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[benpatt]

Alright guys kinda boring but just looking for a bit of advice, I took some time off, about a month and a half and I was playing just a ton of multis had a few wins nothing huge but now i am looking for something new, I just threw 110 on stars and tried out playing 6 11 dollar sngs just to see if I thought i could make it work. I ended up 51 dollars after all 6 were complete, If i am going to start multi tabling sngs like this what sort of return can i realistically look for?(this first round seems a bit high) What is a good amount of buy ins to keep in my account? And does anyone know some good articles on sit and goes becuase i have been a mtt man for my whole career. thanks

[SilentButDeadly3]

lol bragpostamentsAn ROI higher than 20-25% should be goot if you're multi tabling. You should keep at least 20 buyins but I prefer more conservative and lean toward 40-50. I know many people who have gone bust by the "standard 20 buyin rule" without playing bad. GL, the SNG grind can get tiresome.

[cubsfan44]

SilentButDeadly3, on Tuesday, April 24th, 2007, 10:46 AM, said:

lol bragpostamentsAn ROI higher than 20-25% should be goot if you're multi tabling. You should keep at least 20 buyins but I prefer more conservative and lean toward 40-50. I know many people who have gone bust by the "standard 20 buyin rule" without playing bad. GL, the SNG grind can get tiresome.

QFT sng play is very streaky

[timwakefield]

I agree, the more buy-ins the better. 35%ish is definitely achievable at the lower level sngs ($5-$20).

[potatoman]

I play extremely conservative when it comes to bankrolling sngs. I play with a min. 65 buyins for the level I'm playing at. I do this so that any streak of cold deck/bad luck/and resulting bad play on my part will not have much affect on me emotionally (helps me avoid tilt). It also means I should never go broke. (I've been playing for about 1.5 years and have never come close).I usually play in units of 10, (1-3 at a time), before I'll take a break to go over my results and try to concentrate on any leaks in my game (am I playing too loose, too tight?).Once I finish 100 sngs. I stop and calculate my ROI and my percentage of in the money finishes.I aim for a min. of 50 percent ITM and a ROI of at least 18-20 per cent. I can get ROI up as high as 35 percent and ITM of about 60 per cent. But these figures are at a very low buyin (usually $1-2).I would expect if you are playing at $10-$20, your results maybe slightly lower, depending on your sng experience and the level of play by your opponents.Six sngs is not enough of a sample to know how much success you may have in sngs. I would go for about 200-300.As mentioned eariler, sngs are a grind for some people, more so than cash games. I find my game is best suited to sngs, since I have a tendency to go on tilt in cash games. I actually find the swings to be very small playing sngs.My worst showing in the last four months was going 1/10 with a third place finish. This or something similar will happen to everyone. You will get sucked out on in 80/20 situations, 60/40 situations and have your two pair/str8 run into a rivered flush/ full house at the worst possible moment.I've also gone 7/10 with 6 first place finishes. My avg currently is probably something like 6/10 with a first, three seconds and two thirds.My avg bad run is 4/10 with two seconds and two thirds, which usually means a small lose.The downside of sngs is that when you do run bad, you'll feel like you wasted a lot of time with very little money gained. Money you probably feel you could have won from the donks you're playing if you were all sitting at a cash game. Your actual cash game can suffer a bit too, since sngs and cash game strategy differ a bit.The upside, for me, is a stable ROI with little swing and I find when I do treat myself to a tournament, I play well, especially at the final table or in short handed situations.

[KentuckySlim]

benpatt, on Tuesday, April 24th, 2007, 2:30 PM, said:

Alright guys kinda boring but just looking for a bit of advice, I took some time off, about a month and a half and I was playing just a ton of multis had a few wins nothing huge but now i am looking for something new, I just threw 110 on stars and tried out playing 6 11 dollar sngs just to see if I thought i could make it work. I ended up 51 dollars after all 6 were complete, If i am going to start multi tabling sngs like this what sort of return can i realistically look for?(this first round seems a bit high) What is a good amount of buy ins to keep in my account? And does anyone know some good articles on sit and goes becuase i have been a mtt man for my whole career. thanks

Good luck. I'd rather shoot myself in the face than try to grind it out using sit n gos again...