Actuary 3 Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)Preflop: ChkRaizin_Fool is SB with , . 1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 3 folds, MP3 calls, 1 fold, Button raises, ChkRaizin_Fool calls, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.Flop: (9 SB) , , (4 players)ChkRaizin_Fool bets, UTG+1 calls, MP3 folds, Button raises, ChkRaizin_Fool 3-bets, UTG+1 folds, Button caps, ChkRaizin_Fool calls.Turn: (9 BB) (2 players)ChkRaizin_Fool checks, Button bets, ChkRaizin_Fool raises, Button 3-bets, ChkRaizin_Fool calls.River: (15 BB) (2 players)ChkRaizin_Fool bets...Final Pot: 17 BBVillain has semi-maniac stats; but less than 20 handseditted out my thoughts here..please opine. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 Cap the turn, lead the river. At that point you can consider just calling if he raises, imo.Especially if he's semi-maniacal. Link to post Share on other sites
antistuff 0 Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 cap that turn yo. Link to post Share on other sites
Dogpatch 2 Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 Cap this turn. This really looks like a flush on his part. c/r river? Either way, I think I'm getting all I can in at the end here. Edit: Hmmm, just looked again... he capped the flop. Even for AKs that could be a little agg. b/c river? Link to post Share on other sites
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Zach6668 513 Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 Hmmm... I didn't notice that the turn completed the flush draw, I may slow down a bit. Link to post Share on other sites
RISEorFall 0 Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 Cap this turn. This really looks like a flush on his part.ummmmwhy are we capping the turn if we think he has a flush? Link to post Share on other sites
Moneyball16 0 Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 ummmmwhy are we capping the turn if we think he has a flush?Pretty easy to see that the Q was coming. Link to post Share on other sites
Dogpatch 2 Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 ummmmwhy are we capping the turn if we think he has a flush?LOL Cause I'm a donk, obv? I mean... as long as I know, right?Pretty easy to see that the Q was coming.Yea, what he said.... I was playing it by feel. Math is for nerds. (un-needed sw) Link to post Share on other sites
CoranMoran 0 Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 His 3-bet concerned me (I used to not c/r so often like this, after leading the flop, and I'm learning how to intepret the turn 3-bet which seems to occur regularly against me when taking this line)Tell me how you interpret the 3bet?--cm Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted May 21, 2007 Author Share Posted May 21, 2007 Tell me how you interpret the 3bet?--cmQQ or a made flush, occassionally AsAxNow, the flop would have me lower the chance of the flush.But, that's because i'm not playing fd's like that.Given some aggressive players do, it can fit.AsKs, AsJs, fits pf too.QQ of courseAlso, since my flop play could easily fit a fd scenario, I put a bit more on a made flush.The Q makes QQ much less likely and also hurts the chance he bets a flush, so I bet out.A river c/r might have been real filthy - although obv, I lose 2 to the one hand he still could haveHad a non-Q paired, or any card aside from a Q, I'd c/c.I was that close in deciding between QQ or a made flush, that letting him bet seemed to make sense Link to post Share on other sites
RISEorFall 0 Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 I was that close in deciding between QQ or a made flush, that letting him bet seemed to make sensesooo....he either has the one hand that has you crushed and only has one combo as opposed to the several others he could have that you crush likeA K A QxA J A T any combo of KK or AA, especially if they include the A or K of spadesyou have to put in more bets on the river. he loves his hand, he will bet, seems like a good time to c/rwhy do you want to c/r all the other hands youve been posting and not this one? Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted May 22, 2007 Author Share Posted May 22, 2007 sooo....he either has the one hand that has you crushed and only has one combo as opposed to the several others he could have that you crush likeno silly.read.If the Q had not come, I put him on QQ as often as a flush.FLop action was not flush like, as well Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted May 22, 2007 Author Share Posted May 22, 2007 you have to put in more bets on the river. he loves his hand, he will bet, seems like a good time to c/rwhy do you want to c/r all the other hands youve been posting and not this one?he won't love a flush now.he will love QQ obv.I think you're probably right- maybe - close anywayI may have feared a chk thru too much here, although, with my aggression, I think he does chk this a fair amountMaybe, with respect to not c/r'ing, I did consider QQ too much. Link to post Share on other sites
RISEorFall 0 Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 If the Q had not come, I put him on QQ as often as a flush.FLop action was not flush like, as wellthats still flawed. thered be 3 combos for QQ and a ton more for a flush or AA or KKand people dont cap the flop in position for what they think is a free card on the turn? Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted May 22, 2007 Author Share Posted May 22, 2007 thats still flawed. thered be 3 combos for QQ and a ton more for a flush or AA or KKand people dont cap the flop in position for what they think is a free card on the turn?you are correctI don't consider the cap for a free card enough Link to post Share on other sites
RISEorFall 0 Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 you are correctI don't consider the cap for a free card enougheven if you discount the flush, there are more combos of AA or KK than of QQ Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted May 22, 2007 Author Share Posted May 22, 2007 even if you discount the flush, there are more combos of AA or KK than of QQbut the action is more QQ than AA/KK, obv, even counting the AsAx, KsKx Link to post Share on other sites
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