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speedz99
QUOTE (greatwhite @ Friday, July 13th, 2007, 9:44 AM) *
Do you need to try crack to advise someone not to do it? LSD is not as bad, but it's considered a Class A drug for a reason.


No, I don't. That's because crack is extremely addictive even after one use...and we all know what happens to crack addicts.
Miguel McHarris
Has anyone ever heard of Salvia Divinorum? I saw a report on Fox today and supposedly it's the most powerful natural hallucinatory drug and it's completely legal.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,269719,00.html
Shimmering Wang
QUOTE (ShakeZuma @ Thursday, July 12th, 2007, 7:27 PM) *
I always enjoyed being in nature during a trip. didn't really care to be around a bunch of people usually, unless it was at a show (ie phish or widespread). I spent many a night talking to a tree. they're good listeners.


I especially liked hugging them. To feel them breathing.

I can't believe the word "mirror" hasn't been used in this thread...


When I tripped, I had the "epiphanies" that speedz talks about, usually about interpersonal relationships, and the silliness of being hung up on typical, superficial crap. I realized I was being too big of a douchebag around women. Sometimes the next day, I'd realize it was crap, just stupid tree-breathing shroom/LSD nonsense. But I did some pretty good thinking on hallucinogens. One of the biggest life-adjustments I ever made was during a 3 or 4 day trip-fest. I was thinking about my lack of success with women my Freshman year of college, decided that I really didn't care, and that I'd fallen into the trap that I saw everyone else falling into, of acting completely different around women. So I decided to do whatever was funny and goofy, and I still do.

I also had some poker insights, too. I'd think about the game alot, because it was always in the back of my mind, and I've made a few positive adjustments, especially with respect to two-street and/or delayed bluffs (floating the flop and raising the turn heads/up against certain opponents with total air), etc. But playing while tripping was a disaster for me.


Wang
Randy Reed
Ok kiddies. Uncle Randy story times.

Back in 78 when I was 18 I had a really good acid connection and for the next couple of years always had a supply. You quickly learn where and when to do it as has been discussed alot here. For the newbies i'll add a little.

Lsd increases your perception of things vastly. Graphing perception would look something like this.

Heroin Qualudes Valium Normal Speed -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Lsd

Normal conceptions are formed out of a collection of your perceptions. All the vast new perceptions coming in rapidly will cause you to conceptualize likely radical new ideas, or at least they will seem radical. Timothy Leary did a alot of cool experiments to prove these ideas.

Definately stay home with just a few people the first time and build from there. I have friends that go to Kings Island and trip every year. I've seen Santa Claus riding a tractor at 3 AM in the middle of summer down a busy highway. (Really, must have lost a bet or been tripping himself).

We used to make drip-its. Tightly wound large plastic garbage bags that you would melt into a pot of water while laying on the floor looking up at it. Weird I know buy you had to be there.

As also mentioned music is the bomb. Have great stuff available.

You can also drink a case of beer with little effect.

Remember, what goes up comes down. When you eventually are lying in bed trying to sleep but can't, keep happy thoughts or you can lay there for hours feeling depressed. People that generally are depressed or insecure should just not even do the stuff since their perception of themself is likely to be exagerated even worse than usual.

The real fun is just the early stages when you notice everything in the room that is coming into perception that you've never previously noted and laughing your arsering off. Goofy little items and acting goofy is simply a blast. I also agree with the sex thing if it's with the right person.

I have so many trip stories it's not funny, something hilarious always happens. Ihaven't done it for about 15 years. Not that I have anything against it, it's more of a once you done it a hundred times it's not that big a deal and I value sleep to much.
CBass1724
Salvia Homepage
qyayqi
QUOTE (speedz99 @ Friday, July 13th, 2007, 8:45 AM) *
I'm happy for you that you're cool with not doing any serious drugs...to each his own. That said, what gives you any sort of confidence that you should be giving someone else advice about something you've never done? Is there any particular reason why you think he shouldn't try acid once for the experience?


don't allow him this point, actuary, or he'll bring up buttsecks next.
InsanityCubed
QUOTE (greatwhite @ Friday, July 13th, 2007, 1:44 PM) *
Do you need to try crack to advise someone not to do it? LSD is not as bad, but it's considered a Class A drug for a reason.


