100nl Turn Check

[loxo 0]

My cash game needs some work so I have decided to log a heap of 100NL hands to try and plug some leaks. Like to know if checking this turn gives us the best chance to get all his money.Villian hasn't been here long but has shown some marginal hands down and is losing. Typical loose chasing calling type.Just noticed this conversion doesn't have stacks, (first time I've used it). Anyway Hero has ~$120. Villian~$50-55Poker StarsNo Limit Holdem Ring gameBlinds: $0.50/$19 playersConverterPre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP1 with T♣ T♥ 2 folds, Hero raises to $4, 5 folds, BB calls.Flop: 6♣ 9♦ 6♠ ($8.5, 2 players)BB checks, Hero bets $6, BB calls.Turn: T♠ ($20.5, 2 players)BB checks, Hero checks??

[trystero 0]

Hard to read those suits but I don't see any flush draws on the flop. So I think checking behind here in position is just about standard. Had a FD been out there then we want to charge him for drawing dead because we won't get anything else at the river unless the flush hits. However, you say he's a calling station so we would like to build up a pot so we aren't shoving for his entire stack on the river (which doesn't really even matter; if he has JJ, A6, even A9, he is calling any bet regardless if your read is correct). So bet a little on the turn, hoping to build a sizeable enough pot on the river so shoving isn't overbetting.

[David_Nicoson 1]

Bet the turn. The ten isn't going to be scary for him. Whatever he called with on the turn probably still looks good to the villain.

[dms26 3]

Typical loose chasing calling type.

I'd bet small on the turn, maybe $10. If he has anything at all it sounds like he'll call.

[linkwood 0]

I'd bet small on the turn, maybe $10. If he has anything at all it sounds like he'll call.

QFT. The typical loose chasing calling types are the ones you just play relatively straight forward with. You want to give him a chance to get all his money in there. For all you know he could be "trapping" now with a 6 or 87 and he's dying to get all his money in that pot. Those times he's not he'll pay you off. Against the really terrible calling stations I'll bet hands like this even more aggressively sometimes to make it look like a bluff because people just love to make the big calls on paired boards.

[dms26 3]

Against the really terrible calling stations I'll bet hands like this even more aggressively sometimes to make it look like a bluff because people just love to make the big calls on paired boards.

I'd make a good size bet on the river, but not the turn. I want to give him a chance to catch whatever he is chasing. But yeah, I'm with you on making overbets against a calling station with strong hands.

[throwemaway 0]

I'd make a good size bet on the river, but not the turn. I want to give him a chance to catch whatever he is chasing. But yeah, I'm with you on making overbets against a calling station with strong hands.

I agree with this...If the villain is the type I'm thinking of, he doesn't care that the board is paired..He just says Ok! I have an oesd, I call! But if he is the type of guy who is pretty aggressive, and will make a busted draw bet on the river if he thinks you have whiffed overcards, checking might be good here..If he is the weak/tight calling station type though, I bet the turn because those types typically won't bet a busted draw, so I want him to get more money in when hes still drawing "live"

[Royal_Tour 0]

I actually kinda like the check here.The 10 is your boat. and athough i cant really read those symbols, it looks like a flush draw possibility is out there.You are in position, and want to maximize profit now. what hands do you put villain on, that he will call preflop, and check/call the flopA,6? AK,AQ AJs KQs? A9? JJ,or QQ might smooth call preflop, but would probably lead, or raise this flop.The only hands i see calling a bet, especially a 10 dollar bet on the turn, is any 6, or any flush.I'd rather make my flop bet look like a C-bet, then check the turn to reveal weakness, and hope villain has a small enough piece that will fire and stab at the pot on the river

[Royal_Tour 0]

Bet the turn. The ten isn't going to be scary for him. Whatever he called with on the turn probably still looks good to the villain.

10 dollars at .5/1.00 when your stack is 55 is a lot.I used to play this limit for a year, i've seen lots of weird laydowns, no one takes into consideration they're odds, its simply "do i have a good hand".I think we need to let villain catch something on the river if he hasnt already. there are no good hands out there that would play the way he is playing except for quad 6's. and thats just a cooler.

