Crazy Hand AA v. KK v. QQ v. JJ

[ElGuapo 0]

Just saw this hand with two tables left in 200K PartyPoker tournament.Talk about a PartyPoker special.***** Hand History for Game 1349152364 *****NL Hold'em Trny:8156298 Level:17 Blinds (3000/6000) - Sunday, December 26, 03:57:12 EDT 2004Table $200K Guaranteed Saturday(171389) Table #1 (Real Money)Seat 5 is the buttonTotal number of players : 10 Seat 1: JERE2000 ( $291508 )Seat 2: scrableking ( $40023 )Seat 3: AawwNutz ( $52087 )Seat 4: HENDOGPIXS ( $33335 )Seat 5: turntablist ( $187934 )Seat 6: veryugly ( $95750 )Seat 7: ElValo ( $33430 )Seat 8: Hibbs08 ( $49466 )Seat 9: g4295 ( $61044 )Seat 10: ComeOnPhish ( $91942 )Trny:8156298 Level:17Blinds (3000/6000)** Dealing down cards **Hibbs08 is all-In [49466]g4295 is all-In [61044]ComeOnPhish folds.JERE2000 folds.scrableking folds.AawwNutz folds.HENDOGPIXS folds.turntablist folds.veryugly calls [58044].ElValo is all-In [27430]** Dealing Flop ** [ 2s, 8h, 9d ]** Dealing Turn ** [ 9s ]** Dealing River ** [ Ts ]Hibbs08 shows [ Kd, Kc ] two pairs, kings and nines.g4295 shows [ Js, Jh ] two pairs, jacks and nines.veryugly shows [ As, Ah ] two pairs, aces and nines.ElValo shows [ Qh, Qc ] two pairs, queens and nines.Player ElValo finished in 19 place and received $1625.6Player Hibbs08 finished in 18 place and received $1625.6Player g4295 finished in 17 place and received $1625.6veryugly wins 23156 chips from side pot #2 with two pairs, aces and nines.veryugly wins 48108 chips from side pot #1 with two pairs, aces and nines.veryugly wins 133720 chips from the main pot with two pairs, aces and nines.

[keith crime 8]