"The government treats psychedelics as Schedule One drugs, and will lock you up with rapists, pederasts and gang leaders for dealing them because they rip down The Curtain, shredding the necessary fictions - that what most of us are doing from 9 to 5 matters. If the collected citizenry of the United States took acid or mushrooms next Saturday, we'd wake up in a much different world Monday - a much shrewder one. People would chuck an awful lot of allegiances. The world would get a megadose of the actual "thinking outside the box" we like to applaud in each other. The problem is, without the armies of people thinking within the box, the believers, the cogs in the machines that keep the lights on and the roads paved would grind to a halt, or crack under the pressure of millions of seers suddenly manipulating the system instead of working tirelessly to support it.

Psychedelic drugs won't wreck your mind, but they will spoil it, in a very good way. I can't explain it here. I don't think anyone can formulate accurately all you see on them, and only a fool would try. Suffice it to say, they're the ultimate "red pill," and "hallucinogen" a very lacking description. The immediate understanding that you're playing a part on stage is not a hallucination at all. It's arguable what you see when you come down from those mushrooms that's the hallucination. Mushrooms or acid won't give you a blueprint for how to live your life, and only a fool would follow the advice he might give himself under them. What they do - the meat of a strong trip - is take the structures, the social strictures we follow, the false politeness, the talking around what we mean instead of being honest with one another, and feed it into a thresher. Post-"hallucinogen," you understand the necessity of playing your part so you can pay for your cars and home in the suburbs. But you also understand that it's just an acting gig - that none of what you do between 8:00 and 7:00 each day matters in terms of the larger picture... that's it's got as much to do with your self-actualization as what type of sausage you had with breakfast this morning. That is, unless you do something that means something to you. Once on the bus, you understand The Game as you hadn't before. Let's leave it at that. " - Philalawyer.net

If you actually believe the government restricts drug use for your own safety, you're delusional.




QUOTE (Miguel McHarris @ Friday, July 13th, 2007, 2:56 PM) *
Has anyone ever heard of Salvia Divinorum? I saw a report on Fox today and supposedly it's the most powerful natural hallucinatory drug and it's completely legal.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,269719,00.html


Tried it once. Amazing experience, but unfortunately it's hard to remember exactly what happens. I'd describe it as 20-30 minutes of an intense waking dream. All I can remember from my one time is that god was speaking to me, and he was an alien.
kidpkrJR
I haven't tried shrooms or acid myself but this thread is priceless, these stories are great
fryer98
Ok, here's a mushroom story. New Years Eve 02/03, a bunch of us from here in Pittsburgh went to Niagara Falls, ONT to celebrate. There was like 15 of us, including my girlfriend at the time, Sarah. We're at a sport bar, drinking all night, doing shots, just getting wasted, of course. At about 11:40, I decide to hit up the restroom so I won't have to around midnight. I turn from the urinal when I'm done taking my wazz and see these two guys going into a stall together. I must have given them a "WTF? Gaaaaaaaaay?" look (yea, you know you've given that look) cause the one guy was like "Noooo, dude, we're not gay...we're gonna eat some shrooms!" He shows me the bag he has and asks "What some?"

Of course, since this IS a mushroom story, I said I did, and popped some caps. I head back out to our table and keep drinking/hanging out. I was already crazy drunk at this point, so we celebrate the new year, do more shots, I kinda forget that I ate them. I'm sitting there looking at the neon lights all over the ceiling thinking "Woooow, I've never been this drunk before." My girlfriend is asking me if I'm ok, cause she can tell something isn't right. I tell her I'm fine, then it hits me. To self: "Wait, I'm not drunk....I ate mushrooms!" So, I enjoy myself for a little longer, then start freaking out a little because my gf keeps asking me what's wrong cause I'm sitting there all quiet watching people play all these games. I finally walk outside with her and tell her what happened. My favorite part, she isn't mad because I did them, she's mad because I got them from someone I didn't know. Huh? Yea, laugh with me on that one.

So, we head back inside to keep drinking and hang out. All my buddies are then asking what's up, because I'm usually up and talking and moving around. I'm just sitting there laughing at everyone and being quiet. So, my girlfriend tells them all that I'm tripping balls, which, for some reason, made me uncomfortable and I wanted to leave. So, she takes me, and my sloppy drunk brother to the casino to walk around. That...was.....awesome! I was just in a world of my own in this place, walking around and watching people. Then, she has the great idea of wanting to have a serious talk so we walked down to the falls. She puts her back to the falls and is talking to me, while all I can do is look at the colored lights on the water. I have no idea what she was saying, nor did I care.

