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#1 whippedspoon

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Posted 15 April 2005 - 12:56 PM

Do major tournaments like the WPT and WSOP require players to divulge who their backers are? I would think that it would be a big conflict of interest if one player was backed by another and they ended up at the same table. Wouldn't it be really easy for one player to dump all their chips to another one?They should probably make players sign a disclosure form or something so they can try to eliminate any possible collusion. Just reading about how players take 5% of someone else or make all kind of odd deals just seems to take the integrity out of the game, even more so than final table deals to split the prize money pool that Daniel seems so adament about.It would really smell if Tiger Woods had 5% of Chris DiMarco's action heading into the playoff in the Masters. It's odd that poker wouldn't want to do something about it.

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Posted 18 April 2005 - 05:11 PM

Im sure people have done this, and there is really no way to stop it almost....some wavier or whatever you suggested will not stop it....this is why Tilt is bad for poker...And i still watched it

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Posted 28 April 2005 - 08:36 AM

The problem is that this is impossible to police but the bottom line is that it is going to be bad for poker long term unless poker players act with a degree of integrity.Having said that there is currently a very nasty aurore surrounding the WPT final at The Bellagio last week where some of the finalists owned cross eprcentages of each other.This has actually been raised elsewhere on the net but my sole comment on this specific matter is;"There were numerous plays at the final which when considered in conjunction with the various cross percentage ownerships of some of the players could lead you to very questionable conclusions and a feeling of wanting to puke."
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Posted 11 July 2006 - 09:18 AM

QUOTE (XXEddie @ Monday, April 18th, 2005, 9:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
whatever you suggested will not stop it

....this is why Tilt is bad for poker
...And i still watched it


I agree. I agree. I wasted my time with that too.

Signing a paper doesn't stop a cheater from cheating- only those with a conscience and some morals. If they're cheating already, making them sign a paper does nothing, but maybe make the people running the games seem like they're doing something to put a stop to it.

That show "Tilt" was so awful, yet I kept watching it. I think it was a collosal waste of my time and everyone else's, but I do think Michael Madsen is a good actor and I ASSumed bubble_duh.gif that since he was in it, it must be good.

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Posted 11 July 2006 - 09:24 AM

QUOTE (HarryDemetriou @ Thursday, April 28th, 2005, 11:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The problem is that this is impossible to police but the bottom line is that it is going to be bad for poker long term unless poker players act with a degree of integrity.

Having said that there is currently a very nasty aurore surrounding the WPT final at The Bellagio last week where some of the finalists owned cross eprcentages of each other.

This has actually been raised elsewhere on the net but my sole comment on this specific matter is;

"There were numerous plays at the final which when considered in conjunction with the various cross percentage ownerships of some of the players could lead you to very questionable conclusions and a feeling of wanting to puke."


Harry, do you know of anything in the works for a PPL (Professional Poker League) where players are required to adhere to rules/regulations and such when participating in tournaments, to prevent collusion. I mean it seems to be that since the poker boom is plateauing a bit and new innovative styles of tournaments and frequency of tournaments is increasing, there might be some interest in having a more formal professional league. Something to try and maintain the integrity of the game. What are your thoughts?

EDIT: Has the WPA really made any advances? I dont see them if this type of collusion is still popping up.
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Posted 11 July 2006 - 11:16 AM

Wasn't it just last year that Hasan Habib and Tuan Le met at a final table, somehow (because I can't recall the specifics) having pieces of each other. It happens, probably a lot more than we know...

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Posted 11 July 2006 - 11:50 AM

wheelontheriver,

you're too new to revive old tired threads.

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