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rog
Assuming a heads up pot and no outs burned, who's ahead on 5th in a razz hand.

A234Q
A238T
Moneyball16
Using 500,000 sample simulation.

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=2893930
Razz (7-card Stud A-5 Low): 500000 sampled outcomes
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As Qs 4s 3s 2s 310426 62.09 182091 36.42 7483 1.50 0.628
Ad Td 8d 3d 2d 182091 36.42 310426 62.09 7483 1.50 0.372

The A234Q is way ahead. Twodimes.net is your friend, use it, its great for questions like this.
rog
Thanks for the numbers, and thanks for the link. I use pokerstove for THE, but had not seen a stud calculator. The wheel draw is a lot farther ahead than I thought.
Moneyball16
QUOTE (rog @ Wednesday, July 25th, 2007, 12:24 PM) *
Thanks for the numbers, and thanks for the link. I use pokerstove for THE, but had not seen a stud calculator. The wheel draw is a lot farther ahead than I thought.


Me too. I though it would be 55-45 or something. Pokerstove needs to come out with versions for different games cause for holdem PokerStove is one of the greatest tools ever made.
aadams_22
QUOTE (Moneyball16 @ Wednesday, July 25th, 2007, 1:16 PM) *
Twodimes.net is your friend, use it, its great for questions like this.


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Frez
A wheel draw on 5th is a favourite against a made 9, let alone a T-8...

If you've got the wheel draw, it is correct to jam 5th here.
HangukMiguk
QUOTE (Moneyball16 @ Wednesday, July 25th, 2007, 1:33 PM) *
Pokerstove needs to come out with versions for different games cause for holdem PokerStove is one of the greatest tools ever made.

QFT

If I had something to calculate ranges in Razz, and not just exact hands, that would improve my game much more.

And Frez is right about the wheel draw>made nine statement. It's how I get a ton of chips in Razz.
rog
QUOTE (HangukMiguk @ Monday, July 30th, 2007, 9:24 PM) *
And Frez is right about the wheel draw>made nine statement. It's how I get a ton of chips in Razz.


Doesn't it depend entirely on exactly how good the 9 is? 95 and 94 are also wheel draws. 96 kills a lot of outs form your low draw. At what point does the advantage swing? I'll check with twodimes after work I guess. Just making the point.

edit: Apparently a 9-6 is pretty even with a K-4 depending on exactly which cards below 6 the 9 low holds. 9-s is a clear loser to the wheel draw. with no outs burned.
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