I haven't done it since and I'm not sure I would, but it was a good experience.
BigDMcGee
Some thoughts...

I don't know if you're into art or not, but for me, one of my favorite things to do whilst tripping is look at art.. I had an art book from the CHicago Art institute that I'd jus devour when I was tripping. Also saw the Van Goth Museum in Amersterdam on mushrooms, and it was truly special.

I personally never liked to stay in the house tripping, I liked to go out on adventures, be it to the park, to the store, just walking around.. it always seemed more fun. Bring lots of fluids.



One time, I took shoorms and play'd a bunch of one table tourney's with my friends, none of whom were tripping. I won 4 out of 6 of the tourneys, my friends were so, so pissed. I was just laughing, and acting really crazy, but playing really tight and just value betting the **** out of my hands, it was hilarious.. some part of me knew my friends were going to be even more suspicious of me and prone to think I was bluffing, so I never, ever did the whole time.. it was great.```
Actuary
QUOTE (speedz99 @ Friday, July 13th, 2007, 8:45 AM) *
I'm happy for you that you're cool with not doing any serious drugs...to each his own. That said, what gives you any sort of confidence that you should be giving someone else advice about something you've never done? Is there any particular reason why you think he shouldn't try acid once for the experience?


I'd prefer to not have another long discussion with you that ends in you not accepting any reason that is not 1. I'm a wuss, 2. I'm lying, 3. I'm an idiot, 4. I'm full of pride, 5. I'm self righteous, etc.
ShakeZuma
QUOTE (greatwhite @ Friday, July 13th, 2007, 11:19 AM) *

this was just, just, well it was freaking brilliant. give the man a free t-shirt.


QUOTE (speedz99 @ Friday, July 13th, 2007, 12:45 PM) *
I love you. I really do.

I also love phish and widespread (or used to and now just enjoy them occasionally)...and have also spent many hours talking to trees. They aren't just good listeners, they have their own stories to tell.
Go on...

so we're basically the same person huh. I'm not actually jewish, but I'm known as "the jew" in my circle of friends because a) I somewhat look jewish, and b)I'm quite cheap.


is this the new sick thread? I'd be ok with that.
ShakeZuma
and please...




TELL ME ABOUT THE FUCKING GOLF SHOES!
greatwhite
QUOTE (InsanityCubed @ Friday, July 13th, 2007, 4:13 PM) *
"The government treats psychedelics as Schedule One drugs, and will lock you up with rapists, pederasts and gang leaders for dealing them because they rip down The Curtain, shredding the necessary fictions - that what most of us are doing from 9 to 5 matters. If the collected citizenry of the United States took acid or mushrooms next Saturday, we'd wake up in a much different world Monday - a much shrewder one. People would chuck an awful lot of allegiances. The world would get a megadose of the actual "thinking outside the box" we like to applaud in each other. The problem is, without the armies of people thinking within the box, the believers, the cogs in the machines that keep the lights on and the roads paved would grind to a halt, or crack under the pressure of millions of seers suddenly manipulating the system instead of working tirelessly to support it.

Psychedelic drugs won't wreck your mind, but they will spoil it, in a very good way. I can't explain it here. I don't think anyone can formulate accurately all you see on them, and only a fool would try. Suffice it to say, they're the ultimate "red pill," and "hallucinogen" a very lacking description. The immediate understanding that you're playing a part on stage is not a hallucination at all. It's arguable what you see when you come down from those mushrooms that's the hallucination. Mushrooms or acid won't give you a blueprint for how to live your life, and only a fool would follow the advice he might give himself under them. What they do - the meat of a strong trip - is take the structures, the social strictures we follow, the false politeness, the talking around what we mean instead of being honest with one another, and feed it into a thresher. Post-"hallucinogen," you understand the necessity of playing your part so you can pay for your cars and home in the suburbs. But you also understand that it's just an acting gig - that none of what you do between 8:00 and 7:00 each day matters in terms of the larger picture... that's it's got as much to do with your self-actualization as what type of sausage you had with breakfast this morning. That is, unless you do something that means something to you. Once on the bus, you understand The Game as you hadn't before. Let's leave it at that. " - Philalawyer.net

If you actually believe the government restricts drug use for your own safety, you're delusional.

