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No_Neck
Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.05/$0.1
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with T icon_suit_heart.gif K icon_suit_heart.gif
UTG folds, Hero raises, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: 3 icon_suit_spade.gif 2 icon_suit_diamond.gif T icon_suit_diamond.gif (6.4SB, 3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, Button raises, BB folds, Hero 3-bets, Button caps, Hero calls.

Turn: 9 icon_suit_club.gif (7.2BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: 4 icon_suit_spade.gif (7.2BB, 2 players)
Hero checks?
Zach6668
Looks like he free-card-capped the flop. That's advanced, lol. I also check the turn, and call down, but I expect him to have a flush draw a lot when he checks behind here.

I bet/call the river as played.
aim786
His play really looks like a FD. He probably calls with a busted Ahi FD if we bet, but folds hands like KdJd, QdJd. However, if we check, he'll probably attempt a bluff with some of those hands. Therefore, I would prefer c/c this river.
Moneyball16
Wow. I played this almost exact hand yesterday and I decided to c/c the river to give him a chance to bluff with a fd and he checked behind with QT. I still like a c/c though because he is normally gonna call our river bet with a pair hand, but when we check, we give him a chance to bluff, we dont get raised by a big hand that was just playing kooky and he will often value bet hands that will call a bet anyways.
Zach6668
Yeah, I like c/c now.
CoranMoran
Villain's turn check certainly looks like a Flush Draw.
I can't think of many other hands that would play this way.

QUOTE
Wow. I played this almost exact hand yesterday and I decided to c/c the river to give him a chance to bluff with a fd and he checked behind with QT

That's a horrible play with QT.
Checking behind on the river for a free showdown is greatly better than checking behind on the turn.


Because of our read, I think the river must be a check-call.


But I actually lead the turn.
I put Villain on the following range after he caps the flop:
AT, 33, 22, Flush Draw, 44-99.

I am willing to spend 2 more bets to find out if I am ahead.
Assumption: I do not think Villain will raise me again with a lesser hand.
Thus I bet-call the turn.
And check-fold the river unimproved.

If my assumtion is right, I pay the same amount to find out if I am behind.
And I usually make more money when I am ahead.

Examples:
- 33 & 22 (set) will raise my turn. I check-fold the river losing 2 bets. This is the same as calling down.
- AT will call me down. I lose 2 bets. This is the same as calling down myself.
- Flush draw will call my turn and fold the river. I gain 1 bet. This is better than calling down since Villain may not bluff on his own.
- 44-99. These hands will usually call me down. I gain 2 bets. This is better than calling down myself since they will usually take a free showdown.


--CM
Zach6668
Bet/calling the turn, only to c/f the river seems spewtastic when we really aren't on a draw.
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