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Member Since 20 Dec 2004
Offline Last Active Jan 23 2013 08:24 PM
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In Topic: Bluff Magazine Article On Erick Lindgren

13 January 2013 - 04:17 PM

View Postgadjet, on 13 January 2013 - 02:05 PM, said:

I'm not seeing much about EL's monthly distribution from FTP which I've read to have been around $250k per month... I can't relate to the scale of money obviously, but I think that black friday's cutoff of a $250k guaranteed chunk plays a massive factor in EL's fall from grace, with the FTP monthly money EL could've quite easily continued chipping away at debts and his cost of living, and assuming he had backers he could approach to continue playing I just don't see him being in that terrible of a spot respecting the culture and nature of the games/community he's playing in. It's probably a good thing for EL long term that the cutoff forced his hand to recognize deeper issues.

I agree with the comments about how casually loans of this amount are treated between friends and even in my local casino guys are regularly passing a couple thousand back and forth each night.

All that said, EL has clearly accepted that he has a gambling problem and making steps to repair/improve his life and payback so I wish him the best. I have no problem with a gambling addict making future plans to get things under control and moving to Vegas to play poker. If the proper accountability and personal systems are in place I believe in people's ability to change, and I appreciate when it's for the better.

That was actually his argument in the article - with his distributions he was paring down his debt and with the current pre black friday value of his FTP shares he was fine - - what happened after that he clearly needs to be held responsible for

Most gambling addicts tho aren't going to say i owe two mil - i need to stop gambling - they will say I'll keep gambling til i'm cut off or above water

When I was at the 2007 WSOP i asked the valet there who the best tipper was and he said Lindgren tipped 100 in and out every day - I understand that a lot of pros argued that they'd rather lend money to a poker player than a normal person because their word is bond, but when you are talking that kind of money it seems foolish to just assume they are good for it because they are on tv a lot

I just wonder how much more of all the stuff ESPN fed us about how great these poker pros were was nonsense

Amarillo Slim was a great character but he obviously wasn't above cheating - Doyle was his partner what does that say about Doyle and all the rest?

In Topic: Bluff Magazine Article On Erick Lindgren

12 January 2013 - 08:29 PM

actually if you're house is underwater - you just give it back to the bank - that's how collateral works

not that EL had any kind of collateral deal with his FTP shares but if people gave him credit because - hey he has 3% of full tilt - they made a bad decision too

doesn't clear EL just saying

still sounds like Bob was trying to shear EL but wound up sort of skinning him instead - as amarillo slim would say

In Topic: Bluff Magazine Article On Erick Lindgren

08 January 2013 - 01:26 AM

He was down 10 mill all that time he was on TV etc?

It actually sounds like he was sort of solvent before Black Friday - compared to whenever

So is Bob at all a leech for sucking in a degenerate sports gambler and taking the other side - if you are a bookie and you have someone losing tons of money and you never check whether they are good for it and keep taking their action at what point does it become partly your fault?

If I lose ten mil and can't pay and you let me lose 100 mil - aren't you at some point a moron?

If you are giving me credit based on my ownership of a company and that company goes under - your collareral isn't worth anything any more and aren;t you partly to blame at least a little for misvaluing the collateral?

In Topic: Awesomest Website Ever!

14 December 2012 - 07:31 PM

Tube Plus is down - if this is permanent i may end it all

In Topic: Daniel Video Rant - Nov 20 2012 - Integrity

20 November 2012 - 11:43 PM

heartfelt - understand both sides but - good job