Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
8 players
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Stack sizes:

MP2: $41.55
CO: $21.60
Hero: $65.25
SB: $18.85
BB: $71.45

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is Button with T A
3 folds, MP2 raises to $1.75, CO calls, Hero??

MP2 is an average player i.e. fairly tight aggressive but CO is very loose and will most likely be holding junk. Is this an opportunity for a squeeze play? If so should I be raising to about $6 or $7?

horrible place for a reraise

Please explain because I think this is a good spot. Since I have position and a mediocre hand against a fairly tight player who I think would fold to a reraise and a loose player who would give up since he likely holds a weak hand and has now lost his advantage of position. Also my image is TAG.

If you wouldn't reraise MP2 normally, why would you do it here? If he's as solid as you say his opinion of CO is going to be akin to yours. If he repops you, you fold. I really don't even like flat calling here in position. What kind of flop are you even hoping for? Give MP2 credit for his hand, and see if they go to showdown for additional information.

All a squeeze play likely causes is: playing a big pot against either a strong or loose opponent, holding A-10. I'm no stat nerd, but I'm sure that you don't have anywhere near the % that they both fold in this spot for this to be profitable, especially with 2 unknowns to act in the blinds behind you. Reeks of Fancy Play Syndrome to me. Besides, you are better than these guys, right? Why start a forest fire with A-10? Wait for a better spot.. Don't even call, just fold pre-flop.

Btw- your image and 50 cents might not even get you a cup of coffee at .25/.50 if the table hasn't been around long enough to care/notice.

Could be a good spot, as you said, there is some 'dead' money in the pot. What kind of hand range do you put the TAG player on? What is your image?

If the TAG isn't too tight, and you have a solid image it might might be worth giving it a shot. If you decide to raise, make it at least $7. $8 would be even better. There will be $6 in the pot after you put in your $1.75, $8 would make it a roughly pot sized raise.

Since my image is TAG the whole point in me reraising is to end the hand right now.

I would rather make a squeeze play with a hand that is easier to play after the flop if you do get called. Something like 45s or T8s. The problem here is if you do get called, and flop an A, then you have yourself a situation where you may lose a lot of chips.

Gopher it!

Keep in mind that if you're going to do this, you must put a decent bet on the flop as well... regardless of what comes. If you're called, you surrender the pot.

Also keep in mind that a squeeze is something you don't attempt too often in lower stakes games.

I don't hate it. I don't love it either, but w/e. I'd probably call and take a flop in position. In the SB it would usually be a fold. If MP2 was LAG I would definitely like the move.

TAGs are capable of making steals w/ marginal hands too. Once the first 3 people fold to him, he knows a raise here could buy him position, if not TID right there.

Guess I'm saying it is all relative. =/

The wider villain's opening range, the better a reraise becomes. If he is opening 100% of pots folded to him then reraising is clearly the best play. If he hasn't opened a pot in 4 hours then reraising here is crazy. Or genius, I'm not sure which.

It's not a squeeze play if I get called. My raise has to get them to fold otherwise I might as well call for the reasons below:



I suppose without reads I call and play a flop with position. With reads and if they're fairly loose players then squeeeeeeze away. I think I should squeeze because the raiser's range is going to be fairly wide since he's MP2 and I'm not worried about CO.

it turned out they had
MP2: 88
CO: A5o
so would a squeeze play of worked here? And by this I mean, would they have both folded preflop.

that just seems like you want us to predict a result to know if you would have been right...i suspect MP2 would have folded his hand, but the CO is a wildcard who could easily call you down with a naked ace

Would HAVE.
Should HAVE.
Could HAVE.

Lern 2 spel.

It's not a squeeze play if there are two players who have yet to act upon their hand behind you before the two players who voluntarily put money into the pot.

You have the button, if you are dead set upon playing ATos in position at a full table, just call and see what the flop brings. Start the fancy play madness after everyone at the table has acted on their hand *twice*, you'll have a lot more information. We could argue that neither MP2 or the CO could call a shove PF, either.. that doesn't mean we should try it.

The squeeze play can often backfire with what I call "Omaha Syndrome", where betting the pot in PLO (creating a bigger pot) can often entice action instead of the desired effect: taking down the pot. We put MP2 on a hand, so if/when he calls, it will price your laggy CO into the monster pot as well, and by the time the action gets back to you post flop, you may be facing a bet and a re-raise. This of course, assuming neither of the blinds raises you pre-flop.. Hold 'em is a game of chances, no doubt, but this just isn't a spot we need to pick to make a squeeze.

Oddly enough, the squeeze is more effective out of the blinds, because of your complete *lack* of position.. You can make everyone fold preflop and get that CB out on the flop as first to act, giving you two reasonable opportunities to take down that big pot.

Sorry if it has come across like that but my underlying question is should I be thinking along the lines of a squeeze or should I be calling and playing post flop. BTW the answer is pretty clear now.




Ha ha, prehaps you should learn to spell!



Yeah, good point. Simo also mentioned to me, since MP2 is tight it might be a bad idea reopening the betting.