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#1 WeakLead21

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Posted 22 April 2007 - 11:01 PM

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
9 players
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Pre-flop: (9 players) rpt4690 is MP2 with Q icon_suit_diamond.gif Q icon_suit_spade.gif
2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.5, rpt4690 raises to $1.5, 5 folds, MP1 raises to $3, rpt4690 calls.

Flop: K icon_suit_diamond.gif K icon_suit_club.gif A icon_suit_club.gif ($6.35, 2 players)
MP1 bets $5.35, rpt4690 calls.


Basically just wondering what everyone feels about how to play to a flop bet like that.

Thoughts on preflop are welcome as well of course.

EDIT: The converter messed up somehow, his reraise preflop was up to $2.50, so the flop bet was actually a pot bet...something i felt was important.
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Posted 22 April 2007 - 11:26 PM

With out a sick read, this should be an easy hand for you to let go.

#3 WeakLead21

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Posted 22 April 2007 - 11:42 PM

QUOTE (cwik @ Sunday, April 22nd, 2007, 11:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
With out a sick read, this should be an easy hand for you to let go.



Really?

With him reraising preflop, of course i was afraid of AA / KK / AK before the flop...but who is gonna bet pot when the flop hits them perfectly?

...Sorry im probably giving away the results, but let me rephrase the question. If we put our opponent on a PP, QQ or lower, is the flat call on the flop the best play?
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Posted 23 April 2007 - 12:02 AM

QUOTE (WeakLead21 @ Monday, April 23rd, 2007, 12:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Really?

With him reraising preflop, of course i was afraid of AA / KK / AK before the flop...but who is gonna bet pot when the flop hits them perfectly?

...Sorry im probably giving away the results, but let me rephrase the question. If we put our opponent on a PP, QQ or lower, is the flat call on the flop the best play?


Alright, if you decided your opponent does not have an A or K, or think that you could get him off a weak A (unlikely as how the preflop action went) then is is going to be a much better idea for you to reraise on the flop.

That is, a bet here looks just as scary as it does on the turn. And your still gonna need to put in $12-15 either way. The difference is if your opponent again bets the turn then it is going to be ALOT more expensive for you to take this away. If he checks/folds the turn, you woulda got the same result on the flop, but you gave him a free card to make his flush. I suppose it would be easier to figure out where he is by his action on the turn, but a pot size bet seems like an awfully lot to float. Plus he can easily check/call you on the turn with Ax. I also definitely hate calling all the way down with out a sick read.

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Posted 23 April 2007 - 12:17 AM

QUOTE (cwik @ Monday, April 23rd, 2007, 12:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Alright, if you decided your opponent does not have an A or K, or think that you could get him off a weak A (unlikely as how the preflop action went) then is is going to be a much better idea for you to reraise on the flop.

That is, a bet here looks just as scary as it does on the turn. And your still gonna need to put in $12-15 either way.


Sorry, left out another important point. I started this hand with something like $20...leaving me with almost $12 after the flop call. After the call on the flop I had myself commited all the way...but I didnt wanna push because I thought that a push scares away everything I could beat.
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Posted 23 April 2007 - 01:35 AM

If you're going to showdown with this hand, let him bluff off.
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