Jump to content


Qj, Lets Play Along


  • Please log in to reply
36 replies to this topic

#1 Actuary

Actuary

    .

  • Members
  • 19,026 posts

Posted 12 May 2007 - 11:56 AM

rare pf with multiway

PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Preflop: Me is CO with Q, J.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, 1 fold, MP2 calls, 1 fold, Me calls, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (7 SB) 6, 9, T (7 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 folds, Me ?

#2 iowahawk09

iowahawk09

    Poker Forum Groupie

  • Members
  • 743 posts

Posted 12 May 2007 - 12:08 PM

Raise your draws, build the pot, best option here

#3 Zach6668

Zach6668

    2009 Stanley Cup Champions

  • Moderators
  • 36,830 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Thunder Bay, ON

Posted 12 May 2007 - 12:40 PM

Yup, raise it up with 3 players already in. Best case scenario, you fold out a couple higher lone spades, and get a few calls from one pair type hands. You could also clean up some Q/J outs.
QUOTE (serge @ Tuesday, May 12th, 2009, 7:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
LETS GO PITTSBURGH
QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Monday, March 10th, 2008, 4:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Zach is right about pretty much everything.

#4 SCS

SCS

    Poker Forum Veteran

  • Members
  • 1,771 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Folsom, CA

Posted 12 May 2007 - 12:53 PM

Easy raise.

#5 Zach6668

Zach6668

    2009 Stanley Cup Champions

  • Moderators
  • 36,830 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Thunder Bay, ON

Posted 12 May 2007 - 01:11 PM

Free card is a good result too.
QUOTE (serge @ Tuesday, May 12th, 2009, 7:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
LETS GO PITTSBURGH
QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Monday, March 10th, 2008, 4:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Zach is right about pretty much everything.

#6 Frez

Frez

    Poker Forum Veteran

  • Members
  • 1,042 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Sherwood Park, Alberta
  • Favorite Poker Game:HORSE. Home game donkaments

Posted 12 May 2007 - 05:25 PM

Ditto.

Raise for free card, chase out KsQx type hands.
Progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things. (Robert Heinlein).

#7 Actuary

Actuary

    .

  • Members
  • 19,026 posts

Posted 12 May 2007 - 09:49 PM

QUOTE (Actuary @ Saturday, May 12th, 2007, 11:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
rare pf with multiway

PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Preflop: Me is CO with Q, J.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, 1 fold, MP2 calls, 1 fold, Me calls, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (7 SB) 6, 9, T (7 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, 1 fold,...


Me Raises, 2 folds, UTG 3-bets, 2 folds, Me calls


yeah, not sure that worked out so well - but maximized my chances of winning a good size pot at least, fwiw

****

Turn: (7.50 BB) (2 players)
UTG bets, Me ?

#8 Zach6668

Zach6668

    2009 Stanley Cup Champions

  • Moderators
  • 36,830 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Thunder Bay, ON

Posted 12 May 2007 - 09:58 PM

Free card cap the flop baby!

Call the turn, probably call any spade river, and I'd raise if I hit my straight. You could make a case for raising a Q, K, A spade too, btw.
QUOTE (serge @ Tuesday, May 12th, 2009, 7:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
LETS GO PITTSBURGH
QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Monday, March 10th, 2008, 4:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Zach is right about pretty much everything.

#9 Moneyball16

Moneyball16

    Poker Forum Veteran

  • Members
  • 2,746 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Interests:Poker, Baseball, Movies
  • Favorite Poker Game:2-7TD or Holdem

Posted 12 May 2007 - 10:05 PM

QUOTE (Actuary @ Saturday, May 12th, 2007, 11:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Me Raises, 2 folds, UTG 3-bets, 2 folds, Me calls
yeah, not sure that worked out so well - but maximized my chances of winning a good size pot at least, fwiw

****

Turn: (7.50 BB) (2 players)
UTG bets, Me ?


I dont think anyone at micros is gonna fold to a turn raise so calling seems easy. Next!

#10 Actuary

Actuary

    .

  • Members
  • 19,026 posts

Posted 12 May 2007 - 10:06 PM

QUOTE (Moneyball16 @ Saturday, May 12th, 2007, 10:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I dont think anyone at micros is gonna fold to a turn raise so calling seems easy. Next!


But I represented the fd so well on the flop
Now I hit!!!!

#11 Actuary

Actuary

    .

  • Members
  • 19,026 posts

Posted 12 May 2007 - 10:07 PM

QUOTE (Zach6668 @ Saturday, May 12th, 2007, 9:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Free card cap the flop baby!


you keed, right?

