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No_Neck
33/5/1.5 after a paltry 21 hands

Poker Stars
Pot Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
8 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $23.55
Hero: $41.65
MP1: $41.90
MP2: $29.25
CO: $20.70
Button: $13.55
SB: $9.90
BB: $14.40

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is UTG+1 with 3 icon_suit_diamond.gif 5 icon_suit_diamond.gif
UTG folds, Hero calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls, BB checks.

Flop: A icon_suit_diamond.gif 7 icon_suit_diamond.gif 6 icon_suit_heart.gif ($1.25, 5 players)
SB checks, BB bets $0.25, Hero raises to $1.75, MP2 raises to $3.25, 3 folds, Hero calls.

Turn: T icon_suit_spade.gif ($8, 2 players)
Hero ????
No_Neck
i know i should have pushed the flop but i misclicked while I was chatting with Naismith about our impending domination of the 100k.

Now what do I do?
Money022
Very interesting spot. Limped pot preflop and now he's raising your raise on the flop. Not sure that anyone does this on a draw. That's the big question because you need to be pretty sure your 5 high flush draw is live. I would probably favor a check and call anything up to a 1/2 pot bet and pray that the 4s peels off on the river so you don't have to wonder if your flush draw is good.
throwemaway
I would fold preflop. 100 percent of the time.

I would never shove the flop with just a gut shot and 5 high flush draw after the guy 3 bets, thus would probably call..

Turn, I think I have to check here and try to draw for a relatively cheap price..
No_Neck
wait I remember why we can't shovel.... this is pot limit. oops.
Money022
QUOTE (No_Neck @ Saturday, July 21st, 2007, 1:10 PM) *
wait I remember why we can't shovel.... this is pot limit. oops.

Wrong. You can actually shovel in Pot Limit HE on the third Saturday of each month. I still wouldn't do it though.
No_Neck
QUOTE (Money022 @ Saturday, July 21st, 2007, 2:15 PM) *
Wrong. You can actually shovel in Pot Limit HE on the third Saturday of each month. I still wouldn't do it though.



damn the third Saturday in July, that is crazy. I want it to be summer all year around.
sabes99
i would just check, and look to see how much he wants to bet...basically, then, it comes down to a math problem, it's just that simple because he obviously has a hand and isn't folding
mtdesmoines
QUOTE (sabes99 @ Saturday, July 21st, 2007, 10:51 AM) *
i would just check, and look to see how much he wants to bet...basically, then, it comes down to a math problem, it's just that simple because he obviously has a hand and isn't folding


IF it's pot limit, then check call. Right?
sabes99
QUOTE (mtdesmoines @ Saturday, July 21st, 2007, 12:59 PM) *
IF it's pot limit, then check call. Right?


yesssssssir
No_Neck
alright I check and villian insta bets pot.... fold call or raise.
mtdesmoines
QUOTE (No_Neck @ Saturday, July 21st, 2007, 3:26 PM) *
alright I check and villian insta bets pot.... fold call or raise.


insta call, evaluate river, if we hit our hand in any way, insta pot.
sabes99
QUOTE (mtdesmoines @ Saturday, July 21st, 2007, 3:28 PM) *
insta call, evaluate river, if we hit our hand in any way, insta pot.
shinzilla
QUOTE (mtdesmoines @ Saturday, July 21st, 2007, 4:28 PM) *
insta call, evaluate river, if we hit our hand in any way, insta pot.


Doesn't that make our hand very transparent? Against a thinking player, I don't think this will be a profitable line in the long run.
sabes99
QUOTE (shinzilla @ Saturday, July 21st, 2007, 5:16 PM) *
Doesn't that make our hand very transparent? Against a thinking player, I don't think this will be a profitable line in the long run.


what would you like us to do then? c/f is an option if he pots it, but just about any other bet we have to call for the price, with the implied odds making up some of the difference...c/r is very dangerous because we are up against a made hand almost every single time here, and since it's pot-limit we can't raise enough to force a big laydown

if we hit our hand and check the river he may not bet anyways

i agree c/c is very transparent but i don't see a more profitable way to play it
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