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#1 Roberts2003

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Posted 15 May 2007 - 05:24 PM

opponent is very loose and donkish.


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MP ($247)
Button ($186.90)
SB ($162.60)
BB ($160)
Hero ($618.20)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K, T.
Hero raises to $12, MP calls $12, 2 folds, BB calls $8.

Flop: ($38) 2, 3, T (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $28, MP raises to $122, BB folds, Hero waits, gets a beer, goes to the bathroom, swears twice, then .....?
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Posted 15 May 2007 - 05:55 PM

whats MP's range like?

donkish player, but does he slow play big hands? call raises with junk? or just straight up chase?

If i had to guess, I'd say J,10 (9,10

If he;s a true donk, maybe even 2,3


I'd say fold, but against a true donkey player, i'd have to imagine he loves J,10 here



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Posted 15 May 2007 - 06:00 PM

i really dont think we can call here

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Posted 15 May 2007 - 06:32 PM

I agree with the above. I lean towards fold.
Snamuh raises to $76.75, and is all in
BigKamp: yyou lose
BigKamp has 15 seconds left to act
BigKamp calls $24.50, and is all in
Seat 1: BigKamp (small blind) mucked [Ad Ac] - a full house, Aces full of Kings
Seat 2: Snamuh (big blind) showed [Kd Kh] and won ($102.50) with four of a kind, Kings
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Posted 15 May 2007 - 06:56 PM

OK, so you double the donk up. you still have it covered. I say call and take the chips back some other time if you lose
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Posted 15 May 2007 - 07:23 PM

I think you can find a better spot to catch him since he's loose and a donkey... tough spot though..

What would be your move if you decided to keep playing? Call or push?

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Posted 15 May 2007 - 08:06 PM

With no reads, fold.

Vs a standard loose donk with 60bb who puts 30bb in the pot on the flop, fold wait for donk to do what he does best.

Vs a loose donk with reads, I say that because it appears you feel you have him, hence why you delayed and went and got a beer. Your gut is telling you call, I think you can consider it, but still think about another spot. It's very odd he left himself 113. Donks usually dont extract value with the goods.

So I conclude, fold, get another beer, mark it down as money on hold, only matter of time.
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Posted 15 May 2007 - 08:35 PM

hahah, i didnt actually go get a beer or any of that. i thought for a while and felt a very very large part of his ranging range here is 10x. and i have 10x raped. I felt there was a 0% chance he had overpair or A10 as he would have reraised for sure preflop. so only 2 hands that beat me are 33 and 22, and i guess 23. but i beat 10Q to like 107, and all pocket pairs in betweeen 33 and 10 10. i ended up raising him all in and he snap called with A7 diamonds and got there on the river. Not the hand I want to see, but im still ahead there and i feel he rarely has me beat in that spot.
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Posted 15 May 2007 - 08:47 PM

before reading...

I'd usually push here. His raise is just too big. I really don't think it's a monster here. Either a draw, or a hand we have crushed, like JT/QT.

He's loose. Get mobnies in.

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Posted 15 May 2007 - 09:00 PM

QUOTE (Roberts2003 @ Tuesday, May 15th, 2007, 9:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hahah, i didnt actually go get a beer or any of that. i thought for a while and felt a very very large part of his ranging range here is 10x. and i have 10x raped. I felt there was a 0% chance he had overpair or A10 as he would have reraised for sure preflop. so only 2 hands that beat me are 33 and 22, and i guess 23. but i beat 10Q to like 107, and all pocket pairs in betweeen 33 and 10 10. i ended up raising him all in and he snap called with A7 diamonds and got there on the river. Not the hand I want to see, but im still ahead there and i feel he rarely has me beat in that spot.


ya, same thought process i had.

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 06:34 AM

QUOTE (Jordan @ Tuesday, May 15th, 2007, 9:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd usually push here. His raise is just too big. I really don't think it's a monster here. Either a draw, or a hand we have crushed, like JT/QT.

I'd lean towards draw more often because of the size of the raise too. GAMBOOL!




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