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[keith crime]

just back from harrah's in indiana - wasn't in the hand but it was maybe the most incredible hand i've ever witnessedsuits don't matter here 5 -10 NL flop A24checked aroundturn A first to act bets 100guy to my left is the only callerriver was irrelevent first to act all in for 350guy to my left calls and I swear he was serious utters the following as he turns over his hand 2 4 I have two pair twos and fourseven more incredible although not necessarily inconceivable first to act mucks his cards I just put my head down and shuddered all over before you guys say he was acting dumb and was some kind of hustler the thing worked out well for mei'd been providing my usual he's nuts persona at the table but this time i made it pretty apparent i had the best hand so far and wanted to make people pay for their drawsi was in the big blind mr 2 4 to my left raises to 25 gets like three callers including me with J5 of heartsflop was J 7 5 with two diamondsi check mr 2 4 bets 25 gets one callerI say "I'm not going to mess around I'm all in for 450"i'm not sure still how smart of a play this was but i figured that was my only way to protect myself - probably stupid to risk 450 to win 100 but oh wellmr 2 4 says i know you have 2 pair ponders for a while and callsI'm figuring obviously Q's K's or J's maybe a flush drawhe turns over pocket 9's wow - if he had hit the 9 i think i may have given up pokerfreaked out over my big win i go for a candy bar return and my buddy tells me i missed a 2000 dollar handguy flopped a wheel with 2 diamonds on board with A 5 (flop 234)he bets 300 guy with K high flush draw calls for his last 150guy with A high flush draw calls the 300mr 2 4 callsturn is no diamond wheel bets again 300 both callriver no diamond wheel again bets 300 which i think was only called by mr 2 4 who turns over A 4 wow lost over 900 dollars with a pair of 4's not trying to be a know it all here just honestly spellbound

[SplashMaster]

keith crime said:

just back from harrah's in indiana - wasn't in the hand but it was maybe the most incredible hand i've ever witnessedsuits don't matter here  5 -10 NL  flop A24checked aroundturn A  first to act bets 100guy to my left is the only callerriver was irrelevent  first to act all in for 350guy to my left calls and I swear he was serious utters the following as he turns over his hand 2 4  I have two pair twos and fourseven more incredible although not necessarily inconceivable first to act mucks his cards  I just put my head down and shuddered all over  before you guys say he was acting dumb and was some kind of hustler the thing worked out well for mei'd been providing my usual he's nuts persona  at the table but this time i made it pretty apparent i had the best hand so far and wanted to make people pay for their drawsi was in the big blind  mr 2 4 to my left raises to 25  gets like three callers including me with J5 of heartsflop was  J 7 5 with two diamondsi check  mr  2 4 bets 25 gets one callerI say "I'm  not going to mess around I'm all in for 450"i'm not sure still how smart of a play this was but i figured that was my only way to protect myself - probably stupid to risk 450 to win 100 but oh wellmr 2 4 says i know you have 2 pair ponders for a while and callsI'm figuring obviously Q's K's or J's maybe a flush drawhe turns over pocket 9's  wow - if he had hit the 9 i think i may have given up pokerfreaked out over my big win i go for a candy bar return and my buddy tells me i missed a 2000 dollar handguy flopped a wheel with 2 diamonds on board with  A 5 (flop 234)he bets 300 guy with K high flush draw calls for his last 150guy with A high flush draw calls the 300mr  2 4 callsturn is no diamond wheel bets again 300 both callriver no diamond wheel again bets 300 which i think was only called by mr 2 4 who turns over A 4  wow lost over 900 dollars with a pair of 4's  not trying to be a know it all here just honestly spellbound

I hope not, since your calling 25.00 raises out of position with J5

[keith crime]

see your point and agree but it was 15 bucks and have to say - really wanted to see any flop with this guy - top pair i would have folded to the 25 dollar bet instantlymy point isn't that i'm a genius but man these guys at harrah's must have way better jobs than me

[jayboogie]

I think you should be concentrating on working on your own game before making fun of these guys that pay you off. Calling with J5 is usually not the best of ideas, especially if you won't be able to bluff him out of a pot later on, it wouldn't have been inconceivable that he had a PP higher than Jacks which would have you in bad shape. His play of course sucks, but yours wasn't too brilliant either.

[akishore]

stop ragging on the OP.he was in the big blind of $10, and it only costs him $15 more to see a flop. when the action got to him, the pot was about $110-$115, and he was getting 7-to-1 or almost 8-to-1. with two suited cards, it's an easy call, more so because it's NL and implied odds are strong.further, a fish had entered the pot, and it's proper poker to loosen up pre-flop when you can outplay someone post-flop.the OP isn't stupid... he's not going to stack off all his chips on a flop of Jxx with only top pair weak kicker. you play rag hands to flop two pair or better, and that's what happened.read daniel's current cardplayer article. NL poker isn't about playing top 10 hands. i suppose daniel must be weak at poker because he's calling raises with Q4s out of position??to the OP, good post.aseem

[jayboogie]

You don't really try to outplay weak opponents that can't let hands go, you wait for hands to bust them with. I would think it's not the greatest idea to play a hand like this in almost every instance, how often are you going to flop 2 pair here or even a flush draw? I would say not often enough to have to call those bets, also your not always getting implied odds to bust somebody with that hand either. It's pretty suspicious looking to have somebody betting out on a flop like that when it looks like no help. Personally, I don't think you even needed to play this hand to bust this player, it was only a matter of time before you'd have his chips with the way this guy played. Why bother calling raises with J5 suited when you can wait for a better spot? If the guy is going to call an all-in when he can't even beat top pair on the board, your going to get paid off eventually. Of course you can say Daniel plays this or that, but do you think any of us are even close to his skill in hand reading ability? I don't think so, just because he plays it doesn't mean you should too. Just because it works for him doesnt mean it'll work for you.

[keith crime]

heh ok i don't even know if i should have played the J5 i'm just amazed the guy called a 350 bet with a board of A24A7 and said I have two pair 2's and 4'soh yeah just remembered he plopped down 45 of diamonds with a board of 3 7 8 j of diamonds x and argued for a bit that he had a straight flush until 4 people informed him that there wasn't a 6 out therenice guy tho