Odds Of Presidential Election?

[Footballguru 0]

i found on an online sportsbook they were offerign even money bets on presidential election. I mentioned to my roomate (huge democrat regardless) and he offered to bet me @ 2-1 if he gets Dems so I took reps at 2-1 laying 50 to win 100...what do u guys think? What are true odds? It def. looks like the Dems are going to win but my best bet is if Hilary wins primaries that America wont vote for a woman and if Obama wins that America wont vote for a half black/half muslim dude...(not political standpoint, just EV). My other friend said hed also lay me 2-1 for a bigger bet, should I take? Do republicans have a chance

[rgold79 0]

Wake me up in 18 months and I'll let you know.

[Footballguru 0]

Wake me up in 18 months and I'll let you know.

BBFIDTS

[showstopper24 0]

i found on an online sportsbook they were offerign even money bets on presidential election. I mentioned to my roomate (huge democrat regardless) and he offered to bet me @ 2-1 if he gets Dems so I took reps at 2-1 laying 50 to win 100...what do u guys think? What are true odds? It def. looks like the Dems are going to win but my best bet is if Hilary wins primaries that America wont vote for a woman and if Obama wins that America wont vote for a half black/half muslim dude...(not political standpoint, just EV). My other friend said hed also lay me 2-1 for a bigger bet, should I take? Do republicans have a chance

I don't think that most of America will vote for these two type of people, even if they are the better candidates.

[Footballguru 0]

I don't think that most of America will vote for these two type of people, even if they are the better candidates.

thats my thinking and why i took the bet

[Flushgarden 0]

Right now a Republican (Rudy) is leading everybody in the polls. America wont vote for Obama or Hillary because of their bad policy...dont try to wish and hope, its not going to happen.

[keith crime 8]

Dems trading 58 on tradesports seems fairI'd short hillary if she is the nom - i think she's unelectable unless all of bills conquests vote for her

[Footballguru 0]

Dems trading 58 on tradesports seems fairI'd short hillary if she is the nom - i think she's unelectable unless all of bills conquests vote for her

58% is what? like 1.5-1?

[fatman 1]

Dems trading 58 on tradesports seems fairI'd short hillary if she is the nom - i think she's unelectable unless all of bills conquests vote for her

If that happened it would be a blow out like we haven't seen since Reagan won his second term.

[Zeatrix 0]

Help me out here guys. Now if I were an American I'd vote for Obama, no question about that. I personally feel he's a new kind of (American) politician, in a good way, "the real deal", like Oprah put it.But I still don't understand why people hate Hillary so much. Can anyone point me in the right direction? What have she done that makes her unelectable? Ok, so she's the wife or arguably the most successful president you've had, doesn't that count for anything?And that it would be impossible to get a man that just happen to have a gene that gives him darker skin or a woman elected is just scary. Are Americans really THAT narrow minded? You know that would just confirm all my prejudice towards Americans.

[fatman 1]

Help me out here guys. Now if I were an American I'd vote for Obama, no question about that. I personally feel he's a new kind of (American) politician, in a good way, "the real deal", like Oprah put it.But I still don't understand why people hate Hillary so much. Can anyone point me in the right direction? What have she done that makes her unelectable? Ok, so she's the wife or arguably the most successful president you've had, doesn't that count for anything?And that it would be impossible to get a man that just happen to have a gene that gives him darker skin or a woman elected is just scary. Are Americans really THAT narrow minded? You know that would just confirm all my prejudice towards Americans.

Obama has no experience. He hasn't even had a full term as a Senator yet. I want someone with a little government experience.Bill Clinton the most successful president we have had? Are you serious? Ever hear of a guy named Reagan who freed Eastern Europe from the grip of Communism? I don't think Reagan is our most successful but Clinton is not even in the top half. A lot of people in this country just don't like Hilary. I also think that a lot won't vote for her because her husband was President a few years ago. After the Bush's I don't think we will have another political dynasty(whether you like them or not it is a political dynasty IMO) like that for many years to come. I think the majority of Americans will be looking for a new direction from recent presidents.

[Garn 0]

Obama has no experience. He hasn't even had a full term as a Senator yet. I want someone with a little government experience.Bill Clinton the most successful president we have had? Are you serious? Ever hear of a guy named Reagan who freed Eastern Europe from the grip of Communism? I don't think Reagan is our most successful but Clinton is not even in the top half. A lot of people in this country just don't like Hilary. I also think that a lot won't vote for her because her husband was President a few years ago. After the Bush's I don't think we will have another political dynasty(whether you like them or not it is a political dynasty IMO) like that for many years to come. I think the majority of Americans will be looking for a new direction from recent presidents.

Hilary is a socialist. if she ever won I am not sure what I would do. Probably take all my money out of the bank and the market and put it in a shoebox

[Randy Reed 0]

Hilary and Obama are socialists. if she ever won I am not sure what I would do. Probably take all my money out of the bank and the market and put it in a shoebox

FYP

[Flushgarden 0]

And that it would be impossible to get a man that just happen to have a gene that gives him darker skin or a woman elected is just scary. Are Americans really THAT narrow minded? You know that would just confirm all my prejudice towards Americans.

