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[CoranMoran]

PokerStars 3/6 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, T.
UTG calls, 3 folds, SB completes, Hero raises, UTG calls, SB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 9, 8, Q (3 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, UTG calls, SB 3-bets, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 2 (3 players)
SB bets, Hero calls, UTG calls.

River: (10.50 BB) 2 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets, SB folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

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Was this all just a rediculous spew?

Reads:
SB was a big LAG.
UTG was unknown.

Flop:
SB would donk-bet with any draw.
I really thought there was a good chance I was ahead of him on the flop.
And I would love to isolate him with position.

With my Gut-Shot & Over, I can't fold.
But is raising best?

UTG's cold all on the flop sure looked like a draw, right?

Turn:
Time to dump it probably.
SB has bet 3 times.
I don't think I'm ahead any more.

River:
SB folds!

But I put UTG on a draw.
So how the heck did the pair of dueces help him?
Can my Ace high be ahead?
Is this river call acceptable?

Please advise.

--CM

[antistuff]

eh.

flop ok.

turn im not sure about. you have a gutshot and two cards that might be good if they pair up. i think its pretty likely that utg has a flush draw so thats three of your outs that are no good. i estimate your outs around 4-5. if you assume that the small blind will call along on the turn and that you can get at least a bet on the river if you get the best hand its close but i think you can call.

river, for the love of god man, fold fold fold.

edit: i didnt look at the river correctly. i think you can make a call there.

[Zach6668]

I think SB has a flush draw.

UTG could be on one as well.

I ****ing hate when SB does that on the flop. Grrrrrrrr.

Turn is close if your Ace outs are clean.

River is interesting. I didn't notice SB fold before I said he was on a flush draw. I think you can get away with a call there, although I think he probably has a pair of Queens. Such a weird river though.

I know this might be unreliable, but did he hesitate to bet the river?

[aim786]

I don't like the flop raise. Especially since SB is a bigtime LAG, what makes you think he won't bet/3bet and lead turn with a draw? I think calling the flop is better.

[Zach6668]

Good point about the LAG bet/3-betting the draw, I see that all the time. Which isn't necessarily bad for us, but it puts us in a tough spot.

I do still like a raise though because I'd like to get this HU since we assume SB is on a draw, and we could possibly fold an 8 or a 9 for two cold, which is great, and we can possibly clean up some outs as well. Ace high fares a lot better at showdown HU too.

[CoranMoran]

I don't like the flop raise. Especially since SB is a bigtime LAG, what makes you think he won't bet/3bet and lead turn with a draw? I think calling the flop is better.

Do you call the turn?
That is where I felt I was wrong.

I know this might be unreliable, but did he hesitate to bet the river?

No, he actually didn't.
Which made the whole street quite perplexing.

I was folding to a bet from SB without hesitation.
When UTG bets the river, I was surprised. But it didn't matter because I was still folding after SB called without hesitation.
When UTG bet AND SB folded, it was time to hesitate.

--cm

[Zach6668]

River was interesting.

I don't know how much more we can say on it...

Results?

[aim786]

What are you suggesting you should do on the turn, fold?

[CoranMoran]

What are you suggesting you should do on the turn, fold?

I was finding it hard to defend the turn call.

But it doesn't seem that others have a problem with it.

Results?

SB must have missed his draw since he folded.
UTG held J 4 for Jack high.
My Ace high was good.

--cm

[Zach6668]

The turn call is marginal at best.

[CoranMoran]

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