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BudBundy
Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
4 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $25
Hero: $37.50
SB: $33.20
BB: $9.35

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is Button with J icon_suit_diamond.gif T icon_suit_heart.gif 8 icon_suit_club.gif 9 icon_suit_club.gif
UTG raises to $0.85, Hero raises to $2.9, 2 folds, UTG raises to $9.9, Hero calls.

Flop: 6 icon_suit_club.gif Q icon_suit_club.gif 4 icon_suit_diamond.gif ($20.15, 2 players)
UTG is all-in $15.95, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $15.95 returned to UTG.

Results:
Final pot: $20.15

I can't fold this to the repot preflop can i? I am getting around 2 to 1. How much of an underdog can i be?

UTG is 35/22/7
simo_8ball
Obviously I play it the same preflop.

I might call the flop. It's pretty close. Seems quite blatant that he has AAxx, and you're only about a 3:2 dog against AAxx. Factor in that he is more likely to play the hand this strong with suited aces and I think it's kinda borderline.
BudBundy
I don't get why you might call flop.
simo_8ball
QUOTE (BudBundy @ Monday, July 9th, 2007, 4:29 PM) *
I don't get why you might call flop.

Against a pure range of AAxx you are about 40%. You only need slightly over 30%.

If you think he is more likely to use this line with suited aces your equity probably drops to around the breakeven point.

Oh, and most importantly because I'm an idiot who draws to 9 high flushes and retarded backdoor straights and two pairs. Basically.
bdc30
QUOTE (simo_8ball @ Monday, July 9th, 2007, 7:39 AM) *
Against a pure range of AAxx you are about 40%. You only need slightly over 30%.

If you think he is more likely to use this line with suited aces your equity probably drops to around the breakeven point.

Oh, and most importantly because I'm an idiot who draws to 9 high flushes and retarded backdoor straights and two pairs. Basically.


Ya, that second one...lol
Flop is an insta fold. Save yourself the 3/4 buyin.
sabes99
i think it's somewhat close, but if he has ace high clubs you're going for a long ride, so i probably dump it
simo_8ball
Against AAKK w/ no clubs we are over 46%.

Against AAJT w/ no clubs we are over 45%.

Against AAQQ we are 36%.

We are only ever in trouble if he has clubs, in which case we are 20%.
BudBundy
QUOTE (simo_8ball @ Monday, July 9th, 2007, 6:39 PM) *
Oh, and most importantly because I'm an idiot who draws to 9 high flushes and retarded backdoor straights and two pairs. Basically.


That makes two of us then.

Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $56.50
UTG+1: $50
CO: $66.55
Hero: $49.70
SB: $16.60
BB: $76.40

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with T icon_suit_club.gif 9 icon_suit_diamond.gif 6 icon_suit_club.gif 8 icon_suit_diamond.gif
UTG folds, CO raises to $1.75, Hero calls, SB folds, BB raises to $7.25, CO folds, Hero calls.

Flop: K icon_suit_diamond.gif 3 icon_suit_spade.gif Q icon_suit_diamond.gif ($16.5, 3 players)
BB bets $16.5, Hero calls.

Turn: 5 icon_suit_diamond.gif ($49.5, 3 players)
BB bets $49.5, Hero calls all-in $25.95.
Uncalled bets: $23.55 returned to BB.

River: 9 icon_suit_club.gif ($124.95, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $101.4, Sidepot 1: $23.55)


Results:
Final pot: $124.95
Hero showed Tc 9d 6c 8d
BB showed Ac As 6d 6s
meservery
Re-re-re Pot Preflop.
simo_8ball
QUOTE (meservery @ Monday, July 9th, 2007, 11:18 PM) *
Re-re-re Pot Preflop.

Nah. We are behind and we know he is shoving most flops.
meservery
QUOTE (simo_8ball @ Monday, July 9th, 2007, 6:23 PM) *
Nah. We are behind and we know he is shoving most flops.

If you plan on calling that flop. Might as well gamble it up the whole way. Meta game.
simo_8ball
QUOTE (meservery @ Tuesday, July 10th, 2007, 1:47 AM) *
If you plan on calling that flop. Might as well gamble it up the whole way. Meta game.

Shoving preflop is -EV. We have $2.9 invested and we are ~40% against AAxx. Calling to see a favourable flop is +EV because we call $6 to potentially win his stack. Here we have flopped a flush draw with backdoor straights possible, and we are likely to be against one overpair.

This is a better flop than it looks.
meservery
QUOTE (simo_8ball @ Monday, July 9th, 2007, 8:57 PM) *
Shoving preflop is -EV. We have $2.9 invested and we are ~40% against AAxx. Calling to see a favourable flop is +EV because we call $6 to potentially win his stack. Here we have flopped a flush draw with backdoor straights possible, and we are likely to be against one overpair.

This is a better flop than it looks.

lol. i'm retarded. i didnt even see the flush draw... but i play with teh four color deck so yeah.
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