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simo_8ball
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Hero: $241.60
UTG+1: $272.95

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with T icon_suit_heart.gif 8 icon_suit_heart.gif
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, Hero raises to $4, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: 6 icon_suit_club.gif 5 icon_suit_heart.gif T icon_suit_spade.gif ($16.5, 4 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $10, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: 8 icon_suit_club.gif ($36.5, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $25, UTG+1 raises all-in $258.95, Hero folds.


Standard?
usd2usf2mlb
Standard. You are either looking at the baby straight (47) or a set and he is protecting against something like 710 or some other hand with an open-ended straight in it.
Acid_Knight
Gross. I could see a set maybe but never a straight doing this. Maybe a hand like Txcc or something. T9cc, T7cc. The board is so drawy that I think that you really should call here. You beat all other 2 pair combinations and since I don't think he'd play a straight like this, the only hand that I'm worrying about that currently beats me is a set. He probably has some huge combo draw or even a lesser 2 pair I mean, if he'd play a set like this, he'd definitely play 56 or 68 or something similarly.

I think you should be calling here unless you have a good read on what this means from him. Also, since you raised preflop, his pushing range here might include any hand that beats a big pair, so he might be pushing 56 for value here thinking you may or may not call with KK or whatever.
darkrider88
Very tough spot, but this is not an easy fold. Other two pair combos, even a flush draw with a pair is possible now. I think a set is much more likely than a straight here, since a straight wouldn't want to push you out but a set could want to protect his hand when the 2nd club and straight card hit (the same logic applies to 2 pair). I hate it but probably call.
simo_8ball
He was 45/10 preflop. No real info on his postflop play though.
sabes99
i pretty much agree with acid, only difference is i probably would end up chickening out and folding
RollTheDice
Acid makes some good points and agree for the most part if the player in question was aggresive enough postflop. From my experiance though players with stats like 40/10 are generally passive post flop and arn't raising without made hands. Because of this i discount combo draws ect from his range unless he has an adequate post flop aggression factor.

I agree with Acid again that i am only afraid of a set in this spot, and the fact that we have top 2 makes a set less likely than usual. Villain plays a set in the same fashion as any other 2 pair and the combination of hands we beat outweights the hands that have us crushed. For this reason i make the call being fully prepared to stack off against a set because of all the times he has 2 pair that we beat. I find a muck here with anything less than top 2 though.
mtdesmoines
QUOTE (simo_8ball @ Saturday, August 4th, 2007, 7:54 AM) *
Hero folds.
Standard?



SOOOOOO standard.
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