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[subsin]

i was playing with a couple of friends tonight, and mad drama happened. 2 people in front of me that call a raise so im last to act, after the flop, first position says thse words "i put you all-in" looking to the guy next to him, he calls, and i call the all-in with trip 9's, the all-in guy starts yelling that he didnt know i was in the pot and doesnt wana give up his money, eventually after like 10min he throws his chips at me, but like 2min later, someone else says "i put you all-in"(referring to the guy in 2nd position, so technically he was putting that guy all-in, claiming he didnt know i was in the pot, i give the chips back, is saying "i put u all-in" to a player and saying "im all-in" the same thing? did i have the right to keep his chips or was it right for me to give it back to him, juss curious, :roll:

[ddoggphx]

He's a jackass. If he doesn't know what's going on at the table, it isn't your fault.You should have said..you want your chips, rebuy and try and get em back from me.

[Smasharoo]

i give the chips backFukc that.Unless he had a gun, you should have kept the chips and bought tee-shirts saying "I won this sucker's money!" with his picture on them with the winnings.

[subsin]

ddoggphx said:

He's a jackass.  If he doesn't know what's going on at the table, it isn't your fault.You should have said..you want your chips, rebuy and try and get em back from me.

hes one of those jerky types who thinks hes right on everything, sigh....i figured i could bust him later but we got into a huge hand later on and he caught a boat against my flsuh on the river :?

[Vade]

subsin said:

i was playing with a couple of friends tonight, and mad drama happened.  2 people in front of me that call a raise so im last to act, after the flop, first position says thse words  "i put you all-in" looking to the guy next to him, he calls, and i call the all-in with trip 9's, the all-in guy starts yelling that he didnt know i was in the pot and doesnt wana give up his money, eventually after like 10min he throws his chips at me, but like 2min later, someone else says "i put you all-in"(referring to the guy in 2nd position, so technically he was putting that guy all-in, claiming he didnt know i was in the pot, i give the chips back, is saying "i put u all-in" to a player and saying "im all-in" the same thing? did i have the right to keep his chips or was it right for me to give it back to him, juss curious,  :roll:

You won the chips, not your fault idiot didn't realize you were in the handOh, and don't invite that guy to your game next time, if he's gonna throw a fit because he wasn't paying enough attentionThat's worse then whining over a bad beat, whining over your own stupidity...

[KDawgCometh]

subsin said:

ddoggphx said:

He's a jackass.  If he doesn't know what's going on at the table, it isn't your fault.You should have said..you want your chips, rebuy and try and get em back from me.

hes one of those jerky types who thinks hes right on everything, sigh....i figured i could bust him later but we got into a huge hand later on and he caught a boat against my flsuh on the river :?

if he's such a know-it-all then he should've known you were in the hand. Just kick him in the nuts, literally, next time he acts up, that'll put him in his place

[Mr Monkey]

Smasharoo said:

i give the chips backFukc that.Unless he had a gun, you should have kept the chips and bought tee-shirts saying "I won this sucker's money!" with his picture on them with the winnings.

lol. That made me laugh so hard i almost wet myself

[JaysonWeber]

If you direct the all-in towards a player by saying "I'll set you all-in, so I bet whatever you've got left" That's different than saying "I'm all-in" Personally the guy seems like a Phil Hellmuth worshipping jackass.

[woutoR]

grab your chips and put it in his mounth so he cant talk nomore, CHOKE HIM TO DEAD

[Scott3705]

JaysonWeber said:

If you direct the all-in towards a player by saying "I'll set you all-in, so I bet whatever you've got left"  That's different than saying "I'm all-in"  Personally the guy seems like a Phil Hellmuth worshipping jackass.

This is usually the way I use the words "I'll put you all in" in home games. But, I did see a guy at the tropicana in AC held to an all in for all his chips when he was referring to the shorter stack at the table. Can we have a ruling on this from anyone else who knows?