so the question who after the aces has the second best hand - my guess would be the jacks except they have the same suits as the aces of course i was totally wrongCalculation results from Poker Calculator 1.1.4.1Texas Hold'em, 1086008 combinations tested.Hand | AhAs | KdKc | JhJs | QhQc |------+--------------+--------------+--------------+--------------+Win | 588462 | 204982 | 134946 | 153197 |Draw | 4421 | 4421 | 4421 | 4421 |Lose | 493125 | 876605 | 946641 | 928390 |------+--------------+--------------+--------------+--------------+Win% | 54.29% | 18.98% | 12.53% | 14.21% |------+--------------+--------------+--------------+--------------+AhAs: Pair win: 108480 draw: 0 lose: 258492 Two Pair win: 220800 draw: 0 lose: 205098 Three of a Kind win: 130216 draw: 0 lose: 11018 Straight win: 7760 draw: 4382 lose: 2198 Flush win: 15710 draw: 0 lose: 4185 Full House win: 93597 draw: 0 lose: 12129 Quads win: 11821 draw: 18 lose: 1 Straight Flush win: 78 draw: 21 lose: 4 KdKc: Pair win: 0 draw: 0 lose: 364858 Two Pair win: 0 draw: 0 lose: 424570 Three of a Kind win: 100568 draw: 0 lose: 40682 Straight win: 2608 draw: 4382 lose: 2076 Flush win: 22470 draw: 0 lose: 6125 Full House win: 67818 draw: 0 lose: 37908 Quads win: 11439 draw: 18 lose: 383 Straight Flush win: 79 draw: 21 lose: 3 JhJs: Pair win: 0 draw: 0 lose: 362803 Two Pair win: 0 draw: 0 lose: 425020 Three of a Kind win: 57120 draw: 0 lose: 83735 Straight win: 13040 draw: 4382 lose: 2344 Flush win: 0 draw: 0 lose: 19817 Full House win: 53271 draw: 0 lose: 52455 Quads win: 11357 draw: 18 lose: 465 Straight Flush win: 158 draw: 21 lose: 2 QhQc: Pair win: 0 draw: 0 lose: 367704 Two Pair win: 0 draw: 0 lose: 426524 Three of a Kind win: 75600 draw: 0 lose: 65759 Straight win: 5840 draw: 4382 lose: 2635 Flush win: 0 draw: 0 lose: 19934 Full House win: 60321 draw: 0 lose: 45405 Quads win: 11396 draw: 18 lose: 426 Straight Flush win: 40 draw: 21 lose: 3 how about all the same suit?Calculation results from Poker Calculator 1.1.4.1Texas Hold'em, 1086008 combinations tested.Hand | AsAc | KsKc | QsQc | JsJc |------+--------------+--------------+--------------+--------------+Win | 595374 | 187438 | 157584 | 138484 |Draw | 7128 | 7128 | 7128 | 7128 |Lose | 483506 | 891442 | 921296 | 940396 |------+--------------+--------------+--------------+--------------+Win% | 54.99% | 17.42% | 14.67% | 12.92% |------+--------------+--------------+--------------+--------------+AsAc: Pair win: 111870 draw: 0 lose: 260486 Two Pair win: 223776 draw: 0 lose: 204930 Three of a Kind win: 137324 draw: 0 lose: 4038 Straight win: 7998 draw: 4528 lose: 1846 Flush win: 8906 draw: 2554 lose: 78 Full House win: 93600 draw: 0 lose: 12126 Quads win: 11822 draw: 18 lose: 0 Straight Flush win: 78 draw: 28 lose: 2 KsKc: Pair win: 0 draw: 0 lose: 375804 Two Pair win: 0 draw: 0 lose: 429962 Three of a Kind win: 105388 draw: 0 lose: 36354 Straight win: 2786 draw: 4528 lose: 1974 Flush win: 0 draw: 2554 lose: 9062 Full House win: 67824 draw: 0 lose: 37902 Quads win: 11440 draw: 18 lose: 382 Straight Flush win: 0 draw: 28 lose: 2 QsQc: Pair win: 0 draw: 0 lose: 373020 Two Pair win: 0 draw: 0 lose: 429322 Three of a Kind win: 79772 draw: 0 lose: 61716 Straight win: 6076 draw: 4528 lose: 2362 Flush win: 0 draw: 2554 lose: 9062 Full House win: 60336 draw: 0 lose: 45390 Quads win: 11400 draw: 18 lose: 422 Straight Flush win: 0 draw: 28 lose: 2 JsJc: Pair win: 0 draw: 0 lose: 368048 Two Pair win: 0 draw: 0 lose: 427810 Three of a Kind win: 60214 draw: 0 lose: 80768 Straight win: 13550 draw: 4528 lose: 1878 Flush win: 0 draw: 2554 lose: 8984 Full House win: 53280 draw: 0 lose: 52446 Quads win: 11360 draw: 18 lose: 462 Straight Flush win: 80 draw: 28 lose: 0

[Wlleiotl 0]

of course the KK has the second best hand for all the times the board has a K and a Q/Jthe guy with QQ probably could have gotten away from his hand

[l337O 0]

I once saw a hand at partyA:diamond: A:spade:K K:spade:Q:diamond: Q:heart:T:club: J All in on the board of9:club: Q:club: 3:heart: Turn brings K and the straight flush takes the pot. I did have a screenshot, but seem to find it at the moment.- Mark

[dna4ever 2]

Here is one I was able to screencap in a tourny I did this weekend

[srharris22 0]

THAT HAND IS CRAZY, JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT I LOST A HAND IN LIMIT HOLDEM MMT LAST NIGHT WITH KK VS KK B/C OTHER GUY HITS DIAMOND FLUSH ON RIVER. SO HAPPY ABOUT THAT, IT WAS FOR A LOT OF CHIPS TOO, BUT CAN'T BE TOO MAD, CAME IN SECOND OUT OF 300.

