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[No_Neck]

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $143.15
UTG+1: $53.80
MP1: $19.50
MP2: $16.50
Hero: $57.60
CO: $53.35
Button: $55.40
SB: $24.25
BB: $21.15

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP3 with 9 Q
UTG raises to $1.5, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, Hero calls, CO folds, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: 4 5 A ($6.75, 4 players)
UTG bets $0.5, MP1 folds, Hero calls, Button folds.

Turn: 9 ($7.75, 2 players)
UTG bets $2, Hero raises to $6.5, UTG raises to $13, Hero calls.

River: 3 ($33.75, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero...


Villian is an over aggressive donkey. tear me apart.

Edit Zach can you change the title to something witty.

[Zach6668]

Edit Zach can you change the title to something witty.

I'm not good at witty, that's what Cobalt is for...

I tried my hardest though

[Zach6668]

Villian is an over aggressive donkey. tear me apart.

If he's also a calling station, I shove the turn, or at least reraise.

On this river, if you were ahead, you're probably still ahead. He would have led with the Kh, I assume.

I make a value bet.

[Acid_Knight]

If he's a super aggro donkey, I'd wager that the river is a bad card for him. I doubt he ever has the 2 or the K of hearts after checking that river. It's more likely he had a set or smaller flush on the turn.

I'm gonna bet $20 on the river and call a shove from him. I just don't think someone that aggressive is gonna go for a check raise with the nuts (or the K high flush) as opposed to leading into you with it on the river. I mean, he 3 bet the turn OOP and is now checking the river. It's MUCH more likely that the river looks like a terrible card for him than it is that it made his hand.

[Naismith]

Why did we slow down on the turn?

I agree with the new poster who posted above me on the river, BTW.

EDIT: If I start a petition to have Zach change his signature or at least make it smaller, will anyone sign it? I'm perfectly willing to cheer against the Penguins if that's what it takes.

[Acid_Knight]

I agree with the new poster who posted above me on the river, BTW.

New nothing. I got the same post count as you do now. This is what a strcutural engineer does with his time at work by the way - contribute witty and insightful advice to his favorite local poker furm.

I'll sign it. I don't even care about hockey, but then again, I'm not from Canada either...

[krup24]

Why did we slow down on the turn?
EDIT: If I start a petition to have Zach change his signature or at least make it smaller, will anyone sign it? I'm perfectly willing to cheer against the Penguins if that's what it takes.

I agree about the turn pump that pot, I don't really know what more we could ask for.

And I would not sign the petition

[Naismith]

New nothing. I got the same post count as you do now. This is what a strcutural engineer does with his time at work by the way - contribute witty and insightful advice to his favorite local poker furm.

Posting a bunch to increase post count = lame.

Here's my witty title for this hand, but only if our boy Neck lost the hand.

"No Neck Cold Deck"

Haha. I kill me.

[No_Neck]

Zach is the awesomest mod ever,


I slowed down on the turn because if the river wasn't a heart he would pot it and then I could push and he has to call.

There were so many hands that he would fold if I reraise him there (maybe I am wrong). If I had a lower flush draw like 56 or something but even if the heart hits I am going to only be behind one card.

[Zach6668]

EDIT: If I start a petition to have Zach change his signature or at least make it smaller, will anyone sign it? I'm perfectly willing to cheer against the Penguins if that's what it takes.

The signature stays until they are eliminated.

End of discussion.

It's not even that big... maybe it's time to get away from your old CRT 480 by 600 resolution...

[dms26]

Villian is an over aggressive donkey. tear me apart.

Then you should be re-raising the turn. Actually the way he played it you should be re-raising anyway. He has to have exactly KXh, when he could be semi-bluffing with only the Kh, have a set or two pair, and possibly overplaying a good ace.


On the river depends on how tricky I think villain is, would he check with the K?

[dms26]

There were so many hands that he would fold if I reraise him there (maybe I am wrong).

How many people 3 bet/fold? I know I don't see it very often.

[fckthis]

Value shove?

[dms26]

Value shove?

on the river? I doubt we get called here by a worse hand very often.

[No_Neck]

How many people 3 bet/fold? I know I don't see it very often.

The problem though is that this Villian there is a 30% chance he has ir here and would have to fold to a big bet.

And he will put a decent amount of his stack in on the river with air, three of a kind, two pair ect. as long as the river card isn't a heart.

But you guys are probably right... maybe I should just shovel

[Naismith]

The problem though is that this Villian there is a 30% chance he has ir here and would have to fold to a big bet.

And he will put a decent amount of his stack in on the river with air, three of a kind, two pair ect. as long as the river card isn't a heart.

But you guys are probably right... maybe I should just shovel

I'm fine with your reasoning. I just wanted to know if there was a reason.

Definitely, if taking this line with air is reasonable for this particular villain, let him hang himself.

And Zach, you called my bluff. I can't root for the Pens' opponent since I'm too lazy to look up who it is. I will say this, though...Go Lightning! (see how small and subtle this is?)

[dms26]

The problem though is that this Villian there is a 30% chance he has ir here and would have to fold to a big bet.

And he will put a decent amount of his stack in on the river with air, three of a kind, two pair ect. as long as the river card isn't a heart.

But you guys are probably right... maybe I should just shovel

I think the 70% of the time he doesn't have air he's paying you off big if you let him before the scare card comes. Or you let him hit cheaply and may end up paying him off big.

...Go Lightning! (see how small and subtle this is?)

QFT, but I don't have much confidence in them getting out of the first round.

[mtdesmoines]

Haha. I kill me.

Alf?

[mtdesmoines]

on the river? I doubt we get called here by a worse hand very often.

This is why the turn matters so much.
Turn Turn Turn.
NL HE is all about the turn.

[Sefaje]

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GO PENGUINS