[Love4hockey]

I think if he was putting the player next to you all in then he was betting as much as that player had. So you had the option to fold call or raise that bet. Seems like the most fairest way to play it.

[bampote]

From what I understand, it's not acceptable terminology to say, "I'll put you all-in." At least, I remember on some TV show they made Evelyn Ng say, "I'm all-in" after saying that she'd put someone all-in for it to actually count. Of course, I realize regulations aren't so strict in a home game, but maybe it'd be a good rule to put in place for the future, since this controversy erupted over the issue.

[RISEorFall]

Almost exact same thing happened to me the other night actually. 3-handed, I hit trips on the flop, check, guy on left goes all in, dealer calls, I call. Dealer gets upset saying he thought I was folding and he was playing a joke because he knew he was gonna hit a boat on the river. My boat was bigger, and we made him give up the money. Took him 20 minutes because he kept saying he was "joking" but he said "call" and put his money in, so we made him leave it in.

[JimmyWellington]

You should have pulled out the sock that you put your loose chips in and beat him over the head with it, Fillmaff style. "How's this for a bad beat, asshat!!!"And yeah, don't invite that guy to the game again.

[mcamire]

I always thought if u say"I put that guy all-in" you were essentially betting whatever that person has in front of them.On a side note. One of my buddies said "Im All-in" and I called really quick he said he was just kidding and refused to give me his chips when he saw I had a full house. I was tempted to beat them out of him but it was only a $10 tourney so I didnt think it was worth it.

[BeanGW]

I really don't get all this "I'm just joking cr@p." If he actually had the best hand, do you think he'd say the same thing??? That said, I think the best way to get another player all in is to ask the guy you want to pull all-in for a chip count, and then bet that amount. That way you can also get the bonus of seeing him shake if he's got a crummy hand.But, that said... I suppose sometimes in a home game an exact chip count isn't required. If it is obvious that the player who wants the other to go all in has him covered, he may as well wait until the hand is finished. If the smaller chip stack loses, the winner just takes the cash and doesn't worry about the count. If the smaller stack wins, then you count so that he can be paid out accurately. Of course this is considering no one else needs an earlier accurate count to determine pot odds.If you've got three players, and player one says I put you all-in to player two, and player three is in a later position and has them both beat, then player three must raise the original bettor all-in from the late position in order to pull player one all in. If player three just calls, it absolutely can be argued that he is calling the amount of player two's all-in.If the original bettor isn't paying attention to whom is still in the pot, that's his own fault. I think at some point in our poker lives it's happened at least once to all of us where we forget that someone is still in a pot.

[RISEorFall]

bampote said:

From what I understand, it's not acceptable terminology to say, "I'll put you all-in." At least, I remember on some TV show they made Evelyn Ng say, "I'm all-in" after saying that she'd put someone all-in for it to actually count. Of course, I realize regulations aren't so strict in a home game, but maybe it'd be a good rule to put in place for the future, since this controversy erupted over the issue.

I was watching a tournament the other day and I heard a guy go "I put you...I bet whatever he has left." There was another person in the hand (aside from the guy he was putting all in). He seemed hesitant to say "I put this guy all in." He started to, then stopped and said he bet whatever the other guy had left. THis could be related to this topic...is there some technical rule where if you put someone all in you're technically putting yourself all-in to do so?

[Nutcracker]

Tell him to look at chips and learn to estimate chip stacks.. That skill took me all of about 20 minutes in my first home game.. Then keep all his chips, he's just gonna find something else to whine about. Had a guy like that at our homegame once, we never let him back.

[Emptyeye]

RISEorFall said:

THis could be related to this topic...is there some technical rule where if you put someone all in you're technically putting yourself all-in to do so?

I think the "technical rule" as you put it is that you, as the bettor, cannot technically PUT anyone (Besides yourself, of course) all-in. You can bet enough that the person who calls will end up all-in, but as it's their chips, they haven't actually done anything with them even when you say "I put you all-in"...sounds weird in writing, but do you understand what I'm trying to say?