[dna4ever 2]

Stupid Freeservers and not allowing external linking. Here is the text version of what the image showed:Q Q (all-in) vs K K (all-in) vs A 9 (all-in) vs K Q (all-in) vs J A Board flops 8 J 8 Turns 4 5th Street 7 KK holds up

[Karl Tripple 0]

I was involved in this same hand in a live action no limit game. I had the Aces and all the other big pairs were in play. KKs were first to bet I raised and the JJs called QQs folded and KKs called. Flop was Q rag rag KKs checked and I moved all in. JJs folded and after a long debate with himself KKs called. I won the pot which was huge but not without alot of tension

[dna4ever 2]

QQs folded

That guy was probably pretty happy. lol

[pizzu0ff 0]

while I was playing $50 NL cash game. I was in BigBlind with JJ, before I got time to think about what should I do (raise big, no riase to set trap if flopping set, or raise little), then bang bang bang, 3 guys went all-in. Then I knew at least one of them got QQ or KK and had me beat (may be some got AK or so but not worth the gamble). When they showed, they got AA, KK, and QQ, and the lucky QQ guy turned his set and won a huge pot. I was glad I was in big blind to fold my hand easily.

[workz 0]

i've played at least 1500 single/multi table tournaments on party poker and have won my fair share...but something i've noticed and it was just a coincidence is that i really, truly believe that party poker rigs the hands in tournaments to cause more action....its amazing how many ridiculous hands i've seen on party poker that cause both players to put in all their chips....not only that but it seems everytime a guy with more chips puts a guy with less chips all in, even though he might havea worse hand, lower pocket pair, etc...they usually end up hitting a miracle card and knocking that player out of the tournament...maybe its just me, but i've talked to tons of other players who agree and feel like partypoker truly does set hands up so that action goes faster, tournaments end faster, and they can start a new one up faster, to earn more money faster =T thats why i quit pp finally...

[dna4ever 2]

i've played at least 1500 single/multi table tournaments on party poker and have won my fair share...but something i've noticed and it was just a coincidence is that i really, truly believe that party poker rigs the hands in tournaments to cause more action....its amazing how many ridiculous hands i've seen on party poker that cause both players to put in all their chips....not only that but it seems everytime a guy with more chips puts a guy with less chips all in, even though he might havea worse hand, lower pocket pair, etc...they usually end up hitting a miracle card and knocking that player out of the tournament...maybe its just me, but i've talked to tons of other players who agree and feel like partypoker truly does set hands up so that action goes faster, tournaments end faster, and they can start a new one up faster, to earn more money faster =T thats why i quit pp finally...

Pure rubbish. Ive seen these things in live games, partypoker, stars, ultimatebet, fulltilt, u name it. The cards dont hate you and the sites get the same rake whether they have action or not in a tourny so there is no interest to manipulate the random generator.

[bdluss 0]

So then here is a question for you since you believed the sites rig it so big hands run into each other. You have kings, its 10 handed, what are the odds someone at the table has aces? 1 in 23, yup thats right a little over 4% of the time there is a higher pocket pair out there. For Queens it is about 1 in 15, and I belive jacks are 1 in 8 (not quite sure on the jacks I would have to go look up the #'s again). So its not that sites rig anything, its the nature of HOLDEM.

[hoof31 0]

i've played at least 1500 single/multi table tournaments on party poker and have won my fair share...but something i've noticed and it was just a coincidence is that i really, truly believe that party poker rigs the hands in tournaments to cause more action....its amazing how many ridiculous hands i've seen on party poker that cause both players to put in all their chips....not only that but it seems everytime a guy with more chips puts a guy with less chips all in, even though he might havea worse hand, lower pocket pair, etc...they usually end up hitting a miracle card and knocking that player out of the tournament...maybe its just me, but i've talked to tons of other players who agree and feel like partypoker truly does set hands up so that action goes faster, tournaments end faster, and they can start a new one up faster, to earn more money faster =T thats why i quit pp finally...

