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[pokargrl]

Typical 50$ NL at pacific. Very, very passive, loose table. Hero is dealt 4 3 on button with 50$ in stack. 5 limp to hero, hero raises 3xBB to $1.50. 5 callers. Flop 4 4 Q -- Great flop, but I have to protect. 2 checks, MP1 bets 2$, 1 fold, CO calls, Hero raises to 12$, MP1 calls, CO calls. Turn 6d -- Mp1 checks, CO checks, hero?

[Vade]

Bet 2/3 the pot. And fold to a raise, you can't surrender every time a third flush card hits. Unfortunately, you might get check-raised, but if it's a passive table maybe notPassive table means any two suited cards will doPlease please Don't get in the habit of raising with little suited connectors...it's not a good habit to develop

[Scott3705]

I would need to know whether or not you thought either of these two guys were bad enough to chase flush draws when the board is paired on the flop to make a definite answer.However, I would raise 2/3 the pot and see what happens from there. If you get raised... you can probably give it up. If you get a call and the river doens't bring a diamond or improve you. Check if it's checked to you, and probably fold to a big bet.

[Swift_Psycho]

I really dislike the pre-flop raise. On the turn, I like a bet of about 2/3 the pot, as the others suggested. If you get raised, I'd be careful. Not only could you be up against a flush, you may be up against a stronger 4, which would be devastating for your hand. I probably fold to a raise.

[Absolute]

theres nothing wrong with raising this PF to mix things up a little bit. on a loose passive table i like to raise with different kinds of hands to stay unpredictable. but this IS a bad raise anywhere off the button and on any sort of tight table.i think you played the flop extremely well. its rare to see people make the correct bets against draws, good job. no one is getting priced in on a flush draw here.on the turn you absolutely have to bet at least half the pot. only a poor player is check-raising you here with a pair on the board considering the way you played the flop.i would bet around 25 right here

[pokargrl]

That's why I raised preflop-- I would have happily called a 3xBB preflop raise, and I'd knew I'd get a ton of callers if I made it myself. I don't do it often, but when I do, it generally works well. Unfortunately, I checked here, fairly sure that one of the 2 was on a flush draw, and gave the guy with A Q a free card. River was 6 , and I called his 3$ bet into a 40$ pot to make him show.

[DCWildcat]

I like the idea of the others on the turn bet.I think few people care much about a paired board with a flopped flush draw. That's not saying they shouldn't, it's just one of those little Sklanskyisms that people tend to ignore (though I think he overdoes it).