bets $180, UTG raises all-in $207.45, SB calls all-in $20.75.
Uncalled bets: $6.7 returned to UTG.

River: 7 ($581.5, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $581.5)


Results:
Final pot: $581.5
SB showed 7c 7s Jc Ks
UTG showed 3d Kh Ac Ad

100BBs Average pot? ORLY?

why is there a little green triangle next to that one guys name?

shows that you have a note on that player

rr pf w/o aaxx

very important note for a guy with stats of 17/7/3.4

Glad to be back playing the plo's. At the same point, I think taking some time out and learning some of the finer points of 6max holdem has helped my omaha game. Here's my first couple days back...



Running about 21/14/4 - much healthier stats than I used to have. Looking forward to putting in a full month in July - 20-25k hands I'm hoping for.

21/14/4?

I think i am officially the tightest and most passive player in this forum now.

PokerEVaments?

Your stats look good. Maybe loosen up a touch in position, but it's only a very minor suggestion.

As requested. Have been running pretty much to expectation, won 2 pots today where I got it in behind though

I don't think there's much strat content here - I probably should fold to the preflop 3bet, I probably should raise the flop instead of getting greedy and going for the overcall. Yay for board pairing rivers!!

Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $25
UTG+1: $9.60
Hero: $25
Button: $0
SB: $34.85
BB: $105.55

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with K 9 9 Q
UTG (poster) checks, UTG+1 calls, Hero raises to $1.35, SB folds, BB calls, UTG raises to $6, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: 4 3 9 ($18.35, 4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $8.8, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: 6 ($44.75, 4 players)
BB checks, UTG is all-in $10.45, Hero calls all-in $10.45, BB calls.

River: 6 ($76.1, 2 players + 2 all-in - Main pot: $76.1)


Results:
Final pot: $76.1
BB showed Qd Jc Ac Tc
UTG showed Kc Ah Ks 7c
Hero showed Kd 9d 9s Qs

(I like how they both had clubs, yet it still gets there on the turn obv...lol)

Don't think I have ever had 3 pair + FD + BFD.

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)

MP ($77.10)
CO ($65.25)
Hero ($45.60)
SB ($26)
BB ($13.50)
UTG ($27.05)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7 , 3 , 9 , 5 .
UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, CO calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1.25) 5 , 9 , 7 (5 players)
SB checks, BB bets $1, UTG calls $1, CO folds, Hero raises to $5.2, SB folds, BB raises to $13.25, UTG calls $12.25, Hero raises to $45.35, UTG calls $13.55 (All-In).

Turn: ($41) 9 (3 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($41) A (3 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $68.10
Main Pot: $41, between Hero, BB and UTG. > Pot won by Hero ($41).
Pot 2: $45.65, between Hero and BB. > Pot won by Hero ($45.65).

Results below:
BB has 4s As 2s Qd (two pair, aces and nines).
UTG has 8s Th Ad Js (two pair, aces and nines).

Outcome: Hero wins $86.65.

Simo8Ball says "Raise Preflop"

True.

That's all he ever says though.

Btw. I like your K99Q hand. Although I raise flop too for obvious draw purposes (charge the fuckers!)

My thinking in that hand was pretty much as follows

Preflop - gah, I got 3bet, but I'm double suited, BB called too, big pot coming up....

Flop - ding ding ding ding - gin flop! At this point I'm seeing the river no matter what. When dude bets $9 in to me, I'm obv willing to get it in there if required - however, that's a significant amount (35bb or so) and the guy behind me has a giant stack - maybe he'll either flat call or if I get really lucky, shove over top if I sweeten the pot.

Turn - great, I guess we're gonna need the board to pair now.....i have to call though, $11 in to $55 is a no brainer

River -

I don't think there's any other way this hand goes, But BB really should have just put you and UTG all-in on the flop. It's clear one of you has a draw and the other has a made hand. So he's only really playing against one player, but for a tasty pot.

Yeah, him not shoving there is pretty bad, imo.

Ha! Does this mean I analysed (an albeit simple) omaha hand correctly? Yay! I'm having another beer!

Here's an example of a hand that I wouldn't have raised probably a month ago...I only flatted the turn cuz this guy had pulled a similar move on me a few hands prior and I'd folded to him, so I didn't want to shove and just reek of strength - the only card in the deck that can beat me is an ace, and I have position on the river.
Sexy river value bet imo.


Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $20.85
CO: $45
Hero: $25
SB: $27.30
BB: $5.85

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with K 4 5 Q
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.85, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: K K Q ($1.95, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.5, SB calls.

