Girls Gone Wild (3/6)

[CobaltBlue 662]

Bodog 3/6 NLHE (6-handed)Cobalt $771MP $1381Cobalt is UTG w/ Q Q . MP has been playing somewhat erratically. I'm under the impression that he likes to play me in position in order to take pots away. Following this assumption earlier, I happened to bluff off my stack to him. The story: I raised 55 from CO, he flat-called on the button, I c-bet the flop (Q87 w/ fd), he called. Turn A. I checked, he bet smallish, I check-raised, he called. River K. I pushed...he called with AK. So that's probably going to affect his image of me.Pre-flop:Cobalt raise to $20, MP re-raises to $99, 4 folds, Cobalt callsFlop ($203): 8 7 4 (2 players)Cobalt checks, MP bets $50, Cobalt raises to $230, MP callsTurn ($667): 8 (2 players)Cobalt goes all-in for $442Anyone go different?

[simo_8ball 1]

Something about this screams spew, tbh. He most likely has AA-TT.Preflop is standard. I could re-reraise this to $230 though. I like the call better though.Flop is good. His 1/4 pot bet is odd though. I think it is more likely to be strength trying to induce a bluff than actual weakness.Do you think he would call the flop c/r with TT/JJ? If so, would he call the turn shove? I can't help thinking that this screams of aces.Meh, I probably play this the exact same. I don't like it though. By the turn there is just so much in there that you have to be getting the money in.(This post is quite erratic, but it just shows my confusion)

[linkwood 0]

Bodog 3/6 NLHE (6-handed)Cobalt $771MP $1381Cobalt is UTG w/ Q Q . MP has been playing somewhat erratically. I'm under the impression that he likes to play me in position in order to take pots away. Following this assumption earlier, I happened to bluff off my stack to him. The story: I raised 55 from CO, he flat-called on the button, I c-bet the flop (Q87 w/ fd), he called. Turn A. I checked, he bet smallish, I check-raised, he called. River K. I pushed...he called with AK. So that's probably going to affect his image of me.Pre-flop:Cobalt raise to $20, MP re-raises to $99, 4 folds, Cobalt callsFlop ($203): 8 7 4 (2 players)Cobalt checks, MP bets $50, Cobalt raises to $230, MP callsTurn ($667): 8 (2 players)Cobalt goes all-in for $442Anyone go different?

Any idea of his re-raise range? I know he plays erratically, but is that just post-flop or also pf?

[bdc30 0]

Seems like a spew to me too. Looks an awful lot like AA or KK and neither of them fold here.

[simo_8ball 1]

Seems like a spew to me too. Looks an awful lot like AA or KK and neither of them fold here.

Yeah, I think that. The problem is, preflop is standard, and the flop is good IMO. The only thing left is the turn play. By then we we need to have the best hand 40% of the time, assuming a weaker hand calls the shove.Given how villain probably views us from the 55 hand I could see underpairs being part of his range, because I think he will assume our range is fairly wide, including 99-JJ and a number of diamond draws.I think check/folding the turn is best, but I know I personally would probably shove.

[NEtwowilldo 0]

Where are these girls going wild you speak of?

[simo_8ball 1]

Where are these girls going wild you speak of?

The ladies in his hand. Unless I missed a sw there.

[dms26 3]

Seems like a spew to me too. Looks an awful lot like AA or KK and neither of them fold here.

I don't play this level but isn't a $50 bet into a $200 pot a little odd with AA or KK? Especially with a few draws out there.

[simo_8ball 1]

I don't play this level but isn't a $50 bet into a $200 pot a little odd with AA or KK? Especially with a few draws out there.

The story: I raised 55 from CO, he flat-called on the button, I c-bet the flop (Q87 w/ fd), he called. Turn A. I checked, he bet smallish, I check-raised, he called. River K. I pushed...he called with AK.

Based on this, it looks like someone who leads weak looking for action.

[CobaltBlue 662]

Any idea of his re-raise range? I know he plays erratically, but is that just post-flop or also pf?

He'd re-raised a number of times pre-flop, though he was certainly more fond of the flat call. I've been open-raising pretty frequently (I almost never open-limp). I haven't seen any of his re-raised hands.One thing of note that I was thinking about while in the hand...do you guys really think AA/KK goes 5x the original raise pre-flop here?

