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NoBBiR
7 Handed Ring Game

BB has $10 - Player that makes good reads but can't fold any TP hand even when he calls your cards. He's curious enough to call down just to see it.
UTG has $30 - Very good LAG/Loose Tight player. Plays ATC and plays them well. Makes good reads and is very solid. Plays like Sammy Farha with hand selection but plays the style really well.
UTG+1 has $13 - Smart player, odds player, usually has what hes repping.
MP has $20 - TAG player, plays pretty tight, good reader, smaller hand selection
Hero has table covered
Button has $20 - Drunk Donk, always bets just a dollar, never raises, always calls down non huge bets with ATC
SB has $70 - Decent player, changes gears, plays TAG/LAG

Sb puts in .25
BB puts in .25
UTG straddles to .50
UTG+1 double staddles at the urge of MP to $1.00
MP quickly TRIPLE STADDLES TO $2.00
At this point I decide everyones having a good time and I'm sort of bored after playing for a few hours and no action hands happening. I QUADRUPLE STRADDLE TO $4.00
Button calls
SB painstakingly folds 33 face up saying he knows that I'm going to put in a $50 brick of one dollar bills.
BB calls
UTG calls
UTG+1, thinks about it and calls
MP calls

Hero FINALLY looks down and sees Jack of clubs and Jack of Diamonds. Is this ever anything but a shove, even knowing that I could get up to 2-3 callers because everyone seems in a gambling mood? I know for sure BB will call with ATC to gamble, and then UTG will jokingly say, "I have to play a big pot with my friends and call if he has anything decent at all." I don't think MP or UTG+1 will have anything to do with this hand if I shove. Donk Button will most likely fold.

The pot now contains $24~ No one has enough to bust me and it certainly seems like I have way the best hand.
bdc30
Puuuuush. If anyone's woken up with a bigger pair on a quadruple straddle then more power to them. More than likely, they haven't, and won't give you credit for yours either.
SCS
This is an easy shove.
Merby
QUOTE (NoBBiR @ Friday, June 29th, 2007, 11:23 PM) *
UTG has $30 - Very good LAG/Loose Tight player. Plays ATC and plays them well. Makes good reads and is very solid. Plays like Sammy Farha with hand selection *but* plays the style really well.


LOL I liked this. So Sammy Farha plays his hand selection poorly?


Anyway, to the question: I've seen wild situations like this in live games. I really like just pushing allin here.

The pot is big, but better yet, since everyone played all the stradles and is in the mood to gamble, many players won't believe you're repping an actual hand here. I've often seen hands like A8 and JT come allong in the allin fest. Since the pot is big and there are a lot of limpers, you (probably) would have heard from a big hand by now (except possibly the player to your left: the first to call the straddles, although he's drank and short-stacked anyway, so I doubt he just limps here with a big hand).

Important things to note:
1) Calling is *terrible* against this many opponents. A raise is mandatory.
2) The player to act immediately after you is drunk and has called $4 out of his remaining $20. He's probably sticking the rest of it in, therefore, you have to factor the extra $20 about to enter the pot when trying to price the raise.
3) As I said before, the atmosphere is to gamble, so I think any raise will get callers. You might as well stick it all in with the probable best hand. The other stacks are just too short to raise them pre-flop (not allin) and hope to still have some fold equity for the flop. Aside from the SB who has $70, everyone else's stack is too small to worry about a raise less than allin. Oh yeah, and the SB folded anyway.

Just keep in mind: if you do the allin play, you may lose to a bad hand and suffer a bad beat, but this is definitely +EV in the long run here.


***EDIT***
Damn, why do I always make such long responses? I went from the first person to start replying to the third reply in the end.
Snamuh
Shove. You should be way ahead of everyone and will probably get called by hands you crush and hands you have large advantages over. Just don't tilt if you get called by A8-AT and he spikes his A!
sabes99
yeah this is an easy all-in
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