Turn: 8 ($4.95, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3.5, SB raises to $7, Hero calls.

River: K ($18.95, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $9.75, SB calls.

Results:
Final pot: $38.45
Hero showed Kh 4h 5s Qh
SB mucks 8h 5c 8c Ad

Value bet bigger imo.

fyp

Signs I'm running good:

FACEURINSIDE: what kind of program do u have potripper

Playing PLO HU 50. I have good HHs. Anyone want?
Edit: Too bad, you're getting them.

Session details:

# opponents: 3
# hands: 130
$ won: $230.64
bb/100: 177.42 (sustainable??)

Absolute Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
2 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is BB with
SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: ($1, 2 players)
Hero bets $1, SB calls.

Turn: ($3, 2 players)
Hero bets $3, SB raises to $12, Hero raises all-in $37.8, SB calls.

River: ($78.6, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $78.6)

He had KKxx.

Results:
Final pot: $78.6

Absolute Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
2 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is SB with
Hero raises to $1.5, BB raises to $4.5, Hero calls.

Flop: ($9, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $8.5, BB raises to $17, Hero raises to $60, BB folds.
Uncalled bets: $43 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: $43

Absolute Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
SB: $37.20
Hero: $76.30

Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is BB with
SB raises to $1.5, Hero raises to $4.5, SB calls.

Flop: ($9, 2 players)
Hero bets $8.5, SB calls.

Turn: ($26, 2 players)
Hero bets $26, SB calls all-in $24.2.
Uncalled bets: $1.8 returned to Hero.

River: ($74.4, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $74.4)


Results:
Final pot: $74.4
Hero Shows Jd Qd As 10h
SB Shows 10c 4s 9d Qc


Absolute Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $100.50
BB: $36.45

Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is SB with
Hero raises to $1.5, BB calls.

Flop: ($3, 2 players)
BB bets $3, Hero raises to $11.5, BB calls.

Turn: ($26, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $26, BB calls all-in $23.45.
Uncalled bets: $2.55 returned to Hero.

River: ($72.9, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $72.9)


Results:
Final pot: $72.9
Hero Shows 6d 9c 8s 9h
BB Shows 4c 8c 10d 7h

Absolute Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $124.05
BB: $30.55

Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is SB with
Hero raises to $1.5, BB raises to $3, Hero raises to $9, BB calls.

Flop: ($18, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $18, BB raises all-in $21.55, Hero calls.

Turn: ($61.1, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $61.1)


River: ($61.1, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $61.1)


Results:
Final pot: $61.1
Hero Shows 10c 7s 9s Jc
BB Shows Kd Ks 7c Ah


I have more, but I won't post.

I'm not proud of it. But I did it. I played a HUUUUUGE idiot heads up (like, he played 100% of 68 hands we played). However, I lost every single showdown pot we got to in various ways. (Some thin bluffs by me, and some insane luck by him), and ended up dropping 3 buyins at 50PLO. I saw him sitting at a 2/4 table alone with $120, so I bought in $160 and stacked him. Twice! (second of only $70).

Result: Ship the $300 evening. I've already made my July goal I posted, LOL.

Edit: here is the type of players I was playing:

Absolute Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
SB: $9.45
Hero: $59.40

Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is BB with
SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: ($1, 2 players)
Hero checks, SB checks.

Turn: ($1, 2 players)
Hero checks, SB checks.

River: ($1, 2 players)
Hero checks, SB checks.

Results:
Final pot: $1
Hero Shows Qd Js Kh 4h
SB Shows Kc Qh Ks Qc WELL PLAYED KKQQ WITH POSITION AND A SHORT STACK SIRRR

I'd forgotten why I hate this game.

I remember now.

That is all.

At least one of us is enjoying PLO atm.

Don't worry, I had a losing session last night

lol i didn't mean to make you feel guilty for running good

I stacked the same guy yesterday again, and he's like

"Such a ****ing joke
You work for AP
You play so bad and are so ****ing lucky"

So he followed me to another table where I was playing someone else and said

"hey, xxx, rdt works for AP"

Right after that, the guy won a ~$65ish pot off me, and said

"Only part time though"

I lol'd.

lol

I played some on AP a few months ago. Deep $50 PLO table (There was only one $50 plo table going) was so ridiculously tight that average but was around $2.

Since then everyone tells how good AP PLO games are. I just don't get it.

I have been playing for 3 hours and 16 minutes.

Right now i have 14 buyins spread over 4 tables.

And i am down $15 for the day.

wtf

iggy? is that you posting on bundy's account?!

Don't play the first 554 hands imo.