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[Petoria]

Ultimate Bet 0.50/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is MP3 with [Js], [Ac]. 2 folds, SB completes, BB checks.Flop: (5 SB) [Kc], [2s], [As] (5 players)SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets, SB folds, BB folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls.Turn: (4.50 BB) [Qh] (2 players)MP2 checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls.River: (6.50 BB) [9c] (2 players)MP2 checks, Hero checks.Final Pot: 6.50 BBShould I be betting that river? When I've got position, I find myself checking the river with hands like this quite often. Also, what effect does the number of limpers have on your raising standards preflop? Even if I'm in the lead with a lot of limper, I've only a plurality to win and rarely a definitive favorite. Thus should less hands be raised, and be more inclined to call?

[Vade]

Raise AJo here to build a nice potThere are arguments for raising it all the time, but certainly in late middle with limpersEvery preflop raise has to have a purpose, and here it's not to eliminate people (except the blinds), it's to build the potOh, and Bet.The.River.

[custom36]

Without a doubt you bet the river.

[Petoria]

My problem is that I think I've become a bit gun shy of people check/calling down, and then when they hit their other card on the river, they think it's a good idea to go for a check/raise. I guess it doesn't happen often enough for me to stop betting the river. So which hands would you raise with the intention of building a pot when there are limpers. Which hands should no longer be raised now that there are many limpers, maybe because of negative implied odds. Meaning that you're more likely to pay someone off if they hit big.Also, here's a hand that hit me just a moment: Does anyone not cap the river?Ultimate Bet 0.50/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is MP2 with [Ks], [Kc]. 2 folds, BB calls.Flop: (4.50 SB) [Jh], [4s], [3h] (3 players)BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.Turn: (3.25 BB) [Ac] (3 players)BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.River: (5.25 BB) [Kd] (3 players)BB checks, Hero bets, Hero calls.Final Pot: 13.25 BB

[Swift_Psycho]

I find myself slightly befuddled. Why is it that you didn't bet the river when a blank hits?

[Swift_Psycho]

Petoria said:

My problem is that I think I've become a bit gun shy of people check/calling down, and then when they hit their other card on the river, they think it's a good idea to go for a check/raise. I guess it doesn't happen often enough for me to stop betting the river. So which hands would you raise with the intention of building a pot when there are limpers. Which hands should no longer be raised now that there are many limpers, maybe because of negative implied odds. Meaning that you're more likely to pay someone off if they hit big.Also, here's a hand that hit me just a moment: Does anyone not cap the river?Ultimate Bet 0.50/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is MP2 with [Ks], [Kc]. 2 folds, BB calls.Flop: (4.50 SB) [Jh], [4s], [3h] (3 players)BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.Turn: (3.25 BB) [Ac] (3 players)BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.River: (5.25 BB) [Kd] (3 players)BB checks, Hero bets, Hero calls.Final Pot: 13.25 BB

Well, it isn't really your choice as to whether or not to cap the river. I do think a 3-bet here is fine though, then of course you call the cap.

[Vade]

the only three hands you trail to is q-10, 2-5, and AAI think you have to three bet itThe cap worries me a tiny bit, when I'm calling I'm thinking it's not impossible that Q-10 of hearts just caught a miracle, but i think not three betting is weak with 2nd setedit: I think the opponent more likely has K-J, maybe even K-4 or Krablar, it was the BB after all

[KDawgCometh]

Petoria said:

Ultimate Bet 0.50/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is MP3 with [Js], [Ac]. 2 folds, SB completes, BB checks.Flop: (5 SB) [Kc], [2s], [As] (5 players)SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets, SB folds, BB folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls.Turn: (4.50 BB) [Qh] (2 players)MP2 checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls.River: (6.50 BB) [9c] (2 players)MP2 checks, Hero checks.Final Pot: 6.50 BBShould I be betting that river? When I've got position, I find myself checking the river with hands like this quite often. Also, what effect does the number of limpers have on your raising standards preflop? Even if I'm in the lead with a lot of limper, I've only a plurality to win and rarely a definitive favorite. Thus should less hands be raised, and be more inclined to call?

you have to raise it PF and you MUSTVALUE BET the river

[Absolute]

Raise PFbet the river

[Petoria]

In the first hand, you guys were right about me having to value bet the river. I had him beat the whole way.In the 2nd hand, the guy had 25 and I lost. I kinda lost it after that one, and I tilted away another 5 BB.

[DCWildcat]

Absolute said:

Raise PFbet the river

Amen.