$25 6-max NL on FTP

I didn't have PT open but villain is a multi-tabling TAG. A hand which stuck with me was that he called flop and turn bets OOP with 67 on a 733KJ board. Checked on all streets. On this particular hand, I couldn't put him on anything I was beating when he fired on the river. I figure a set would've slowed down at some point.

Hero has $26 and change
Villain covers

Hero is dealt [A J ]

Hero raises to $1
3 folds
Villain calls .75
1 fold

Flop [ Q T 9 ]
($2.50)

Villain checks
Hero bets $1.50
Villain raises to $3.00
Hero calls $1.50

Turn [ Q T 9 ] [ 8 ]
($8.50)

Villain bets $7
Hero calls $7

River [ Q T 9 ] [ 8 ] [A ]
($22.50)

Villain bets $15, and is all-in
Hero folds

I hated my spot on the river, especially when I'm getting such a good price, but I think I can avoid it by:

1) Checking behind on the flop. Yes, I got a piece of the flop, but with my hand I hate being raised and I like free cards. With the Ac, OTOH, I think a bet is fine as I don't mind getting it all-in.

2) Folding the turn. I figured that such a TAG player had to have a monster here...I suppose he could've flopped a set or two pair, and that's why I just called on the turn, figuring he'd slow down on the river. But when he fired that last chamber I put him on either KJ or some sorta flush, and mucked.

3) 3-bet shoving the flop, as played. Against an unknown I probably do this.

i dont see how you folded the river as this was played...

why'd you stick around on the flop / turn? were you really ONLY looking for like the Kc or 8c??

after you've made your straight, you beat anything but K J & a flush... sure i know you had an OESFD & obv the reason you stayed around on the flop & turn... but you should have made your decision on the turn: after he bets $7 he's basically saying "i'm all in on the river no matter what comes" and if you're gonna call the turn, i dont feel you can fold the river if it bricks out... i think your most crucial decision comes on the turn IMO... you could easily have the lone Ac in your hand the way you're playing this out so far... i can't see him having a set as i'd assume a TAG would reraise PF OOP & take the lead w/ holdings like 99 10 10 QQ... i can see him having flopped a small flush or maybe even a hand like 9 10 or Q 10... you never raised him once, so he very well may think he's vs like AcQx or Ac 10x or something...


i make the crying call as this was played... but personally, i'd have made my decision on the flop / turn... now that i think about it, i might have actually tested the waters w/ a 3bet on the flop... maybe to say $6 or so... you have position & the betting lead (you keep the betting lead if he just calls... personally i'd shove if he called & checked the turn to me)... that way if he shovels, you can get away from your OESFD (it's not like both your hole cards comprise this draw as if you had QcJc on a 9c 10c x board - it's as naked as it can be & it's possible you're already drawing to 2 outs) for the like $25 more he'd raise you... if he's already there...

this will get most hands (that aren't crushing you) to lay down here IMO.. & maybe even fold a small flush...

Why would you fold here. Just give up poker and shoot your self. Call flop and turn bets but not river?
I have a home game your invited to anytime. Why are so many people on here trying to make great
laydowns and then beg for reasurrance.

I already know that the river fold is weak. Why do you think my title is "I'm the worst"? I'm asking for alternative ways to play the hand so that I'm not facing such a tough river call. One poster suggested 3-betting the flop. You, by contrast, have little to contribute here - as I'm sure is the case elsewhere in your life.

I think you played it fine except for the fold on the river. You have to bet the flop, I c-bet heads up almost 100% of the time. You can't be folding to min raises.

The turn if you think he has the flush fold if not call (you could raise here too)

The river should be a call since you called on the turn.

all of this is IMHO

All in on the turn

sexy

I like this best. He fires on the turn with two pair and sets, and we're ahead of those...and we've got redraws against KJ. Sucks though when he's got Acxc.

We should have 2 outs regardless. If he HAS the flush, then we hope it's a smaller one and we'll have 7 outs. We often find ourself with the best hand and if he's drawing to a flush that's better than ours, we make him pay for it.

You don't have business telling him he's terrible because he folded the river in this one particular case. It was bad play odds wise, but it certainly seemed like the guy had him beat the whole way. It was just a read-based play. And it's not even begging for reassurance, he openly said he played the hand bad. Good job offering no strategy and just flaming it up, sir.

Anyway, Acid is quite right. Looking on the brightside, you can't be drawing stone dead on the turn (unless he randomly shows up with K8c), and you are ahead of quite a few hands he could have, or are drawing pretty live to beat him. The river play was just terrible because sometimes people get caught up betting when they are in the lead, so he easily could feel he has to fire the river to win and feels you bricked drawing with the Ac. If you were calling that turn, it's an easy push instead. NLHE rewards bold and aggressive plays, and this is a good time to make one.

i found it kind of funny that he chose to quote me & then bash the OP...

at first i was like "wait wtf i wasn't in the hand... whats this guy talking about???"


idk how i overlooked the all in turn action... i believe i said i'd do it if i 3bet the flop & he flat called then checked the turn... i like acid's suggestion to shove over the $7 bet on the turn as this was played...