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Qq, Facing A Re-raise Preflop


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#1 pokerfan1080

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Posted 30 April 2007 - 05:48 AM

I've seen this re-raise amount alot lately, 3 times the big blind rather than a more aggressive 3 times the raise amount.

Not sure what to think of it. Hand strength doesn't matter either. I've seen it with monsters, down to Akos.

I flat called the re-raise because I didn't think QQ was a hand to re-re-raise, (good, bad?).

Opponent's C-bet on the flop was fishy, slightly overbet the pot. I re-raised a little over min raise hopping he had a smaller pocket pair or overs and thought he might call this rather than a bigger raise. Although, I think getting it all in here is a decent option as well.

He just called my re-raise so he's either slow playing a monster, or I have him beat.

His check on the turn seems to indicate weakness.

What's my play? Push the rest in? Smaller value bet? I don't see a check here, unless we think we might get another bet on the river, but with this much in the pot I don't think we want to let villain get a free card.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($9.60)
MP ($7.75)
CO ($22.30)
Button ($10.75)
SB ($9.60)
BB ($8.10)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, Q.
Hero raises to $0.4, 3 folds, SB raises to $0.7, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.30.

Flop: ($1.50) 3, 7, 8 (2 players)
SB bets $1.6, Hero raises to $3.5, SB calls $1.90.

Turn: ($8.50) 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero ?
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#2 mtdesmoines

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Posted 30 April 2007 - 05:52 AM

QUOTE (pokerfan1080 @ Monday, April 30th, 2007, 5:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've seen this re-raise amount alot lately, 3 times the big blind rather than a more aggressive 3 times the raise amount.

Not sure what to think of it. Hand strength doesn't matter either. I've seen it with monsters, down to Akos.

I flat called the re-raise because I didn't think QQ was a hand to re-re-raise, (good, bad?).

Opponent's C-bet on the flop was fishy, slightly overbet the pot. I re-raised a little over min raise hopping he had a smaller pocket pair or overs and thought he might call this rather than a bigger raise. Although, I think getting it all in here is a decent option as well.

He just called my re-raise so he's either slow playing a monster, or I have him beat.

His check on the turn seems to indicate weakness.

What's my play? Push the rest in? Smaller value bet? I don't see a check here, unless we think we might get another bet on the river, but with this much in the pot I don't think we want to let villain get a free card.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($9.60)
MP ($7.75)
CO ($22.30)
Button ($10.75)
SB ($9.60)
BB ($8.10)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, Q.
Hero raises to $0.4, 3 folds, SB raises to $0.7, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.30.

Flop: ($1.50) 3, 7, 8 (2 players)
SB bets $1.6, Hero raises to $3.5, SB calls $1.90.

Turn: ($8.50) 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero ?


All things considered, I think you have to shove and live with the results here.
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#3 Pot Odds RAC

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Posted 30 April 2007 - 05:54 AM

What beats us...?

A Set... nah, this doesn't feel like a set.

No flushes...

9/10... I just don't see it.

Aces or Kings... again, doesn't feel like the over pair is out there.

Feels most like A/K - nothing on the board that really scares a Villan with Big Slick.

Could be a weak Ace that paired the kicker.

I push.

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Posted 30 April 2007 - 06:27 AM

I think your flop raise commits you to pushing any non-A turn.




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