Big Game Frank

nobody has refuted the strategy here, just given what they would do...yes, pushing is a reasonable option. but the strategy of reading the turn card before you push has some validity... if it comes a club, you are not priced-in after only min-raising... I think you can now safely fold after getting 3 callers on your flop raise if an all-in bet comes your way... if checked to (flush seeking a check raise), you can check it thru and try to fill up on river...if you bet $40 and get called in multiple places.. you will not have enough to push the turn if it comes a non-club.... although, y

<< Since you are going to be committed you might as well push it in on the flop because no matter what your money would be going in on the turn. >>no, that is ridiculous... your money is not going all-in no matter what on the turn... it depends on the flop action and the turn card.there is some logic, even in donkeys... a true donkey will put a lot of money in chasing a flush when the pot is bigger than when it is small... even with only 1 to come... they have committed a bunch of money and they want to hit that flush, god damn it.... and then complain that they are not hitt

now that I think about it more,there is one key assumption here in everyones thinking:Just HOW big are the donkeys at the table?If guys are often calling huge all-in overbets into small existing pots, then moving in right there makes a lot of sense....but if: guys are more willing to donk off their chips only after putting money in on flop -- than the OP's strategy has more merit.... especially so since it is better to get all your money in with 1 to come than 2 to come...There are 3 key advantages in waiting for the turn to push:1) You make a bigger amt when turn comes no flush card 2) You

I disagree.I raise preflop to thin the field with 9's so that when I am in a pot where I have a set and 2 cards to a flush, I don't have to be as concerned about people playing stuff like 56s. If he raised, he likely gets called by one or two people with an ace, thats who you want to pay you off here. At 1/2 NL, people rarely fold aces, your going to get paid off huge if raise instead of risking the loss by letting everyone and their 3rd cousin see a cheap flop.ok, that is reasonable thinking, what do you raise to pre-flop? what if you get re-raised? the beauty of limping is it is so easy

Hi all,Interesting hand....The issue with this hand is you want to build a pot while not allowing flush draws to draw profitably... You have flopped a big hand and any non-flush draw is drawing very thin.... You WANT the non-flush draws to CALL... by min-raising, you are enticing anyone with A9 or A7 or 777 to make a big raise.... Then you can move all-in.... This is the positive when you flop a big hand like this....Going all-in on the flop is playing scared... If a flush card comes, it will be staring you in the face and you have position... You can get away from i t if you want....