What on earth would be their motivation, they collect their money before the tourney even starts. Try looking at the players calling allin, when they should not.

[theben 0]

i've played at least 1500 single/multi table tournaments on party poker and have won my fair share...but something i've noticed and it was just a coincidence is that i really, truly believe that party poker rigs the hands in tournaments to cause more action....its amazing how many ridiculous hands i've seen on party poker that cause both players to put in all their chips....not only that but it seems everytime a guy with more chips puts a guy with less chips all in, even though he might havea worse hand, lower pocket pair, etc...they usually end up hitting a miracle card and knocking that player out of the tournament...maybe its just me, but i've talked to tons of other players who agree and feel like partypoker truly does set hands up so that action goes faster, tournaments end faster, and they can start a new one up faster, to earn more money faster =T thats why i quit pp finally...

sorry man thats just not true. ive seen whacky things happen everywhere. playing in a live limit HE game at a casino, i held KK and was up against most of the quality big and mid pairs-- my KK and AA, JJ, and also TT.playing in another live game, my friend flopped the nut full house. on 5th street, he lost to a gut shot rivered straight flushplaying at UB a few days ago, i ran 2 good hands into AA within 1 round. in about 7 hands time, my AK ran into AA (in which case i folded) and my KK ran into AA (which busted me)ive had so many more 'wierd' things happen i cant recall them all. some are from other sites and some from live play. but those were ones i recalled quickly just to point out funny things happen everywhere.

[Sweet 0]

noob

[herly33 1]

i've played at least 1500 single/multi table tournaments on party poker and have won my fair share...but something i've noticed and it was just a coincidence is that i really, truly believe that party poker rigs the hands in tournaments to cause more action....its amazing how many ridiculous hands i've seen on party poker that cause both players to put in all their chips....not only that but it seems everytime a guy with more chips puts a guy with less chips all in, even though he might havea worse hand, lower pocket pair, etc...they usually end up hitting a miracle card and knocking that player out of the tournament...maybe its just me, but i've talked to tons of other players who agree and feel like partypoker truly does set hands up so that action goes faster, tournaments end faster, and they can start a new one up faster, to earn more money faster =T thats why i quit pp finally...

Im pretty sure Party Poker isnt the only site to do this, and if you think its bs, your either stupid or ignorant, take your pick

[king_tanner 84]

Im pretty sure Party Poker isnt the only site to do this, and if you think its bs, your either stupid or ignorant, take your pick

coming from the guy who is responding to a post from 5 years ago.

[Ship_itt 0]

Im pretty sure Party Poker isnt the only site to do this, and if you think its bs, your either stupid or ignorant, take your pick

lol

[babylondonks 5]

Im pretty sure Party Poker isnt the only site to do this, and if you think its bs, your either stupid or ignorant, take your pick

Where's jeepster with his YOUR RETARDED avatar?

[grocery_mony 9]

Think everyone has seen hands like this by now. Seen AA vs KK vs KK vs QQ live before. Couldnt believe Queens didnt muck with all the action on the hand.

[MaxStPolish 4]

I miss party poker.Man, before I knew what a chris moneymaker was and before the US Gov't decided to be tards about poker rather than get involved. And before I was the amazing player that I am today. Like.....what's a range? good. Like sending an email to support because I'm trying this new game called omaha, and there's a clear error in their system because it awarded the pot to someone else when I held the nut boat with AK96 on a 66552 board. Thoooooooooooose were the days. It's so much more trying I think to eek out barely being a profitable player dealing with beats, rather then been a semi-lucky break even player just whimsically playing "poker".