No...I will not vote for him because of his opinions on issues that are important to me. I have supported a black man (Alan Keyes) in each of the last two contested republican primaries. I wish Colon Powell were running this time, I would vote for him in instead of Rudy in a heartbeat.I think the biggest thing Obama has going for him is the fact that he is young and black. Nobody (the average American) really knows anything else about him yet. They just see a fresh face, have heard other people like him but no real specific reasons why, and the feel a little touch of liberal guilt.Hilary is a socialist ***** who will try to implant microchips into peoples brains and control every aspect of our lives...and tax the **** out of us.

[KDawgCometh 2]

Hilary is a socialist. if she ever won I am not sure what I would do. Probably take all my money out of the bank and the market and put it in a shoebox

by saying this, its painfully obvious you have no clue what socialism is and how a socialist votes or goes about things. Hillary is more conservative then her husbandas far how the election is going to turn out, it is way too early to have any clue who teh noms are gonna be. I don't think that any of teh front runners right now are going to be the ones who get the nomination, especially for the dem side where the field is wide open. Polls right now are meaningless. Rarely do early front runners get the nomination

[KDawgCometh 2]

Ever hear of a guy named Reagan who freed Eastern Europe from the grip of Communism?

what!? you aren't serious are you. Reagan had very little to do with the Berlin wall coming down, Tito's downfall, the USSR's downfall, or Ceaucescu's downfall.

Hilary is a socialist ***** who will try to implant microchips into peoples brains and control every aspect of our lives...and tax the **** out of us.

you're levelling us right right

[fatman 1]

what!? you aren't serious are you. Reagan had very little to do with the Berlin wall coming down, Tito's downfall, the USSR's downfall, or Ceaucescu's downfall.

Reagan was the major catalyst for the fall of the Soviet Union. Building up our militay itself was responsible for the USSR going bankrupt. The wall coming down and the downfall of the USSR was a direct result of the policies of the Reagan administration.

[KDawgCometh 2]

Reagan was the major catalyst for the fall of the Soviet Union. Building up our militay itself was responsible for the USSR going bankrupt. The wall coming down and the downfall of the USSR was a direct result of the policies of the Reagan administration.

all of the reasons that set up the USSR's downfall was in place long before Reagan even considered running for office, in fact, Russia/USSR had always been broke and it is the failings of whatever regime was in charge to actually harness the economic possiblities of all of the territories of Russia whether it be the Tsar, the provisional government, or the various leaders of teh communist party. The wall came down almost 18 months before Yeltsin pulled off the coup in 91. When Reagan said, "Mr Gorbachev, bring down this wall" he wasn't saying anything that everyone in germany or all of the NATO countries had been feeling and he is hardly responsible for being the catalyst that instituted the change that happened in Germany or any other former Warsaw Pact nation

[Balloon guy 158]

Take the guy from Law n Order with the points, unless Jeb Bush runs.Dittos on Alan KeyesHillary is a liberal socialist, and socialist are naive. The only reason it works anywhere in the world is because the USofA is protecting everyone from the next Hitler/Stalin/taking over the world despot. Take away the US's military, and other countries would find they do not have enough money for national defense, and would start scrapping socialist programs to pay for the new armies they need.Reagen had more to do with the demise of Russia than anyone else. They were going to fail, but he quickened it, and created a huge economic boom in our country while he did it. He created the way for us to step up and become the lone superpower. without his economic gains, we would not have been able to afford to be the world's police, and unstability would have been problematic.Here is the secret, only known by a few key people in the USA, me being one of them.The political party that has the largest balloon drop at their convention will win the election. been true the last 8 elections, will be true this one.In 2000 both sides did the same number of balloons, that's why it was so close. Last election my buddy did the republican's and it went off without a hitch, the dems hired a company that didn't know squat about big drops, and their's failed, just like Kerry's campaign.Obama is not a muslim, he's a Christian.There, I think I got everything straighten out.Good Luck

[Zeatrix 0]

Hilary is a socialist. if she ever won I am not sure what I would do. Probably take all my money out of the bank and the market and put it in a shoebox

First of, you have no clue what socialism really means. Secondly, socialism is built on capitalism, you are confusing it with communism.

I think the biggest thing Obama has going for him is the fact that he is young and black. Nobody (the average American) really knows anything else about him yet. They just see a fresh face, have heard other people like him but no real specific reasons why, and the feel a little touch of liberal guilt.Hilary is a socialist ***** who will try to implant microchips into peoples brains and control every aspect of our lives...and tax the **** out of us.