Why does government restrict drug use?
Flushgarden
QUOTE (ShakeZuma @ Friday, July 13th, 2007, 3:31 PM) *
is this the new sick thread? I'd be ok with that.



nooooooo not with my name on the front

Never know who I know from the real world might drop by here. I've actually told my boss about this place since he's starting to get into poker.

p.s....if I get the chance and I'm in the right place with the right people I definitely will give it a shot.

I'll try to time travel or something.
coesillian
QUOTE (greatwhite @ Friday, July 13th, 2007, 7:27 PM) *
Why does government restrict drug use?

if they don't allow you to use them and imprision you for minor possesion, people will stop selling bubble_duh.gif

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coesillian
I've done mush 3 or 4 times, speed 3 times and X one time, all since I moved away from home 1 1/2 years ago ( expect for 1 speed when i was younger), and I smoked a bunch of weed.X was my favorite by far, it was a couple weeks ago at St-Jean baptiste, the Quebec National Holiday ( we have considered it a national holiday for a long time and even get a day off when the rest of canada doesn't!). X was faboulous, we were like 8 friends in a crowd of hundreds of thousands celebrating Quebec, it was so intense, I was feeling up a friend of a friend ( with boobs) and she was almost getting off just by me slidding my hands on her body, it was overwhelming but so freaking sexy. Everything feels good. Speed just makes you pumped up, those drugs are scary to me because when you come down you realize you feel alot better on them then off them, like it really feels great. I could see how addictive they can be after the first time I tried them, so only one special occasions will I do them. Speed is cut with alot of dirty stuff usually so I wouldn't re3comend it, go for X, its safer.

I never did LSD, I don't like the concept of poisoned cardboard. I did mush 4 or 5 times. the first few time I was at my appartment with friends, and had some really good times. The last time was at my friends cottage up north. We sat at the fire and had a great time laughing and tripping out. Them we went for a walk around the lake. Proportions were so distorted to me, houses seemed small and faraway and fences were close and huge, the moon was monsterously big and the lake reflected it super brightly, what a great walk. The fire was really entertaining, it always is. I can stare at a fire for hours and be entertained so on mush its just so much better. At one point my buddy handed out these Airheads candies to everyone and we were all like WTF? but WOW. we all agreed it was by far the best tasting thing ever. seriously , it tasted so great.

we had rolling sessions before those 2 nights where we rolled up an Oz into about 20 joints and puffed as we wanted all night long without the hassel of rolling. GOod nights.

LSD isn't available up here very much, even mush is rare. I heard ketamine was a crazy hallucinagen also.
FoxwoodsPro
ive done it al liquid hits.......

one while fu(king

one at work

one while in school

one at newport RI's clill walks








ALL INSANE AND I LOVED ITTTTTTTTTTTT
CBass1724
CANDYBARS!!!!
Actuary
QUOTE (Actuary @ Friday, July 13th, 2007, 1:59 PM) *
I'd prefer to not have another long discussion with you that ends in you not accepting any reason that is not 1. I'm a wuss, 2. I'm lying, 3. I'm an idiot, 4. I'm full of pride, 5. I'm self righteous, etc.


liar.

You just don't won't to cut your own ankles off while tripping.
Yoda
QUOTE (CBass1724 @ Friday, July 13th, 2007, 10:00 PM) *
CANDYBARS!!!!


hank213
QUOTE (FoxwoodsPro @ Friday, July 13th, 2007, 8:00 PM) *
ive done it al liquid hits.......

one while fu(king

one at work

one while in school

one at newport RI's clill walks
ALL INSANE AND I LOVED ITTTTTTTTTTTT



Even though this guy has endorsed the use of hallucinogens you should still give them a try if you're so inclined.
vvganeshavv
QUOTE (greatwhite @ Friday, July 13th, 2007, 4:16 PM) *
I'd rather do 100 hours of community service then try LSD


then why the fuck are u in this thread?

QUOTE (speedz99 @ Friday, July 13th, 2007, 4:45 PM) *
Go on...


u really don't want to hear this story it involves woodpeckers...lol
Allie
QUOTE (Canuckickstan @ Thursday, July 12th, 2007, 3:12 PM) *
They used to have "Midnight Madness" at the Calgary Stampede years ago where all the rides were free from midnight to 6 am. We would stay up all night on Cid and crash the Chinook stampede breakfast in the AM. Good times.



