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Fold preflop, your dominated too many times for this to be +EV

I think we have to bet pot here on the flop...the kind of hands that call you preflop are bound to have a draw here and the bet of 5 prices them in to draw on you. A pot size bet should only get a call from someone who paired up there K, leaving us way the favorite. After the flop I would check down, that q could of got someone a better 2 pair.

Consider the hands your opponents can have here to put their entire stacks at risk. One of them might already have the straight. The other is either drawing for the straight or has at least 2 pair(assuming these players are decent which you almost always have to do when you have no read on players). Assuming those things; your no better then 30% to win on the flop and 19% to win on the turn. I think you have to fold here, especially considering that one of your outs could just be to split the pot. I think you have to assume your drawing to a club here to win the pot and thats about it. E

Yeah but him being in the bb he could have easily filled up with either the turn or river card and made the weak bet at the end to try and get you to raise him. I don't think its the worst play in the world to flat call him there, you might not get much more from him considering he had the weak kicker anyway.

Yeah but him being in the bb he could have easily filled up with either the turn or river card and made the weak bet at the end to try and get you to raise him. I don't think its the worst play in the world to flat call him there, you might not get much more from him considering he had the weak kicker anyway.

I've gotta push on the turn as well. I understand your reasoning for the play you made but i don't want a hand as vulnerable as yours going up against 2 drawing players. If it does I want them to pay as much as you can get them to pay for doing it. You've got straight and flush draws out there on the turn and if they each have one of those the odds are a lot better for one of them to hit on the river. Like I said I want them paying the maximum amount you can make them pay for that draw...especially if your just going to put it all in no matter what card comes on the river anyway. I don't

My understanding of pot odds is that once its in the pot you don't count it as your own money anymore...in other words your getting 7 to 1 for the river, and a definite call, if not raise.

You seem to have a strong read on the guy and its screaming at you that he hit his higher set. That, and the fact that your even in cash with this guy makes me think its an easy lay down. But I go on feel a lot. The numbers might not say fold but I would trust my instincts. I'm always surprised at how many times they're right, of course after i've ignored them and lost more money!Oh and by the way WAR EAGLE cobalt

Whats your table image right now? Does the villian think he can push you off a hand here? You say he's a solid player, well I can see a solid player making this move with something like k10 if he thinks he can push you off a k with a better kicker, hell you laid down KQ so he was right. I think you have to call here. If he has 77 then you have to give him credit for it and move on...you still have plenty of chips in front of you. If he's such a tight aggressive player though i would think he would raise in the c.o. with 77 to get hands like Q10 or K10 suited in the blinds out. Like I sai

This is the second time in the last few days its been out for me but as long as this was scheduled I don't have any problems with it.