Well, Obama clearly stating that he wants to put an end to the crap you call lobbyism would be enough for me. I couldn't stand living in a country where the richest gets their way. Just look at the UIGA as one tiny example. Just look at the debacle with global warming. The oil and energy companies are paying so that the US won't do the right thing, it's despicable.And that last sentacne is just ridiculous. I don't even understand why socialism isn't more popular in the US, since it goes so well with religion. Religion (as far as I can tell) is about being the best person you can be and to help others, do good things. Socialism is about people working together to create a society where everyone has a good standard of living (do good things for each other). Now I'm not a socialist, but I think it's strange that religious people in the states tend to support the ideology of "everyone for themselves" where doing good things isn't the best thing.

[scram 1]

I can not nor will I ever vote for a typical "2007" Democrat because I do not believe that success should be taxed to subsidize failure. I won't simply call such people "liberals" because "liberals" come in many, many different flavors (I definitely consider myself "liberal" in many ways), but the taxation of success as a subsidy for failure is a fairly accurate mantra of the present day Democrat party due to their voting base of constituents. My money is my money. I get it because I bust my *** like a dog and because I'm smarter than other people. It isn't fair, but neither is life. I get my money because I plan, make deeply researched and accurate conclusions on things and sacrifice buying that new Playstation 3 or gold rims for my car in order to boost my equities holdings or emergency savings. I do well because of the decisions I make, that anyone else can make, but Democrats believe that I do well because I'm some sort of an "insider" and as such, I should be taxed to pay for some idiots own stupidity or horribly poor life decisions. Democrats spend way too much time trying to make life "fair" for everyone (including stupid, lazy failures) at the expense of people who do well for themselves based on their own talents, abilities, decision making, drive and/or work ethic. I hate that.Conversely, I am totally disgusted with the "2007" Republican party. The gross domestic overspending, Iraq- mindless, lemming-like support for Bush in his dumb crusades- completely caving on immigration in order to pander to Hispanics who are the closest thing Conservatives have to a minority base. The offshoring of American Jobs is the worst domestic fiscal crisis we've faced since the Civil War. It is no different than CEO's who take control of an old, long-established company and loot it in order to buoy the short term share price. That is what's being done to America, and the ®'s are responsible for it. When the bill comes due and our entire economy is predicated on "service industry" jobs that pay $9 an hour, we will see a system of "elegant decay" start to set in. I am very torn on what to do, as I believe that governmental interference with free markets is the worst possible solution, but something needs to be done (possibly tax breaks for domestic insourcing)I don't know who I am going to vote for- I don't like Obama because I don't want my money to go to pet leftist social programs and I don't think he has the experience to do the job, I don't like Hillary because I've researched her a lot deeper than what you see on the news, and the underbelly of that woman is an ugly, ugly thing. I sort of like McCain, and I don't care for Gulliani that much (who himself is an aggressive Governmentalist- "New York City" mentality)Still, I think the (D)'s will take it down for no other reason than the publics total disgust with the past 8 years of R control- the blown opportunities, the gross missteps, etc. And after 8 years of (D) control, the public will become disgusted with them in the same way, and vote the R's back in.

[scram 1]

Secondly, socialism is built on capitalism, you are confusing it with communism.

Socialism attaches itself to Capitalism much like a parasite attaches itself to a host mammal. Saying "socialism is built on capitalism" is true. Socialism cannot exist without Capitalism as Capitalism is the producer and socialism is the consumer- however, Capitalism can exist just fine without Socialism- matter of fact, Capitalism is a lot healthier the freer it is of the Socialist parasite.

[Garn 0]

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[strategy 4]

Socialism attaches itself to Capitalism much like a parasite attaches itself to a host mammal. Saying "socialism is built on capitalism" is true. Socialism cannot exist without Capitalism as Capitalism is the producer and socialism is the consumer- however, Capitalism can exist just fine without Socialism- matter of fact, Capitalism is a lot healthier the freer it is of the Socialist parasite.

This has got to be a troll... right?

[LongLiveYorke 38]

My money is my money. I get it because I bust my *** like a dog and because I'm smarter than other people. It isn't fair, but neither is life.

Your money is not necessarily your money. You live in this country. You are protected by its army, its police, its firemen. You are profitable because the country as a whole is economically sound. Lots of people make money, the poverty is low, unemployment is low, and so people can afford to buy whatever it is that you sell, or can afford to pay you for whatever it is that you do.In exchange, you owe this country what are called "Taxes." For living here, earning money here, or making purchases here, you have to pay the government. Since they supply the conditions that allow you to live in freedom and live successfully, you need to repay them so that they can continue to do so.Pretty obvious stuff, right?So why do people get so confused when the government taxes them? You wouldn't be making that money in the first place if the government wasn't around. You aren't owed the money because you yourself are such a great indivudual. You may be good at what you do or whatever, but you need the government. And for that, you need to pay taxes.So, the government isn't stealing your money when it charges you taxes. It has a right to take money from you and us it as it sees fit to maintain a level of economic success, freedom, and protection from foreign countries or terrorists that it deems necessary. If you disagree with exactly how the government uses the money that you give it that it has a right to have and would like to argue that other policies would better help the economy, well, that's of course fine. But arguing with the idea of taxes in general and claiming that money that you worked for necessarily belongs to you is incorrect.