Omfg.......!!


I'd bet you 100 bucks that we were both at a few of these at the same time. tongue.gif


I spent a few Midnight Madness-es-es-es high on acid. Midnight Madness was the total shiz!
Allie
QUOTE (renaedawn @ Thursday, July 12th, 2007, 7:57 PM) *
Yep. It's really not that bad though. I've found that most of it is mental. If I sit and think for several seconds about how bad they're going to taste they taste 10x worse than if I just shove them in my mouth and chew really fast.



I hate the taste of them. I always took them like pills....put a few at a time, on my tongue and wash them down with whatever alcohol I was drinking.
sealster
I have to say I'm quite curious about shrooms and have considered doing them before. I like all the advice that has been given so far and the stories have been great so I am a bit more inclined to try them now but still have my doubts. This thread is cool as people are being so open and honest so I just want to thank everyone who has contributed so far.
fryer98
QUOTE (ShakeZuma @ Friday, July 13th, 2007, 6:31 PM) *
this was just, just, well it was freaking brilliant. give the man a free t-shirt.

Thank you, sir. I heart T shirts.
sacopoo
Drugs are bad.
runthemover
QUOTE (sealster @ Friday, July 13th, 2007, 11:23 PM) *
I have to say I'm quite curious about shrooms and have considered doing them before. I like all the advice that has been given so far and the stories have been great so I am a bit more inclined to try them now but still have my doubts. This thread is cool as people are being so open and honest so I just want to thank everyone who has contributed so far.

not that I've ever done anything ever, but hits off a vaporizer when coming down is very nice. I would advise you to have a 'guide' aka sober person because not only is it practical, but also it can put you at ease slightly whilst freaking out
hblask
I just read a scientific article that pretty much confirmed what people were saying about mushrooms in this thread -- that they usually have long-lasting, positive, life-changing effects, and basically no side effects (except possibly fear and paranoia during the trip). This was with double-blind scientific studies, and long-term followups.

The question I didn't see answered in here is, say, just in theory, that someone wanted to get hold of some, but couldn't risk being arrested or any other legal hassles, and needs someone who can be trusted.... how would that person get hold of them? And this person has no connections to drug dealers, etc....?
El Guapo
QUOTE (hblask @ Wednesday, September 19th, 2007, 12:05 PM) *
I just read a scientific article that pretty much confirmed what people were saying about mushrooms in this thread -- that they usually have long-lasting, positive, life-changing effects, and basically no side effects (except possibly fear and paranoia during the trip). This was with double-blind scientific studies, and long-term followups.

The question I didn't see answered in here is, say, just in theory, that someone wanted to get hold of some, but couldn't risk being arrested or any other legal hassles, and needs someone who can be trusted.... how would that person get hold of them? And this person has no connections to drug dealers, etc....?


Except the damage to your liver and if you take too much it is possible to die.
hank213
QUOTE (hblask @ Wednesday, September 19th, 2007, 1:05 PM) *
I just read a scientific article that pretty much confirmed what people were saying about mushrooms in this thread -- that they usually have long-lasting, positive, life-changing effects, and basically no side effects (except possibly fear and paranoia during the trip). This was with double-blind scientific studies, and long-term followups.

The question I didn't see answered in here is, say, just in theory, that someone wanted to get hold of some, but couldn't risk being arrested or any other legal hassles, and needs someone who can be trusted.... how would that person get hold of them? And this person has no connections to drug dealers, etc....?


Amsterdam?
hblask
QUOTE (El Guapo @ Wednesday, September 19th, 2007, 2:10 PM) *
Except the damage to your liver and if you take too much it is possible to die.


They didn't mention those in the article, but of course, they would know the correct dosage and are not likely to overdose their subjects.
BigDMcGee
QUOTE (El Guapo @ Wednesday, September 19th, 2007, 11:10 AM) *
Except the damage to your liver and if you take too much it is possible to die.



psilocybin mushrooms don't cause liver damage, but there are poisonous mushrooms, sometimes found side by side with psilocybin mushrooms, that do cause liver damage, so there is a risk if you don't know what mushrooms you're looking for, or you're on drugs while you're mushroom hunting or are generally stupid. That said, I don't know a single person who's ever been poisoned by taking mushrooms, or taking the wrong ones, and I've known plenty of people who have taken plenty of mushrooms.
speedz99
QUOTE (hblask @ Wednesday, September 19th, 2007, 11:05 AM) *
I just read a scientific article that pretty much confirmed what people were saying about mushrooms in this thread


And here some of you thought we were all just delusional drug addicts.

