Money022
Tuesday, June 5th, 2007, 8:23 PM
No read on the villian. Not sure what to put him on here.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed)
Hand History Converter Tool from
FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Button ($45.20)
SB ($43.50)
BB ($46.20)
UTG ($20.70)
UTG+1 ($46.25)
Hero ($45.25)
MP2 ($48.75)
MP3 ($36.65)
CO ($57.15)
Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K

, K

.
2 folds,
Hero raises to $1.5,
3 folds, Button calls $1.50,
1 fold,
BB raises to $5, Hero calls $3.50, Button calls $3.50.
Flop: ($15.25) T

, 4

, Q
(3 players)BB checks,
Hero bets $10, Button folds,
BB raises to $20, Hero ???
Fold or push???
GabeTheKid
Tuesday, June 5th, 2007, 8:33 PM
why not raise preflop? The only arguement I see is that you don't want to define your hand. I'd like that line more if you had AA. I prefer reraising with KK because the button is obviously calling and you're doing a 3 way pot. The button likely has low PP and is getting great implied odds to fish here which is why you should have reraised preflop. As played, I think I push here. You're good more often than you're not. It's not the greatest flop for you but I still think that you can't fold here at 50NL. I push, unless of course I have a strong read. Do we have a read here?
Money022
Tuesday, June 5th, 2007, 8:38 PM
No reads really. And yes, I didn't reraise so as not to define my hand. That and I had position on the reraiser. If I didn't, then I would have repopped.
Webslinger516
Tuesday, June 5th, 2007, 9:03 PM
I'd like to reraise here with KK preflop where we likely have the best hand.
Now we're in a tough spot, because he might have 1010, QQ or AA. AQ is well within this range though. His minimum raise is kind of suspect. I think I'm pushing here though. Maybe you really disguised your KK well and he feels his AQ is good here.
mtdesmoines
Tuesday, June 5th, 2007, 9:17 PM
QUOTE (Money022 @ Tuesday, June 5th, 2007, 8:23 PM)

No read on the villian. Not sure what to put him on here.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed)
Hand History Converter Tool from
FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Button ($45.20)
SB ($43.50)
BB ($46.20)
UTG ($20.70)
UTG+1 ($46.25)
Hero ($45.25)
MP2 ($48.75)
MP3 ($36.65)
CO ($57.15)
Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K

, K

.
2 folds,
Hero raises to $1.5,
3 folds, Button calls $1.50,
1 fold,
BB raises to $5, Hero calls $3.50, Button calls $3.50.
Flop: ($15.25) T

, 4

, Q
(3 players)BB checks,
Hero bets $10, Button folds,
BB raises to $20, Hero ???
Fold or push???
Just calling the PF re-raise is a mistake. Push it with KK.
Lavitz
Wednesday, June 6th, 2007, 12:38 AM
Fold. He 3 bet and then min check raised Q10x flop. This is QQ/AA a LOT. Any other pocket pair makes no sense (besides maybe 1010) and I really dont see AK doing this unless it is maybe AKdd in which he ha a massive draw.
Also, since button is probably gonna call after we call 3 bet, I like 4 betting to try and get pot HU.
Zach6668
Wednesday, June 6th, 2007, 8:02 AM
FPS.
Acid_Knight
Wednesday, June 6th, 2007, 8:43 AM
QUOTE (Zach6668 @ Wednesday, June 6th, 2007, 9:02 AM)

FPS.
My favorite
Verdimme
Wednesday, June 6th, 2007, 8:46 AM
QUOTE (Lavitz @ Wednesday, June 6th, 2007, 12:38 AM)

Fold. He 3 bet and then min check raised Q10x flop. This is QQ/AA a LOT. Any other pocket pair makes no sense (besides maybe 1010) and I really dont see AK doing this unless it is maybe AKdd in which he ha a massive draw.
Also, since button is probably gonna call after we call 3 bet, I like 4 betting to try and get pot HU.
I agree with this.
Acid_Knight
Wednesday, June 6th, 2007, 8:51 AM
QUOTE (Lavitz @ Wednesday, June 6th, 2007, 1:38 AM)

Also, since button is probably gonna call after we call 3 bet, I like 4 betting to try and get pot HU.
Yeah, THIS is the reason to reraise preflop. You don't wanna play 3 handed if you don't have to. Get the pot heads up and you'll have easier decisions.
Money022
Wednesday, June 6th, 2007, 2:29 PM
Very good reasoning on why to repop preflop. Will do in the future.
Lavitz pretty much pins how I felt about this hand. AA and QQ are very likely to play their hand like this preflop and post. I would think Ad Kd would have check raised me for at least the pot, hoping to end it there but still has a boatload of outs. I also find it hard to believe that AQ 3-bets preflop OOP.
So that really leaves me with AA/QQ, and maaaaybe TT. Although I'm discounting TT because the guy hadn't shown many signs of aggression and I'm still seeing very few players repopping PF with anything less than JJ.
Unfortunately I decided to look him up. I pushed...he called...and won with a set of biotches. I know thinking can be very results oriented, but looking back on it now I have a hard time feeling you're ahead often enough to stack off here for it to be a +ev play.
Snamuh
Wednesday, June 6th, 2007, 8:20 PM
QUOTE (Lavitz @ Wednesday, June 6th, 2007, 4:38 AM)

Fold. He 3 bet and then min check raised Q10x flop. This is QQ/AA a LOT. Any other pocket pair makes no sense (besides maybe 1010) and I really dont see AK doing this unless it is maybe AKdd in which he ha a massive draw.
Also, since button is probably gonna call after we call 3 bet, I like 4 betting to try and get pot HU.
Definitely agree with this. What do you beat at this point? AQ/JJ is pretty much all you beat. AQ very rarely reraises preflop and Stars and JJ isn't unlikely to check/raise this board. Check/raising is very strong here. This is almost always AA or QQ. I don't think TT reraises this preflop OOP.
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