NoBBiR 0 Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 No read to speak of really. UTG is a little LAG, but UTG+1 has not done anything out of line or strange to speak of.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)CO ($15)Button ($5.60)SB ($13.15)BB ($15.35)UTG ($3.25)UTG+1 ($7.40)MP1 ($19.95)MP2 ($10.20)Hero ($7.75)Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J, A. UTG calls $0.10, UTG+1 calls $0.10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.3, 3 folds, BB calls $0.20, UTG calls $0.20, UTG+1 calls $0.20.Flop: ($1.25) J, 5, 4(4 players)BB checks, UTG bets $0.25, UTG+1 calls $0.25, Hero raises to $2, BB folds, UTG raises to $2.95, UTG+1 calls $2.70, Hero calls $0.95.Turn: ($10.10) 8(3 players)UTG+1 checks, Hero = ??. It feels with his lack of aggression that he has a flush draw, and possibly a pair. If I go all-in, he'll be getting 3:1+ which would be mathematically wrong for the flush draw, but if he has a pair too he'll almost certainly call because the pot is too big. I feel kind of like the rest of the pot is lost to a set or two pair, but do I shove here to make him pay for his flush knowing he almost certainly will call, or do I just try to get out of this hand cheaply and check? It may look like an easy decision but it has my head spinning a bit. Link to post Share on other sites
SCS 0 Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 With your stack I get it allin here. Link to post Share on other sites
tskillz187 0 Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 Raise bigger PF. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 You should be reraising all in on that flop.Also, 3BBs is a good standard preflop raise for a tourney. In a cash game, sometimes the way the game is playing means that you need to raise 5BBs when you open the pot. Also, it is important to adjust your preflop raising based on the number of players already in the pot. In this case, 3BBs + 1BB for each limper is not a bad rule of thumb. That means you should raise to at least $0.50 preflop. Link to post Share on other sites
NoBBiR 0 Posted May 9, 2007 Author Share Posted May 9, 2007 I should raise 10 bucks after a .25 cent bet? UTG's all-in bet closed action because it was less than my raise. I couldn't have reraised or I would have . But on the turn it's kind of a clash of opinions. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 I should raise 10 bucks after a .25 cent bet? UTG's all-in bet closed action because it was less than my raise. I couldn't have reraised or I would have . But on the turn it's kind of a clash of opinions.You're right, you couldn't reopen betting. I like the bet on the flop. On the turn, your stack is small so just push it in there. You're not folding anyway and neither is he. If he's drawing, he'll pay for it now but not after he misses on the river. Link to post Share on other sites
Snamuh 0 Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 With your stack I get it allin here. Link to post Share on other sites
linkwood 0 Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 No read to speak of really. UTG is a little LAG, but UTG+1 has not done anything out of line or strange to speak of.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)CO ($15)Button ($5.60)SB ($13.15)BB ($15.35)UTG ($3.25)UTG+1 ($7.40)MP1 ($19.95)MP2 ($10.20)Hero ($7.75)Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J, A. UTG calls $0.10, UTG+1 calls $0.10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.3, 3 folds, BB calls $0.20, UTG calls $0.20, UTG+1 calls $0.20.Flop: ($1.25) J, 5, 4(4 players)BB checks, UTG bets $0.25, UTG+1 calls $0.25, Hero raises to $2, BB folds, UTG raises to $2.95, UTG+1 calls $2.70, Hero calls $0.95.Turn: ($10.10) 8(3 players)UTG+1 checks, Hero = ??. It feels with his lack of aggression that he has a flush draw, and possibly a pair. If I go all-in, he'll be getting 3:1+ which would be mathematically wrong for the flush draw, but if he has a pair too he'll almost certainly call because the pot is too big. I feel kind of like the rest of the pot is lost to a set or two pair, but do I shove here to make him pay for his flush knowing he almost certainly will call, or do I just try to get out of this hand cheaply and check? It may look like an easy decision but it has my head spinning a bit.As an aside, I would have raised a little more preflop. After two limpers, only raising 3x the BB makes it two juicy for them to fold any hand they limped with, therefore making it harder to define their hands. Anyways, I would move it in here. You have to protect your hand against his most likely hand, a draw. Link to post Share on other sites
docnuclear 0 Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 I agree with everyone, more PF, shove on turn exactly ofr the reason Acid mentioned, he's calling with one card to come but not if he misses on the river, here you're ahead most of the time Link to post Share on other sites
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