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[Hoop Addict]

In the SB with A9o, 6 handed. Blinds are 2K/4K no antes.

Stacks of those in the hand:

Me (SB) ~125K
UTG - ~95K
Button - ~105K

UTG is a lagtard & min-raises to 8K. Folds to button who flat calls. I bump it to 30K assuming the lagtard is just being that & having seen the button call UTG's raises before & steal pots from him postflop.

UTG flatcalls my raise & button folds.

Flop is K 8 4 rainbow.

How do I proceed? Do I fire at the flop? If so, how much for? I've got about ~95K left behind at this point & UTG has ~65K.

Also - 1) is a squeeze an acceptable play here, considering if I get called I'll be playing it OOP & 2) was 30K the correct amount to squeeze with there?

[gobears]

As played, I'd check/fold here - he flat called your raise with the button to act behind him so he could have a big hand. Other option is to fire out a bet of 1/2 the pot as villain has show the ability to fold when the flop misses him but if he shoves back, you're hating life.

Preflop, the choices are to either fold preflop or raise more preflop as your 30K raise gave UTG better than 2-1 on the call. If you raise to 40K, and he flat calls then it's easier to check fold on that flop as it's much more likely that he has a monster. Of course, then you're putting in 1/3 of your stack OOP to potentially two other players with a fairly weak ace.

Ok after all that, I would fold preflop especially against a lagtard and being OOP for the rest of the hand with a hand that I hate (junky ace).

[litlebullet]

you got yourself in this mess. fire a cont. bet of 20-25k and rep. the king. If he pushes you can think about folding. I'm fine with what you did preflop that's prob. exactly what i woulda done.

[Jdr999]

you got yourself in this mess. fire a cont. bet of 20-25k and rep. the king. If he pushes you can think about folding. I'm fine with what you did preflop that's prob. exactly what i woulda done.

I hate making cont. bets on a flop that are smaller than my pre-flop raise. I check/fold this flop.

[litlebullet]

I hate making cont. bets on a flop that are smaller than my pre-flop raise. I check/fold this flop.

point in case. icky. how about a all-in check raise? lol j/k.
edit: I'm crazy enough to try it.

[Jam-Fly]

Anyone have anything to say for shoving?
If my calculations are right, there is 70k in the pot. If you bet 30k, and he reraises all in. It costs 35k more to call a pot of (70k+30k+30k+35k=) 165k. Can you fold here getting 5-1?

I don't like check-folding flop. It's just too weak. There's no guarentee he has a king.

Also, do you have a read as to what he would reraise/fold with preflop? Would he reraise with AK, KQ, 88, 44, AA?? Would he fold KQ, 88, 44, KJ, K2-KT??

It's a very interesting decision, but I think I would go with the aggressive option and push!
Is this at the final table? Is it short handed? Whats the tournament and buy in? These might influence my decision

[litlebullet]

if your gonna push I think a all-in check-raise is sexier. Conditions like Jam-Fly would help too.

[StupidKid]

if your gonna push I think a all-in check-raise is sexier. Conditions like Jam-Fly would help too.

I strongly disagree, what can villain bet here that wont pot commit him?? I think this is the worst of the options available.

[YBravo]

Yeah, I think Jam-Fly is right on this flop unless the villain has shown a tendency to call with anything. You've invested so much of your stack already, and you're giving UTG the chance to make a terrible fold.

Also, I hate squeezing with A-9 because when you get called you have to play A-9 OOP, and when you get shoved on, you have to fold a lot of the time (although if UTG shoved on you here, you'd have to call based on odds). I'd rather squeeze for value with big hands or squeeze with hands that are unlikely to be dominated like 6-7 suited.

[tskillz187]

Bigger PF raise ~38k. Shove flop.

[silkyjonson]

Bigger PF raise ~38k. Shove flop.

what ts said but folding pre flop is another viable option OOP, but I dont like check/folding too often against a lag tard, you very easily could be pushing him off AQ or a smallish pocket pair and giving up is a little weak.

[vbnautilus]

I think when squeezing you have to choose your victim carefully.... the successfull squeeze relies on the squozen understanding that its not safe to call a big bet with someone still to act behind him. If this guy isn't wise enough to recognize that then squeezing him is not smart.