#12 Moneyball16

Moneyball16

    Poker Forum Veteran

  • Members
  • 2,746 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Interests:Poker, Baseball, Movies
  • Favorite Poker Game:2-7TD or Holdem

Posted 12 May 2007 - 10:11 PM

QUOTE (Actuary @ Sunday, May 13th, 2007, 12:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But I represented the fd so well on the flop
Now I hit!!!!


I think we have close to zero fold equity though. NEXT!!!!!

#13 Zach6668

Zach6668

    2009 Stanley Cup Champions

  • Moderators
  • 36,830 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Thunder Bay, ON

Posted 12 May 2007 - 10:13 PM

QUOTE (Actuary @ Sunday, May 13th, 2007, 2:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But I represented the fd so well on the flop
Now I hit!!!!

Is this really 50/100 or something? I never trust an unknown to fold. If he calls, you're probably going to have to fire again on the river if you miss too.


QUOTE (Actuary @ Sunday, May 13th, 2007, 2:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
you keed, right?


Meh, depends on my reads on UTG.

Nothing pisses me off more than having someone free card cap me.
QUOTE (serge @ Tuesday, May 12th, 2009, 7:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
LETS GO PITTSBURGH
QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Monday, March 10th, 2008, 4:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Zach is right about pretty much everything.

#14 Actuary

Actuary

    .

  • Members
  • 19,026 posts

Posted 12 May 2007 - 10:21 PM

QUOTE (Zach6668 @ Saturday, May 12th, 2007, 10:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is this really 50/100 or something? I never trust an unknown to fold. If he calls, you're probably going to have to fire again on the river if you miss too.
Meh, depends on my reads on UTG.

Nothing pisses me off more than having someone free card cap me.


But I figured you'd bet the Turn if checked to, so the cap would be for FE
But, I see what you're saying.

********

I'l wait until tomorrow to post the turn action and give some more dorks a chance to opine

(somehow, I'm regressing to 21/11/1.7 SLAPpy!!!. I wouldn't know it w/o seeing it)

#15 antistuff

antistuff

    monotonously monotonous

  • Members
  • 5,466 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:new york city

Posted 12 May 2007 - 11:26 PM

i raise for (thin) equity and maybe a fee card.
QUOTE ( Barry Greenstein)
Successful gamblers are compulsive winners.

#16 Zach6668

Zach6668

    2009 Stanley Cup Champions

  • Moderators
  • 36,830 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Thunder Bay, ON

Posted 12 May 2007 - 11:27 PM

QUOTE (antistuff @ Sunday, May 13th, 2007, 3:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i raise for (thin) equity and maybe a fee card.

You raise the turn?

nm - pretty sure you're referring to the flop
QUOTE (serge @ Tuesday, May 12th, 2009, 7:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
LETS GO PITTSBURGH
QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Monday, March 10th, 2008, 4:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Zach is right about pretty much everything.

#17 antistuff

antistuff

    monotonously monotonous

  • Members
  • 5,466 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:new york city

Posted 12 May 2007 - 11:27 PM

QUOTE (Actuary @ Saturday, May 12th, 2007, 10:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But I represented the fd so well on the flop
Now I hit!!!!


i think this is a little overly optimistic.
QUOTE ( Barry Greenstein)
Successful gamblers are compulsive winners.

#18 antistuff

antistuff

    monotonously monotonous

  • Members
  • 5,466 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:new york city

Posted 12 May 2007 - 11:28 PM

QUOTE (Zach6668 @ Saturday, May 12th, 2007, 11:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You raise the turn?


flop. i reply before i read responses.
QUOTE ( Barry Greenstein)
Successful gamblers are compulsive winners.

#19 Zach6668

Zach6668

    2009 Stanley Cup Champions

  • Moderators
  • 36,830 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Thunder Bay, ON

Posted 12 May 2007 - 11:30 PM

QUOTE (antistuff @ Sunday, May 13th, 2007, 3:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
flop. i reply before i read responses.

Jesus... I figured this out like 2 seconds after I posted, and went to edit it, and you got 2 replies in before me, lol.
QUOTE (serge @ Tuesday, May 12th, 2009, 7:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
LETS GO PITTSBURGH
QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Monday, March 10th, 2008, 4:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Zach is right about pretty much everything.

#20 SCS

SCS

    Poker Forum Veteran

  • Members
  • 1,771 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Folsom, CA

Posted 13 May 2007 - 08:28 AM

I'd be more apt to cap flop if the Q was a spade instead of a heart.

I call turn. I think if you raise you won't fold better hands than you, and hands that may have stuck around to the river that you end up beating will fold. Ace high flush is raising you here, and king high and queen high flushes are calling you down.




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users