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[timwakefield]

Playing a little horse, just wondering if it's ridiculous not to 3-bet this PF. My thinking is that I'm OOP vs 4 players, and am basically telegraphing my hand if I raise. If I call though it seems to me that nobody will be worried that I have aces or kings. Obviously the flop plays itself, as did the other streets.




Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2/$4
7 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is BB with A A
UTG folds, UTG+1 raises, MP1 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 9 J 7 (10.5SB, 5 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, MP1 calls, 2 folds, Hero 3-bets, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.

[bobbywithani]

I three bet plenty of hands out of the BB besides Aces, you should too. Not three-betting this is horrible. Who cares even if they do put you on aces, do you really think anyone is folding?

[timwakefield]

I three bet plenty of hands out of the BB besides Aces, you should too. Not three-betting this is horrible. Who cares even if they do put you on aces, do you really think anyone is folding?

No I know they're all calling (which builds the pot nicely), but my thinking is that if I define my hand like that then I might not get action on the flop/turn/river from hands that can't beat queens or kings. But you're probably right, in a multiway pot like that they're gonna play their own hands much more than they consider mine.

[Zach6668]

Tim,

If you enjoy money, then I'd recommend 3-betting here.

Please don't make me explain preflop equity. I'm fairly certain you understand it.

Concealing the strength of your hand is not nearly as important as getting value from it, in fact, I'd say it's probably insignificant.

[timwakefield]

Tim,

If you enjoy money, then I'd recommend 3-betting here.

Please don't make me explain preflop equity. I'm fairly certain you understand it.

Concealing the strength of your hand is not nearly as important as getting value from it, in fact, I'd say it's probably insignificant.

Yeah I'm just retarded at LHE (confirmed). See my post in NLHE also called Aces, OOP for perhaps a more interesting hand.

[antistuff]

the amount you are giving up by not 3 betting preflop when your edge is huge can never be made up for postflop by your hand being disguised.

if you feel that 3 betting there is giving your hand away you arent making it three before the flop often enough.

edit: i think there are certain situations heads up when you might get more by not tossing in that extra bet prefop with aces, multi way this is never the case.

[Zach6668]

edit: i think there are certain situations heads up when you might get more by not tossing in that extra bet prefop with aces, multi way this is never the case.

That's the key, really. A lot of people advocate just calling a 3-bet when we are HU with AA. In that spot, I prefer capping mainly because I cap with lots of hands in that spot (in shorthanded play, anyways), but multiway, this should never be an option.

It's the same as us flopping a set, and betting out and getting raised, if we're HU, we can conceal a bit, but if I get a coldcaller or two, I'm 3-betting all day.

[Actuary]

Tim,

is this a joke?

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As played, I'd like to see a flop c/r by the way

[Zach6668]

Hi Actuary.

[Actuary]

Hi Actuary.

hey there

I'm home with a leaking shower/toliet/drain pipe, unable to log on to the work desktop from remote connection

Go American Home Shield Warranty.

Been here two months, and get a leak?

[fleung22]

deception in 2/4 LHE??

Ram and Jam all the way!

[RISEorFall]

hey there

I'm home with a leaking shower/toliet/drain pipe, unable to log on to the work desktop from remote connection

Go American Home Shield Warranty.

Been here two months, and get a leak?

welcome to go ol' alabama.




you were moving to alabama right?

[Actuary]

welcome to go ol' alabama.
you were moving to alabama right?

yep.

Seriously, Birmingham is great.
As it turns out, I know nothing about plumbing,
$55 later, it was determined the unhooked washing machine faucet small leak had run down the upstairs wall and onto the pantry ceiling below.
The faucet had turned on a tad after being shut for 2 months.
I panicked and stayed at home for 1.5 days "unable to shower".

I'm pretty embarrassed.

[timwakefield]

Tim,

is this a joke?

No, I suck at limit. I've been doing well in my new endeavor of playing NLHE ring though.

[Zach6668]

I find it funny that new people keep coming into this and mocking Timmy.

I may have to sticky this for all the n00bs to come mock you.

[No_Neck]

I find it funny that new people keep coming into this and mocking Timmy.

I may have to sticky this for all the n00bs to come mock you.

I am going to have to second this motion.

[Actuary]

I find it funny that new people keep coming into this and mocking Timmy.

I may have to sticky this for all the n00bs to come mock you.

where?
Are you deleting their posts?

or you mean me?

[Zach6668]

where?
Are you deleting their posts?

or you mean me?

No, I guess I meant you. Dunno, I thought there were more posts in this thread maybe, lol