Horrible On Every Street?

[CoranMoran 0]

PokerStars 3/6 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)Preflop: Hero is BB with A, T. UTG calls, 3 folds, SB completes, Hero raises, UTG calls, SB calls.Flop: (6 SB) 9, 8, Q(3 players)SB bets, Hero raises, UTG calls, SB 3-bets, Hero calls, UTG calls.Turn: (7.50 BB) 2(3 players)SB bets, Hero calls, UTG calls.River: (10.50 BB) 2(3 players)SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets, SB folds, Hero calls.Final Pot: 12.50 BB============Was this all just a rediculous spew?Reads: SB was a big LAG.UTG was unknown.Flop:SB would donk-bet with any draw.I really thought there was a good chance I was ahead of him on the flop.And I would love to isolate him with position.With my Gut-Shot & Over, I can't fold.But is raising best?UTG's cold all on the flop sure looked like a draw, right?Turn:Time to dump it probably.SB has bet 3 times.I don't think I'm ahead any more.River:SB folds!But I put UTG on a draw.So how the heck did the pair of dueces help him?Can my Ace high be ahead?Is this river call acceptable?Please advise.--CM

[antistuff 0]

eh.flop ok.turn im not sure about. you have a gutshot and two cards that might be good if they pair up. i think its pretty likely that utg has a flush draw so thats three of your outs that are no good. i estimate your outs around 4-5. if you assume that the small blind will call along on the turn and that you can get at least a bet on the river if you get the best hand its close but i think you can call. river, for the love of god man, fold fold fold.edit: i didnt look at the river correctly. i think you can make a call there.

[Zach6668 513]

I think SB has a flush draw.UTG could be on one as well.I ****ing hate when SB does that on the flop. Grrrrrrrr.Turn is close if your Ace outs are clean.River is interesting. I didn't notice SB fold before I said he was on a flush draw. I think you can get away with a call there, although I think he probably has a pair of Queens. Such a weird river though.I know this might be unreliable, but did he hesitate to bet the river?

[aim786 0]

I don't like the flop raise. Especially since SB is a bigtime LAG, what makes you think he won't bet/3bet and lead turn with a draw? I think calling the flop is better.

[Zach6668 513]

Good point about the LAG bet/3-betting the draw, I see that all the time. Which isn't necessarily bad for us, but it puts us in a tough spot.I do still like a raise though because I'd like to get this HU since we assume SB is on a draw, and we could possibly fold an 8 or a 9 for two cold, which is great, and we can possibly clean up some outs as well. Ace high fares a lot better at showdown HU too.

[CoranMoran 0]

I don't like the flop raise. Especially since SB is a bigtime LAG, what makes you think he won't bet/3bet and lead turn with a draw? I think calling the flop is better.

Do you call the turn?That is where I felt I was wrong.

I know this might be unreliable, but did he hesitate to bet the river?

No, he actually didn't.Which made the whole street quite perplexing.I was folding to a bet from SB without hesitation.When UTG bets the river, I was surprised. But it didn't matter because I was still folding after SB called without hesitation.When UTG bet AND SB folded, it was time to hesitate.--cm

[Zach6668 513]

River was interesting.I don't know how much more we can say on it...Results?

[aim786 0]

What are you suggesting you should do on the turn, fold?

[CoranMoran 0]

What are you suggesting you should do on the turn, fold?

I was finding it hard to defend the turn call.But it doesn't seem that others have a problem with it.

Results?

SB must have missed his draw since he folded.UTG held J 4 for Jack high.My Ace high was good.--cm

[Zach6668 513]

The turn call is marginal at best.

[CoranMoran 0]

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