QUOTE (hblask @ Wednesday, September 19th, 2007, 11:05 AM) *
-- that they usually have long-lasting, positive, life-changing effects, and basically no side effects (except possibly fear and paranoia during the trip). This was with double-blind scientific studies, and long-term followups.

The question I didn't see answered in here is, say, just in theory, that someone wanted to get hold of some, but couldn't risk being arrested or any other legal hassles, and needs someone who can be trusted.... how would that person get hold of them? And this person has no connections to drug dealers, etc....?


You don't know someone that knows someone that can get mushrooms for you? As long as you're not actually the one going to the dealer to pick them up there's essentially no chance of getting caught (as long as you use them responsibly).

QUOTE (Actuary @ Friday, July 13th, 2007, 6:15 PM) *
liar.

You just don't won't to cut your own ankles off while tripping.


Isn't that supposed to be my line?

QUOTE (Miguel McHarris @ Friday, July 13th, 2007, 10:56 AM) *
Has anyone ever heard of Salvia Divinorum? I saw a report on Fox today and supposedly it's the most powerful natural hallucinatory drug and it's completely legal.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,269719,00.html


Iiiiiiiiinteresting. I thought I was done tripping, mostly because I can't really handle an eight hour trip anymore. I'd love to go on a 15 minute trip though, since at the moment I'm content with my life in a way I haven't been for a long time.
bigkg
QUOTE (speedz99 @ Wednesday, September 19th, 2007, 4:40 PM) *
And here some of you thought we were all just delusional drug addicts.



You don't know someone that knows someone that can get mushrooms for you? As long as you're not actually the one going to the dealer to pick them up there's essentially no chance of getting caught (as long as you use them responsibly).
Isn't that supposed to be my line?
Iiiiiiiiinteresting. I thought I was done tripping, mostly because I can't really handle an eight hour trip anymore. I'd love to go on a 15 minute trip though, since at the moment I'm content with my life in a way I haven't been for a long time.


I've done Salvia before, I took it and it didn't do shit. About 5 hours after taking it I go to sleep at 4 am, wake up 2 hours later. When I woke up I thought there were 10 other people in the room with me and bugs crawling all over me. It was one of the worst experiences in my life. This may have had nothing to do with the Salvia, but just in case it did, I'm not touching it again.
speedz99
QUOTE (bigkg @ Wednesday, September 19th, 2007, 2:02 PM) *
I've done Salvia before, I took it and it didn't do shit. About 5 hours after taking it I go to sleep at 4 am, wake up 2 hours later. When I woke up I thought there were 10 other people in the room with me and bugs crawling all over me. It was one of the worst experiences in my life. This may have had nothing to do with the Salvia, but just in case it did, I'm not touching it again.


Well that's slightly unnerving.
runthemover
QUOTE (speedz99 @ Wednesday, September 19th, 2007, 3:03 PM) *
Well that's slightly unnerving.

well normally it's only supposed to be a 5 minute very intense high and you'll be back to 'normal' in about 20 minutes. usually it's best to just put it on top of a 'green' bowl and smoke them together. his experience wasn't anywhere close to normal.
mtdesmoines
QUOTE (Flushgarden @ Wednesday, July 11th, 2007, 7:29 PM) *
Just once.

Anybody ever?



http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...howtopic=108038


try skydiving instead
Don Giovanni
recently i did both mushrooms and lsd for the first time. though i had done some lsd type stuff called 2ci previously. the mushrooms were a rip off, all they did was make me feel really high for a long time, but thats cause i was smoking too. the lsd however was everything i thought it would be.

i did it with some good friends in their apartment where nothing could go wrong and nothing did. listened to some good music and just chilled the whole time basically. one of the highlights was fingerpainting on the walls of their basement. we made a pretty crazy looking mural thats still there. at the peak of effects everything looked more 3d and colors were bleeding into each other and flowing off the walls. and then we watched like 8 episodes of the office as we were coming down. good times.
digitalmonkey
QUOTE (bigkg @ Wednesday, September 19th, 2007, 6:02 PM) *
I've done Salvia before, I took it and it didn't do shit. About 5 hours after taking it I go to sleep at 4 am, wake up 2 hours later. When I woke up I thought there were 10 other people in the room with me and bugs crawling all over me. It was one of the worst experiences in my life. This may have had nothing to do with the Salvia, but just in case it did, I'm not touching it again.