[Acid_Knight 2]

The only reason to check the turn is if you think he's weak and wants to make a play at you.Reasons to make a small bet on the turn:1. The Ten doesn't look like it would've helped you so if he thought he was ahead, he'll still think he's ahead2. He might be drawing to some kind of straight or maybe even picked up a backdoor spade draw. He will pay for his draw on the turn but not after he misses on the river.3. You make the pot a little bigger so that you can make a 3/4 pot bet on the river and get paid for a bigger amount4. If he's drawing to his hand and hits it, he'll have a bigger pot to fight over and lose5. He could hold a small or medium PP and be putting you on big cards. If a scare card falls on the river, he might not give you anymore money.6. He could've flopped a 6 and been looking to check-raise you on the turn. If you don't bet, he can't c/r you.You have position and the nuts (basically) here so you really should be making sure that every street gets bet, even if they are only small bets. Once the river falls, there is no hope for him to improve his hand so if he was drawing and missed, you won't get more chips. Just make a small bet on the turn then like a 3/4 or pot bet on the river.

[dms26 3]

I'd rather make my flop bet look like a C-bet, then check the turn to reveal weakness, and hope villain has a small enough piece that will fire and stab at the pot on the river

We don't have any reason to think villain will fire, he's a calling station. If he does fire on the river what is going to call a raise with that he wouldn't have called a small bet on the turn with? He'll call a $10 bet with any decent draw, so why not charge him? If he misses I doubt this type of player makes a big bet on the river with a busted draw.I think you are trying to put yourself in villain's shoes, and thinking about what you would have in this situation. He's not trying to put OP on a hand or thinking about how much of his stack he's commiting.

[Snamuh 0]

You say he's a loose, calling chasing type so exploit that on the turn with a bet!

[David_Nicoson 1]

10 dollars at .5/1.00 when your stack is 55 is a lot.

I meant the card ten not the dollar amount, but I don't have a particular quarrel with $10 for a bet.

I used to play this limit for a year, i've seen lots of weird laydowns, no one takes into consideration they're odds, its simply "do i have a good hand".I think we need to let villain catch something on the river if he hasnt already. there are no good hands out there that would play the way he is playing except for quad 6's. and thats just a cooler.

I think it's a rainbow flop ( 6 9 6 ).He could have a 6, a 9, 78, or a pocket pair. Maybe a gut-shot and a three flush like 8 T . If he's calling with a 9 or something like 55, it's because he thinks the hero has unpaired overcards. So, yeah maybe we do convince him that 55 is no good by betting the turn. We're just getting one bet on the river in that case, and then only if the river card looks friendly to him.I really want to stack a 6 here and get two bets out of JJ.

[tripdeuces 0]

I think a change from the norm would be something i read that Mark had posted. Bet the same on the turn that you did on the flop. If he is the loose calling type maybe itll get him to read it as weakness and shove.Regularly i would just continue to bet because unless he has a 9 he isn't folding a 6 or a flush here very often.

[mtdesmoines 2]

The only reason to check the turn is if you think he's weak and wants to make a play at you.Reasons to make a small bet on the turn:1. The Ten doesn't look like it would've helped you so if he thought he was ahead, he'll still think he's ahead2. He might be drawing to some kind of straight or maybe even picked up a backdoor spade draw. He will pay for his draw on the turn but not after he misses on the river.3. You make the pot a little bigger so that you can make a 3/4 pot bet on the river and get paid for a bigger amount4. If he's drawing to his hand and hits it, he'll have a bigger pot to fight over and lose5. He could hold a small or medium PP and be putting you on big cards. If a scare card falls on the river, he might not give you anymore money.6. He could've flopped a 6 and been looking to check-raise you on the turn. If you don't bet, he can't c/r you.You have position and the nuts (basically) here so you really should be making sure that every street gets bet, even if they are only small bets. Once the river falls, there is no hope for him to improve his hand so if he was drawing and missed, you won't get more chips. Just make a small bet on the turn then like a 3/4 or pot bet on the river.

Absolutely I make the small, weak bet here. He's shoving if he hits, and some villains shove if they miss.Actually, I might shove if he checks to me to make it look like a missed draw if the river bricks.

[loxo 0]

I actually kinda like the check here.The 10 is your boat. and athough i cant really read those symbols, it looks like a flush draw possibility is out there.You are in position, and want to maximize profit now. what hands do you put villain on, that he will call preflop, and check/call the flopA,6? AK,AQ AJs KQs? A9? JJ,or QQ might smooth call preflop, but would probably lead, or raise this flop.The only hands i see calling a bet, especially a 10 dollar bet on the turn, is any 6, or any flush.I'd rather make my flop bet look like a C-bet, then check the turn to reveal weakness, and hope villain has a small enough piece that will fire and stab at the pot on the river

That was exactly what I was trying to achieve. Looking back now at this particular player the more I think about it the more I think I've gotta get a bet in on the turn in this spot.Thanks for your help guys, appreciate the input.