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JesterSB
Ok, I'm really trying to improve my Razz game. Is this line ok or should I have folded at some point?

Razz ($0.50/$1.00), Ante $0.05, Bring-In $0.25 (converter)

3rd Street - (0.60 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx A icon_suit_spade.gif ___calls___calls
Seat 2: xx xx 5 icon_suit_spade.gif ___folds
Seat 3: xx xx 3 icon_suit_diamond.gif ___folds
Hero: 5 icon_suit_diamond.gif A icon_suit_heart.gif 4 icon_suit_heart.gif ___raises
Seat 5: xx xx 9 icon_suit_heart.gif ___brings-in___folds
Seat 8: xx xx 2 icon_suit_spade.gif ___raises___folds

4th Street - (6.10 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx A icon_suit_spade.gif 7 icon_suit_diamond.gif ___bets
Hero: 5 icon_suit_diamond.gif A icon_suit_heart.gif 4 icon_suit_heart.gif 9 icon_suit_diamond.gif ___calls

5th Street - (4.05 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx A icon_suit_spade.gif 7 icon_suit_diamond.gif 2 icon_suit_diamond.gif ___bets
Hero: 5 icon_suit_diamond.gif A icon_suit_heart.gif 4 icon_suit_heart.gif 9 icon_suit_diamond.gif 8 icon_suit_heart.gif ___calls

6th Street - (6.05 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx A icon_suit_spade.gif 7 icon_suit_diamond.gif 2 icon_suit_diamond.gif 8 icon_suit_diamond.gif ___bets
Hero: 5 icon_suit_diamond.gif A icon_suit_heart.gif 4 icon_suit_heart.gif 9 icon_suit_diamond.gif 8 icon_suit_heart.gif 6 :heart:___calls

River - (8.05 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx A icon_suit_spade.gif 7 icon_suit_diamond.gif 2 icon_suit_diamond.gif 8 icon_suit_diamond.gif xx___bets
Hero: 5 icon_suit_diamond.gif A icon_suit_heart.gif 4 icon_suit_heart.gif 9 icon_suit_diamond.gif 8 icon_suit_heart.gif 6 icon_suit_heart.gif T icon_suit_heart.gif ___calls

Total pot: (10.05 BB)
fitzinabox
good starting hand but u really need to catch a 2 or 3 there to make it a powerful hand. Looks like u were crushed am i right? on 5th when he caught a 2 for A27 showing and u caught an 8 for a 589 board u probably should of folded there But i know razz is all about chasing and whatnot... U lsot the hand right?? BTW i am no razz expert but do play it a good bit
aadams_22
3rd: good play imo, although a 2 and a 3 are now gone so are two cards that can pair you up later
4th: I have no problem with the call, but be ready to fold 5th if you don't catch well
5th: you didn't catch well, he caught very well, and the bets double on 5th street...I fold here

QUOTE (fitzinabox @ Saturday, July 21st, 2007, 6:34 PM) *
good starting hand but u really need to catch a 2 or 3 there to make it a powerful hand. Looks like u were crushed am i right? on 5th when he caught a 2 for A27 showing and u caught an 8 for a 589 board u probably should of folded there But i know razz is all about chasing and whatnot... U lsot the hand right?? BTW i am no razz expert but do play it a good bit


ummmmm, no
sabes99
fold on 5...the way he played this hand, it looks like to me your draw isn't even to the winning hand, he could have a made 7 already...even if the 2 paired him, then you're only a small favorite over his 7 draw
fitzinabox
QUOTE (aadams_22 @ Saturday, July 21st, 2007, 7:43 PM) *
3rd: good play imo, although a 2 and a 3 are now gone so are two cards that can pair you up later
4th: I have no problem with the call, but be ready to fold 5th if you don't catch well
5th: you didn't catch well, he caught very well, and the bets double on 5th street...I fold here
ummmmm, no

o rly people dont chase cards in razz?? thats news to me
aadams_22
QUOTE (fitzinabox @ Sunday, July 22nd, 2007, 8:52 PM) *
o rly people dont chase cards in razz?? thats news to me


I didn't say that, I was rebutting your assertion that the premise of "Razz is all about chasing and whatnot," which is innately asinine. There is a lot of skill and hand reading ability involved in the game. Only the long time losers continually chase hands. The ones who win at the game know when to let a hand go, know what helpful cards are gone, and know how many outs they have to make their hand. That's not to say that they won't chase a hand now and then, but it's the exception and not the rule.
JesterSB
Okay, it's been long enough to give results...I only called down because this is .50/1 and the players can be really nitty. He ended up showing an 8-7 and my 8-6 was good. I was pretty sure I was supposed to fold on 5th, but I got lucky. After not folding 5th, I have to call down with the 8-6 right? I am getting 7-1 and 9-1 on 6th and 7th.
HangukMiguk
QUOTE (JesterSB @ Monday, July 23rd, 2007, 8:46 AM) *
After not folding 5th, I have to call down with the 8-6 right? I am getting 7-1 and 9-1 on 6th and 7th.

Yes. And unless I have a very good reason to think the villain paired, I fold 5th.
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