Isn't that the stuff you can buy at the health food store?
coesillian
QUOTE (hblask @ Wednesday, September 19th, 2007, 3:05 PM) *
I just read a scientific article that pretty much confirmed what people were saying about mushrooms in this thread -- that they usually have long-lasting, positive, life-changing effects, and basically no side effects (except possibly fear and paranoia during the trip). This was with double-blind scientific studies, and long-term followups.

The question I didn't see answered in here is, say, just in theory, that someone wanted to get hold of some, but couldn't risk being arrested or any other legal hassles, and needs someone who can be trusted.... how would that person get hold of them? And this person has no connections to drug dealers, etc....?


if you know any 13-20 years olds try asking them if they have friends who could hook you up
bigkg
QUOTE (digitalmonkey @ Wednesday, September 19th, 2007, 8:15 PM) *
Isn't that the stuff you can buy at the health food store?


I think so, but my friend got it, so I have no idea.
speedz99
QUOTE (digitalmonkey @ Wednesday, September 19th, 2007, 5:15 PM) *
Isn't that the stuff you can buy at the health food store?


I'm pretty sure you absolutely cannot buy it at health food stores.

I just found out that my close friend's brother (who I'm also friends with) has a bunch of it. Apparently his friend did it a few times in some foreign country which I forget the name of at the moment and brought plenty back with him. Anyways, my friend's brother wrote a long email about the effects that it had on him, and it sounds very very appealing. He's done shrooms and acid, and said that this is a whole new level and experience. He describes it at 10 minutes on another plane of existance...which taken at face value is of course ridiculous, but when it comes to introspective drugs perception is reality.

I'm trying it in the next few months or so, and will give a full report.
digitalmonkey
QUOTE (speedz99 @ Thursday, September 20th, 2007, 2:35 PM) *
I'm pretty sure you absolutely cannot buy it at health food stores.

I just found out that my close friend's brother (who I'm also friends with) has a bunch of it. Apparently his friend did it a few times in some foreign country which I forget the name of at the moment and brought plenty back with him. Anyways, my friend's brother wrote a long email about the effects that it had on him, and it sounds very very appealing. He's done shrooms and acid, and said that this is a whole new level and experience. He describes it at 10 minutes on another plane of existance...which taken at face value is of course ridiculous, but when it comes to introspective drugs perception is reality.

I'm trying it in the next few months or so, and will give a full report.



Looking forward to the repot.

Nice av by the way, I miss that show.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvia_divinorum




Purchased at a convenience store in Canada.
RonBurgundy
QUOTE (Jadaki @ Thursday, July 12th, 2007, 3:17 PM) *
Oh and taking a crap while tripping is a bad idea... JS.

the bathroom in general is just not a good place when tripping IMO
fryer98
QUOTE (RonBurgundy @ Thursday, September 20th, 2007, 4:35 PM) *
the bathroom in general is just not a good place when tripping IMO

Go to your room!
RonBurgundy
QUOTE (runthemover @ Wednesday, September 19th, 2007, 6:13 PM) *
well normally it's only supposed to be a 5 minute very intense high and you'll be back to 'normal' in about 20 minutes. usually it's best to just put it on top of a 'green' bowl and smoke them together. his experience wasn't anywhere close to normal.

part of the dilemma with salvia where some people will say it did nothing at all and others describe a super intense experience is that the chemicals in salvia need a higher temperature to burn, so you need a butane lighter to get the full effect.
speedz99
QUOTE (RonBurgundy @ Thursday, September 20th, 2007, 12:56 PM) *
part of the dilemma with salvia where some people will say it did nothing at all and others describe a super intense experience is that the chemicals in salvia need a higher temperature to burn, so you need a butane lighter to get the full effect.


My friend has a vaporizer, which is supposed to be the best way to do it.
Don Giovanni
ive heard almost unanimously that salvia is bad times, even from my hard core druggie friends
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