[Roberts2003 0]

He'd re-raised a number of times pre-flop, though he was certainly more fond of the flat call. I've been open-raising pretty frequently (I almost never open-limp). I haven't seen any of his re-raised hands.One thing of note that I was thinking about while in the hand...do you guys really think AA/KK goes 5x the original raise pre-flop here?

Cobalt, from the hand you described previously, it looks like this guy doesnt no where the fold button is, so i can see him calling an all in here with 99 to JJ. theres obviously many other hands he could have that have you crushed here, but due to his overly large preflop raise, and his bet call on the flop, i get the feeling he has 10 10 or JJ. if he AA, wouldnt he want to get all on the flop to avoid having to sweat any of the thousand scare cards that can come on the turn?

[Acid_Knight 2]

i get the feeling he has 10 10 or JJ. if he AA, wouldnt he want to get all on the flop to avoid having to sweat any of the thousand scare cards that can come on the turn?

If he has AA he's MORE likely to slowplay becuase there are fewer scare cards. TT and JJ can see overs pop out, but AA cannot.

One thing of note that I was thinking about while in the hand...do you guys really think AA/KK goes 5x the original raise pre-flop here?

Some players are weird.Last Saturday, I played the $330 tourney at Caesar's where you get 7500 chips and 40 minute levels. First hand I play is KK, 15 minutes in. Guy in MP opens for 175, I make it 500 on the button and he bumps it up to $2400. I am not happy becuase I know that I cannot get away from the hand now, but also that it is less likely he has AA. So, I obviously push, he obviously calls, shows AA and I'm out 15 minutes into the tourney. People will do weird things and if it makes you discount that holding for them, then it works out even better.I get the sad feeling that you're likely against AA or KK here. Based on the other hand, he will turn over JJ or TT here sometimes, but I think you're probably losing money doing this in the long run.

[meservery 0]

Last Saturday, I played the $330 tourney at Caesar's where you get 7500 chips and 40 minute levels. First hand I play is KK, 15 minutes in. Guy in MP opens for 175, I make it 500 on the button and he bumps it up to $2400. I am not happy becuase I know that I cannot get away from the hand now, but also that it is less likely he has AA. So, I obviously push, he obviously calls, shows AA and I'm out 15 minutes into the tourney. People will do weird things and if it makes you discount that holding for them, then it works out even better.

Semi HIJACK Alert. I obviously bust here also. Or I spike my king, which I am prone to do. I'm just wondering what was weird about the villian's play of aces here?

[Acid_Knight 2]

I'm just wondering what was weird about the villian's play of aces here?

It's directly related to Cobalt's post where he said that he didn't think that the incriment was right for AA or KK.In the hand I posted, it's VERY odd for someone to reraise to 5x the size of the initial bet. In my case, it wasn't the 3-bet incriment, but he put in the 4th bet and it was almost 5x the size of my 3-bet. Usually, regardless of the hand, the incriment should be about 3x. The hand should've gone more like 175 to 500 to 1600 to 3500 to all in to I FOLD.He's right that reraises usually aren't that big becuase they discourage action. I made the point with my example that sometimes people do weird things.

[meservery 0]

It's directly related to Cobalt's post where he said that he didn't think that the incriment was right for AA or KK.In the hand I posted, it's VERY odd for someone to reraise to 5x the size of the initial bet. In my case, it wasn't the 3-bet incriment, but he put in the 4th bet and it was almost 5x the size of my 3-bet. Usually, regardless of the hand, the incriment should be about 3x. The hand should've gone more like 175 to 500 to 1600 to 3500 to all in to I FOLD.He's right that reraises usually aren't that big becuase they discourage action. I made the point with my example that sometimes people do weird things.

Thanks. Now I understand.

[Acid_Knight 2]

Oh, I just noticed that he raised to $99, and therefore has pocket 9s. You're so golden here!

[CobaltBlue 662]

Well, villain pretty much insta-called my turn push. My immediate reaction was, "Well eff, he's got AA/KK." Nope...he flips 66...and I hold for a $1.4k pot. Guess my earlier image plus his donkishness worked in my favor.

[simo_8ball 1]

It's amazing how much of an effect a single hand can have on your image. That 55 hand obviously affected his perception signficantly.