PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)

Hero ($82.65)
UTG ($19.20)
MP ($11.85)
CO ($24.65)
Button ($2.90)
SB ($77.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6 , 7 , A , A .
UTG raises to $0.85, 1 fold, CO calls $0.85, Button calls $0.85, SB calls $0.75, Hero raises to $5.1, UTG calls $4.25, CO calls $4.25, Button calls $2.05 (All-In), SB calls $4.25.

Flop: ($23.30) 5 , 6 , J (5 players, 1 all-in)
SB checks, Hero bets $22.15

help me

wow. i dunno what how you're expecting to make everyone fold with a pot sized bet... I'd just give it up against all those opponents and fight another day.

That means check/fold.

As pretty as your hand is, and as much as it seems like the right play, don't repot this preflop. You announce to the whole table that you have aces, and that makes you very exploitable postflop. This is one of the most difficult habits to break when you are familiar with holdem. Aces in PLO are very difficult to play postflop unless you hit a set or flop a flush/straight.

You were very unlucky that the flop brought only a 6 to help you, but potting (essentially) unimproved dry aces with no draw in a 5 way pot is about as close to suicide as it's possible to get. Having said that, only one opponent has over a pot sized bet left. I'm honestly pretty clueless as to the best play on the flop. I'm looking at all the options and not liking any of them. Check/fold is probably your best option, but you are relatively likely to have the best hand (although there can easily be some superdraws out against you).

Ultimately, don't repot a multiway pot preflop out of position unless it's maybe AAJT/AKQJ/etc. or with AAxx if you can get over about 40% of your stack in preflop.

I don't like the re pot preflop as said you are oop and and not likely to really thin the field here. This flop sucks balls, I'm check/folding here.

Don't we have a big enough equity edge on the field to re-raise preflop?
Maybe we get it HU it UTG shoves


Are we beihnd sets too much to shove the flop?

I was hoping SB's check was not trikery, but legit weak hand. So I was trying to charge FD's.

Is SB still yet to act, a factor in the c/f decision?

I appreciate all the help even from the queers.

i actually like the re-pot pf, i do agree with simo but the aces have some help behind them being double-suited, and a re-pot should have narrowed the field some(but it didn't)

on the flop you are essentially in no-man's land, i think i make a smaller bet, around $12 or so...you are straddling the fence by betting $12 i think, if anyone has missed they will fold, if SB raises you can fold...the problem with making a smallish bet would be that you give SB the option of smooth-calling with a lot left behind, at which point you could be in no-man's land on the turn...however, if he does just flat-call, there are so many danger turn cards that we will be c/f most of the time, and not have to worry about making a difficult decision on that street, which i think is why a smaller bet might work

overall, that is just a ridiculously tough spot to be in

the fact that everybody has so little left except the sb makes me want to bet this flop. bet the exact amount of the biggest stack that can call you all in so you lose the least if the sb has something. i think at best this bet might be break even. check/folding here is not weak at all. its just the fact that you can bet and get them all in with one bet that makes me want to bet.

The preflop reraise is fine, but when the flop comes down like this, c/f all the way. This ugliness hit a ton of hands and didn't help you out at all. You're probably drawing to runner-runner to win here, and with the pot this size, you're not gonna fold em all out, even with a crowbar-pot-sized bet. Crap flop, live to fight another day.

bdc:

is "hit a ton of hands" a bit of an exageration?

Not really. Hearts and low/middle wrap type hands this kind of flop.
I'll often call bets/raises preflop with hands like 7-7-8-9 looking for just this texture and type of flop. Easy to snap off guys who fall in love with their unimproved AA....

Other than the SB, seems like the implied odds, even if the BB is a payoff wizard aren't so good to call with run-down hands.

I play a lot of bad players who call this with only a fd (not even nut fd) or oesd only.

I like to post because bad players make me win money even if I play badly but more experienced players can set me straight


Soon I"ll be arguing for my plays and the learning will really begin

You don't want a lot of calls from fd and/or wraps and oesd's here. It's either a coinflip or the draw may even be favourite over your hand, depending on how connected it is.

Right, but even if I'm a 40/60 dog, the pot is laying me enough, yes?

If/when two guys call and/or raise you, are you ever 40% to win here?

Results?

If we disregard the SB, Iif 2 guys calls me I dont have to be near 40% with the pot laying me the odds it is.
I'm not at all saying my ;play was correct, but if we win 30% and put in 25% of the money, that's cool.

Results:

UTG calls, CO calls, SB folds

UTG: 9h Qh Ts 9s
CO: 3h Th Ac Qc
Button: 9c 4h 7h Td (he wins $13,80 from Main pot)

I win $59.70 side pot 1 + side pot 2.

They were all splitting hearts, thankfully.
And thankfully Button was short.

Even I don't shove this flop if others are deep.
I need to be careful when I'm deep stacked, I realize.

lots to learn

One of the problems with discussing PLO hands is that hyper LAG play can be successful, and playing like a nit can be successful. If you continue posting in/reading this forum (please do) you should notice a pattern of me being fine with loose and aggressive preflop play, and BudBundy being a little tighter, calling raises and limping more than raising. He runs at about 25/7 IIRC, and I'm normally more around 45/18ish. meservery seems to be somewhere in between, but it's easy to get a distorted picture of someone's game just from hands posted.

This hand is slightly different because of the limited stack sizes, but my normal stance is that in general, in fairly deepstacked situations preflop you either need to reraise more than just AAxx, or not reraise at all. AAxx is exceptionally difficult to play postflop when your opponents know your hand.

I have no idea where I'm going with this.

I can't believe these donks called with that garbage on a 5 6 J board.
Nobody even has the nut flush draw or really any straight draw that's not runner runner.
Wow. Just wow. Someone please stake me, instantly, so I can get in wherever Actuary is finding these uber donks...lol

no no no no no no no no don't pot that flop. You have one pair no draws , flop is 5 handed , and the most important reason SB can hurt you real good in this pot. A check/raise from him will put you both all in and you will play a 7 buyin pot with one pair no draws on a scary board.,

I haven't read the replies but check/fold is the only option here.

tell us how you really feel.

47/11 over 5,570 hands, 10.46 BB/100.

I'm trying to post my full stats... but having trouble doing it.

Funny,
during the hand, I had this exchange with the SB... based on two hands ago, seriously.

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($83.75)
CO ($19.20)
Button ($11.85)
SB ($24.75)
BB ($4.25)
UTG ($75.10)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 5, 6, A, A.
UTG calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.1, 3 folds, BB calls $0.85, UTG calls $0.85.

Flop: ($3.40) 4, 9, 6 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $3.25, Hero folds, BB folds.

Final Pot: $6.65

during the next hand...

Me: "you bluff my AA there?"
Me: "surely you c/r a set"

then...next hand we're into the hand I posted originally here...

UTG (from this post): "i let teh rookies CR"
Me: (right afte re-raising preflop to $5.10) "I see. Im a rookie.. I like the game thoug"


I wasn't using this as strong evidence, obv he could be lying, I just thought it was interesting that we were having this conversation and I was really hoping he would fold to my shove, and you mentioned it.