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timwakefield
No special read on villain, I think he's been playing pretty tight but I haven't been seated with him for too long. About 20 players left in the 55k guaranteed $10 rebuy. The one thing I know about villain is that I have not seen him open push this stack yet (I think he was short and doubled up like 15 hands ago). This is a fairly standard call?


Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t15000/t30000
(Ante: t1500)
7 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t634476
UTG+1: t145202
MP1: t304048
Hero: t341204

Button: t716008
SB: t453208
BB: t715093

Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is CO with 8 icon_suit_diamond.gif 8 icon_suit_spade.gif
2 folds, MP1 raises all-in t302548, Hero
simo_8ball
I call and then probably lose to his AJ/AQ.
irishguy
I'm calling here.

I'd rather be pushing then calling but I think given his stack size you are likely ahead of his range.
sabes99
that's pretty tough but you don't have enough chips to fold i don't think, if you want to win you gamble here
YBravo
Yeah, his range is wide enough to call here. Like you said, he's fairly short and his position is late enough.
Vandees
I'd fold that. Best case scenario, he pushed with a small pair. But realistically you're putting your tournament life on a coinflip, at worst you're calling $300K in a 4-1 hole.

You have just your ante invested. Fold it and look for a better spot, ie one where you're the one pushing first.
sholden
QUOTE (Vandees @ Sunday, July 1st, 2007, 7:24 PM) *
I'd fold that. Best case scenario, he pushed with a small pair. But realistically you're putting your tournament life on a coinflip, at worst you're calling $300K in a 4-1 hole.

You have just your ante invested. Fold it and look for a better spot, ie one where you're the one pushing first.


Eights are that nice pair that gives it 50/50 that his pair if above/below yours. Combined with the coin flips it stays 50/50. However, surely A7 A6 A5 is in his range, as is 76 suited and so on?

Which would make is a call.

in fact with 10BB any two might be his range (which we crush).
XXEddie
QUOTE (sholden @ Sunday, July 1st, 2007, 7:45 PM) *
Eights are that nice pair that gives it 50/50 that his pair if above/below yours. Combined with the coin flips it stays 50/50. However, surely A7 A6 A5 is in his range, as is 76 suited and so on?

Which would make is a call.

in fact with 10BB any two might be his range (which we crush).



no, the antes on stars arent that big compared to the blinds, at this level i think the ante is 1500 with is only 10% of the small blind

There is no need to push any two, or even weak aces/small suited connectors at this point with villians stack so I think he range is much smaller than you think.

I fold here IMO, if he shoved in later position, maybe. But this is one of those hands where I wanna be the one who shoves
GrinderMJ
I definitely call here I think.
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