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Ok, this might be a donkish approach, but the OP said he has about 80 left after the preflop betting and the pot is 49. So OP doesnt even have 2 pots left and flops TPTK. Should I ever try to find a way to lay down my hand in that situation?I understand that a check might get more value than leading out (although sometimes I like to lead something smallish into aggro opponents in this situation, who will be always happy to "punish" silly donk-bettors), but do we ever lay AK down in that spot unless we have a great read and the Villain is super-tight (which he wasn't according to the OP) ?

This was a hand in a small poker club in town i played this night. We were playing in Hungarian Forints so I will just stick with big blinds for the purpose of explaining the situation.We were 4 handed around 5'o clock in the morning. I was under the gun. On the button we had a really tricky, intelligent player, with good reading abilites, I really just tried not to mess with him an awful lot. SB (Villain) was a loosy-goosy guy (at least pf he definitely called way too light even for a 4-handed live game), who was pretty easy to read post-flop. Usually fired his 1 pair kind of hands on the flo

I know I am a passive donk, but is it even a good idea to raise this flop into a rock? I know we probably have the best hand, but after limp-calling/donking the flop KQs is by far the most likely hand in a straightforward rock's range, and I have doubts about a flop raise being the best way to get value out of it. The 3bet is scary because he might put you on AK after you min-raise and he is still not looking too concerned.I'd call it and fold to any serious turn bet if the miracle A wont show up. (Because our only hope is really that he is getting aggro with TP and if so he will check most tu

You don't need to win 50% of the time to justify calling a pot sized bet you know

I'd fold preflop. It is not a good hand to be played OOP, because it will get you in nasty spots like this one.Flop and Turn look fine, on the river I dont really see anything that we can beat (maybe a very weird AK but that would usually either check the flop or bet it harder) but I am a station and could never lay it down to a small bet like that.

I dont really like c/c on the flop. Leading out avoids giving a free card to quite a few possible straight draws and gets value out of a bunch of weaker hands.His turn bet is scary. If Villain is not bluffing than the weakest hand I can imagine him having is KQ and I think most people in 0.25 bet lighter with KQ on that board (unless if he has KQc but that is impossible because you have the Qc). If we assume that QT is the only 2 pair he can have than he has 6 2 pairs and 7 sets in his range, and 8 possible KQ. There is some very distant possibility of AA-KK and also a distant possibility of a

Great point However you dont know that when you decide how much you will bet on that flop. Obviously after 3 betting preflop I am not ever worried if I think only sets can beat me. (well actually the Villain had a set but that is like so completely irrelevant) Actually if anybody has me beat it is really hard not to go broke in that hand. (since neither of the Villains are particulary tight players)The question is really not how I could have miracolously got away from my hand (which I was not going to), but how to play it in a way that it extracts some value from weaker hands. Shoving the flo

Makes sense, but we are never getting called by a weaker hand. (Ok at Bodog some people who wonder over from the horse-betting department will call me happily with TT here, but i seriously doubt these two would have). UTG could have AA or KK, UTG+1 is unlikely to have them. I dont know if UTG's range can be wide enough for my shove to be profitable.I will go see what some calculator thingy has to say about this.

Okay, it is not a very interesting hand, I know. But it is a very typical situation I bump into when playing big pockets OOP and I never can figure out the best way to play it.It was a 5-handed game at Bodog (6-max table /w 1 sitout). UTG is 25/19/3 over 150 hands, he has $136Villain is UTG+1, he is 27/21/2.2 over 52 and playing with $133.25. Unfortunately I didnt really have a read on him.I was in the small blind with $96.5. I think I had a slightly (but certainly not very) loose image, although I have been generating the action from position mostly, and being rather nitty in the blinds. I do

Uh, I am so sorry. I really only saw "short handed". Please forgive me and move this one to No Limit if possible.

This was a 0.25/0.5 6 handed game at Mansion. Villain seemed LAG but I had little read on him. He was 50/22.5/4 over 40 hands. In the last two rounds we played a few pots when I played back at him from position making him lay down his hand once, and winning a showdown. I 3 bet his preflop bet only once during this session before this hand. I had the impression that he is playing too loose to be profitable at that blind level, however he didnt seem completely stupid.Here is the hand:Villain is UTG with $48.80 in chipsHero is UTG+1 with $61.20 in chipsHero is dealt Pre-FlopVillain bets $2, Hero

I really wonder what you were hoping for when you called 10 BB preflop if not exactly a situation like that. It is kinda funny anyways that there was an early bet an early reraise and a call PF and ppl show up with 22 89 and 77.I mean it is a $160 tourney after all, not play money.Which site is that btw? Think I need an account there.

Villain shows for a missed flush draw and I double up.I'd like to note that I didnt post this hand to show what a genius I am. On the contrary I am positive that I have had to make some serious mistakes to put my entire stack in (even if it was only 73 blinds or so) with a hand like that on a board like that. The reason for posting was that I really had a hard time figuring how to play it differently other than folding preflop (which is certainly a valid option)Villain is a donk btw, his call on the turn is stUpid to say the least.

yeah, I always play full stack. I lost the hand before this one, and just didnt reload in time (didnt expect to lose it kinda' so didnt press reload in the middle of the hand). thanks for the advice anyways.I agree that the turn bet is too big. I really totally forgot about any kind of pot control in this hand.I am not sure about folding preflop. SB is a tight player calling a bet, he might have a hand that will really pay me off if i hit with my suited connector, and i was kind of thinking Villain was a donk, so was not that much worried about him having position on me. Maybe it is too much o

Bodog 0.5/1 NLHE 6 HandedVillain in UTG+1 $82.75SB $101.25Hero in BB $73.75I was playing LAG on a fairly tight table, everybody except for Villain player was fairly tight. The Villain had only played 15 hands or so, seemed kinda' loose postflop, overplayed top pair twice. Dealt to Hero: Pre-Flop:UTG folds, Villain raises to $3.50, 2 folds, SB calls, Hero callsFlop ($10.50): :D (3 players)SB checks, Hero bets $10.5, Villain calls, SB foldsTurn ($31.50) : (2 players)Hero bets $29, Villain callsRiver ($89.50) : (2 players)Hero checks, Villain goes all in for $39.75, Hero calls